Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[MarcMaverick]

Don’t forget this from the WHO who I didn’t realise were the World Nature Organisation as well it seems.

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The Cost is far too great.

 

[M Malice]

are you arguing that we should let more people die to get our monies worth ???

All government decisions are about getting re elected and money, that is why we have a Health Budget where they decide what areas receive the funding, it's a cost v benefit assessment. Same as when governments send it's citizens to wars if they assess the collateral damage of soldier death and injury v the reward eg. Oil/territory etc. to be worth the cost re money and lives lost.

I hate to break it to you HD but politicians are not altruistic, the vast majority of them do not give a shit about you, they would happily open everything up if they thought the obedient masses wanted it no matter how many lives it cost.

 

[Bender20]

can you compare deaths of people who died of the vax V people who died of the ronna ?

That is Benders point. All these nursing homes had there 1st dose and deaths rose. If the deaths are rising after 1 dose, the question is why isnt that 1 dose preventing death or why is it having such close proximity to rising death totals?

Either question is a sh*t question to ask from the vaccine perspective which is why I dont think it matters. Lose/lose

My point is why did deaths start to rise by the hundreds per day after vaccination in care homes.
Before vaccines, they were able to stem them.

Blind fckn freddy would see a correlation between the vaccine and covid infections, look at the graph, vaccination started on 8th December when the first grandmother received the Pfizer

Nine care home residents killed in Covid outbreak six days after getting vaccine

NINE care home residents have died after a horrific Covid outbreak – just 10 days after having the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine. The tragic outbreak at the El Salvador care home in Lagartera, S…

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[burge13]

still the covid thread

I thought you were arguing that collateral damage is worth it for your freedoms ?

On a large scale, it is.

How anyone can argue locking down 99.9% of healthy people to try and save the 0.1% ultra vulnerable is beyond me. Take the individualism out of it and think big picture for once

In b4 "what about brazil" or some equally moronic response

 

[BlueE]

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Come on Greg, You keep reassuring the public all of these jabs are safe & effective, So make all of them accountable if something goes wrong.

No they won't take on any indemnity. They'll just deny that the adverse reactions are connected. This Brisbane nurse was told by a specialist her neurological reaction with uncontrolled shaking that started after her injection the injection is stress and not related to the jab.

 

[yebiga]

Don’t forget this from the WHO who I didn’t realise were the World Nature Organisation as well it seems.

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The god forsaken country Tedros escaped from lacks any sewerage system - but Tedros is sure what the global environment needs.

 

[BlueE]

The title of the article is if people get vaccinated santions will be lifted. Not 48 hours ago he was at congress asking to define when these restrictions will be lifted and what needs to be achieved before they are and he failed to answer the question.

In regards to herd immunity etc, is this not a case of setting a unrealistic goal and bitching and moaning when you dont achieve it? If we havnt achieved herd immunity with the flu, why would we here? If the entire world is to get vaccinated by 2024 then its a rather fruitless goal as the mutations will be so rapid its not really something you will have any true control over. I think the concept of herd immunity is more of a political factor to dump and use to control people with restrictions long into the future. The true achievable goal here is to treat the disease as opposed to create a immunity to it. You know? The same medical concepts we use for every single other medical issue we have ever had?

Fauci can't answer when sanctions in the US will be lifted and they want to hold freedoms over people's head until more get jabbed. It's the States that have opened up with cases and deaths have fallen markedly, just like the normal course of a flu, that shows you don't need everyone to be jabbed.

Here in Perth where most has been open since April last year and crowds of 30,000 allowed since July, McClown still says "we have to stop the virus in it's tracks" so you have to get vaccinate. Then when three vaccinated front line workers who escorted a ship captain to hospital and entered a lift 15 minutes after he'd been in there they still have to self isolate for two weeks. Get vaccinated and you will stiff have to self isolate for 2 weeks after overseas travel, but at home!

Herd immunity is not just from SARS CoV 2 and unlikely to come from the injections, because most show antibodies that are gone within 3 months and not memory TCells. It's these that are found from SARS 1, MERS and four other corona viruses to give cross immunity and protection to SARS CoV2. 60% or more of the general population could already have these TCells that give protection even 17 years later.

 

[BlueE]

how when you get a once in 100 year global pandemic with no instructions ?

You dont think Australia did well up until now ?

The vax rollout and reopening will be the next big test

But it's not a one in one hundred year global pandemic. Sweden showed with it's numbers of deaths per million, that it was the same as the 5 years before and less than any other serious flu before it. The analysis also shows even though Sweden didn't lock down, including aged care there was no difference in ages of deaths of anyone under 75 from pervious years.


"With the resources spent/lost on locking down people below 75 years old, I'm sure we could have devised a far superior targeted approach for those who need it and request it. We don't need to demolish our society, economy, and the lives of future generations to save lives."


In terms of Australia it's the same number of deaths as the flu in 2019 and far less (approx 350 deaths less) than the flu in 2017. People in those year had protection from the flu vaccine as well!

Think AZ has already started been given to everyone again in NSW, not sure about Vic, and the only test is whether Australian's will fall for getting an experimental injection that isn't going to protect them from getting or passing on COVID, so what will be used to persuade.

 

[yebiga]

I must say, there has been some high quality posting on this thread during the last 24 hours.
Mind you, I think it's healthy the thread allows the odd dumb poster to have their chance. I think we need to think of the dumb, uniformed and otherwise challenged. For far too long, the dumb have been ignored, they are the voiceless victims of society. There are no books written about their plight and certainly no University courses. And no quota to correct the imbalance. They are under-represented in every desirable career. Thank god for the internet.
They get a chance to be appreciated for themselves and oh boy! how impressive are they?

 

[yebiga]

But it's not a one in one hundred year global pandemic. Sweden showed with it's numbers of deaths per 100 million, that it was the same as the 5 years before and less than any other serious flu before it. The analysis also shows even though Sweden didn't lock down, including aged care there was no difference in ages of deaths of anyone under 75 from pervious years.

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"With the resources spent/lost on locking down people below 75 years old, I'm sure we could have devised a far superior targeted approach for those who need it and request it. We don't need to demolish our society, economy, and the lives of future generations to save lives."

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In terms of Australia it's the same number of deaths as the flu in 2019 and far less (approx 350 deaths less) than the flu in 2017. People in those year had protection from the flu vaccine as well!

Think AZ has already started been given to everyone again in NSW, not sure about Vic, and the only test is whether Australian's will fall for getting an experimental injection that isn't going to protect them from getting or passing on COVID, so what will be used to persuade.

Now BluE, what the hell do you think you are doing? There are mentally disadvantaged posters who might read this post. You are totally excluding them with this haughty display of consistent logic and rational thinking. It's a shame you feel the need to laud your mental privilege at the expense of so many who suffer. Don't you be asking for sympathy, when you cause another bout of tantrums.

 

[BlueE]

All government decisions are about getting re elected and money, that is why we have a Health Budget where they decide what areas receive the funding, it's a cost v benefit assessment. Same as when governments send it's citizens to wars if they assess the collateral damage of soldier death and injury v the reward eg. Oil/territory etc. to be worth the cost re money and lives lost.

I hate to break it to you HD but politicians are not altruistic, the vast majority of them do not give a sh*t about you, they would happily open everything up if they thought the obedient masses wanted it no matter how many lives it cost.

Image if they listened to the real experts not influenced by big pharma and gave HCQ or IVM +Zn, VitD and concentrated on increasing activity, being in the sunshine, and a coordinated plan to reduce obesity!

 

[BlueE]

Now BluE, what the hell do you think you are doing? There are mentally disadvantaged posters who might read this post. You are totally excluding them with this haughty display of consistent logic and rational thinking. It's a shame you feel the need to laud your mental privilege at the expense of so many who suffer. Don't you be asking for sympathy, when you cause another bout of tantrums.

Don't worry I've posted similar many times, doesn't sink in and it's the decision makers who are bought and sold that need to listen and change. Poor Craig Kelly seems on his own there. His speeches in parliament have been excellent and obviously written by people high up in the medical profession but can't speak out.

 

[BlueE]

Fauci is an absolute power hungry knob, a horrid man.

IS DR. FAUCI ABOUT TO BE EXPOSED? WaPo Columnist Says Wuhan Lab Investigation Would Expose Dr. Fauci, US Taxpayer Funding of CCP BioLabs (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

For months, since May 2020, The Gateway Pundit has been reporting on Dr.

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[Bender20]

Image if they listened to the real experts not influenced by big pharma and gave HCQ or IVM +Zn, VitD and concentrated on increasing activity, being in the sunshine, and a coordinated plan to reduce obesity!

I believe Pfizer have 4 more drugs being developed, one is similar to Ivermectin.
Again they will get emergency approval, the belief is the 15 billion they will make from the Covid 19 jab fades into insignificance, to what they will make off of these 4.

What you describe above costs little and makes sense, but the sheep believe the more you spend the better it must be.

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

 

[BlueE]

Meanwhile in California


And Perth

WA set to make COVID-19 vaccination mandatory for hotel quarantine workers as two out of five resist the jab

The WA Government plans to make the COVID-19 vaccination mandatory for hotel quarantine workers in Western Australia, despite Premier Mark McGowan conceding it was not his preference.

www.abc.net.au

 

[BlueE]

Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time analysis of all 113 studies

Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time analysis of all 113 studies

c19ivermectin.com

 

[Crankitup]

"The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemasks as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death."

Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis - PMC

Many countries across the globe utilized medical and non-medical facemasks as non-pharmaceutical intervention for reducing the transmission and infectivity of coronavirus disease-2019 (COVID-19). Although, scientific evidence supporting facemasks’ ...

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[Crankitup]

" Interestingly, 99% of the detected cases with SARS-CoV-2 are asymptomatic or have mild condition, which contradicts with the virus name (severe acute respiratory syndrome-coronavirus-2) [4]. Although infection fatality rate (number of death cases divided by number of reported cases) initially seems quite high 0.029 (2.9%) [4], this overestimation related to limited number of COVID-19 tests performed which biases towards higher rates. Given the fact that asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times higher than the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate is considerably less than 1% [5]. This was confirmed by the head of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases from US stating, “the overall clinical consequences of COVID-19 are similar to those of severe seasonal influenza” [5], having a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1% [5], [6], [7], [8]. In addition, data from hospitalized patients with COVID-19 and general public indicate that the majority of deaths were among older and chronically ill individuals, supporting the possibility that the virus may exacerbates existing conditions but rarely causes death by itself [9], [10]. "

Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis - PMC

Many countries across the globe utilized medical and non-medical facemasks as non-pharmaceutical intervention for reducing the transmission and infectivity of coronavirus disease-2019 (COVID-19). Although, scientific evidence supporting facemasks’ ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[giggler99]

These pro lockdown politicians will never be forgiven or forgotten they have scared so many people some who may never recover. The audacity to just casually walk in to one of these busines’s they tried to destroy as if nothing has happened. Karma is gonna hit them real hard real soon and not just at the ballet box.

 

[Crankitup]

These pro lockdown politicians will never be forgiven or forgotten they have scared so many people some who may never recover. The audacity to just casually walk in to one of these busines’s they tried to destroy as if nothing has happened. Karma is gonna hit them real hard real soon and not just at the ballet box.

The conversation they had outside beforehand is available below.

Labour Leader Thrown Out of Bath Pub, Criticized for Pandemic Regulations

Labour Party Leader Keir Starmer was thrown out of a pub in Bath, England, on April 19 after an angry landlord confronted him over COVID-19 regulations.Reporter Stephen Sumner filmed this footage of the landlord, named as Rod Humphris, confronting Starmer on Queen Street outside of The Raven...

uk.news.yahoo.com

In a confrontation witnessed by reporters, Mr Humphris said the average age of a Covid death was 82 years and 3 months, adding: "We have f***** our economy because old people are dying."

Keir Starmer trolls critics with voting reminder after he's kicked out of a pub

Labour's leader fooled those who'd hoped for an explanation - instead reminding millions to register to vote before the local elections deadline of midnight tonight

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[The Dice Man]

You can be perfectly healthy but you aint going anywhere without your healthpass.

EU health pass: People can ‘start thinking about Europe summer travel’

The European Commissioner said that the EU was still on track to introduce a digital health pass by mid-to late-June; it comes as support for the plan is high in France

www.connexionfrance.com

 

[Bender20]

One uncomfortable truth is that surging COVID-19 cases promote new variants that threaten the very vaccine programs that are meant to be the world’s exit strategy. Without simultaneously adopting both widespread vaccination and public health suppression, COVID-19 will not be defeated by anyone.

The longer we delay doing this, the longer COVID-19 will dominate the world’s health and economic status.

Professor Mike Toole is an epidemiologist at the Burnet Institute. Professor Brendan Crabb is the director of the Burnet Institute.

Brazil was at 3% vaccinated when the variation popped up, how is your theory going to work.
Everyone get a needle and ready, set, go.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Is it me or is it a bit weird to focus on defeating a creation but never speak or talk about preventing another creation?

If you think this is zoonotic disease born about from poor agricultural practice then surely the first thing you do is tackle the issue to prevent Covid21 from happening by fixing the systems which caused Covid19

My question to Hawk Dork and co is why are you afraid of this, but not the next one in the chain? Obvious answer is obvious here by the way

 

[yebiga]

On a large scale, it is.

How anyone can argue locking down 99.9% of healthy people to try and save the 0.1% ultra vulnerable is beyond me. Take the individualism out of it and think big picture for once

In b4 "what about brazil" or some equally moronic response

But the case count - haven’t you heard the reports?