Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Do you reckon the body found on the Vanuatu shoreline that was deemed to have Covid will go down as a drowning death or a Covid death?

Definetly Covid I think.

 

[burge13]

1 positive test is lead story worthy. We're more scared now as a collective than 6 months ago. This shouldn't even be a footnote let alone broadcast at the top of our main 'news' site (i know it's not really news but it's our biggest one).



Pathetic but gaurantee it gets a million clicks so it isn't stopping anytime soon

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

1 positive test is lead story worthy. We're more scared now as a collective than 6 months ago. This shouldn't even be a footnote let alone broadcast at the top of our main 'news' site (i know it's not really news but it's our biggest one).

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Pathetic but gaurantee it gets a million clicks so it isn't stopping anytime soon

Mark McGowan is going to force anyone who is of NZ heritage to self isolate for 14 days. I can feel it

 

[burge13]

Mark McGowan is going to force anyone who is of NZ heritage to self isolate for 14 days. I can feel it

Someone has a cold, possibly without symptoms, and travel to that entire country is at risk...

Mental illness

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Someone has a cold, possibly without symptoms, and travel to that entire country is at risk...

Mental illness

Welcome to 2021 where its easier to create a fake problem and solve a problem that doesnt exist then solve ones that do (ie. critical nurse shortages and bed shortages in the W.A health system which saw emergency depts shut down recently)

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

As Burge mentioned a couple of posts above this.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

 

[Fwoy]

 

[Fwoy]

 

[BlueE]

A throwback to Moderna in 2017 when it ran into safety problems with a therapeutic that never proved safe enough to test in humans, so they turned towards vaccine with their mRNA technology.

Lavishly funded Moderna hits safety problems in bold bid to revolutionize medicine

Moderna Therapeutics, the most highly valued private company in biotech, has run into troubling safety problems with its most ambitious therapy, STAT found.

www.statnews.com

His presentation instead focused on four vaccines that the company is moving through the first phase of clinical trials: two target strains of influenza, a third is for Zika virus, and the fourth remains a secret. Bancel clicked through graphs of data from animal studies before hurrying on to tout Moderna’s balance sheet and discuss the company’s cancer vaccines, slated for clinical testing later this year.

But mRNA is a tricky technology. Several major pharmaceutical companies have tried and abandoned the idea, struggling to get mRNA into cells without triggering nasty side effects.

Bancel has repeatedly promised that Moderna’s new therapies will change the world, but the company has refused to publish any data on its mRNA vehicles, sparking skepticism from some scientists and a hiding from the editors of Nature.

The company did disclose a new technology on Monday that it says will more safely deliver mRNA and discussed another called V1GL.

But in neither case has the company provided any details. And that lack of specificity has inevitably raised questions.

The three former employees and collaborators said they believe N1GL and V1GL are either very recent discoveries, just in the earliest stages of testing — or else new names slapped on technologies Moderna has owned for years.

“[The technology] would have to be a miraculous, Hail Mary sort of save for them to get to where they need to be on their timelines,” one former employee said. “Either [Bancel] is extremely confident that it’s going to work, or he’s getting kind of jittery that with a lack of progress he needs to put something out there.”

A bug in the software
Bancel, a first-time biotech CEO, has dismissed questions about Moderna’s potential. He describes mRNA as a simple way to develop treatments for scores of ailments. As he told STAT over the summer, “mRNA is like software: You can just turn the crank and get a lot of products going into development.”

It seems clear, however, that the software has run into bugs.

In order to protect mRNA molecules from the body’s natural defenses, drug developers must wrap them in a protective casing. For Moderna, that meant putting its Crigler-Najjar therapy in nanoparticles made of lipids. And for its chemists, those nanoparticles created a daunting challenge: Dose too little, and you don’t get enough enzyme to affect the disease; dose too much, and the drug is too toxic for patients.

From the start, Moderna’s scientists knew that using mRNA to spur protein production would be a tough task, so they scoured the medical literature for diseases that might be treated with just small amounts of additional protein.

“And that list of diseases is very, very short,” said the former employee who described Bancel as needing a Hail Mary.

Crigler-Najjar was the lowest-hanging fruit.

Yet Moderna could not make its therapy work, former employees and collaborators said.

Beyond the four vaccines, it has one early-stage clinical trial targeting cardiac disease, launched just last month by partner AstraZeneca. The treatment involves a one-time dose and doesn’t use the tricky nanoparticle casing.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

Funny to think I read in a separate thread a while back on this climate bullshit, The Chief was defending this puppet Greta, But if anyone dare to question the scientific narrative, Well you know how Chief is with these sensitive world issues or anything science related, We're absolute nutcases if when don't trust the science behind anything the media or televisions tell us to.

Hey Greta, I'm more than happy to donate my covid jab to you if you're truly deeply concerned for our wellbeing.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Most of my office had the vaccine earlier as it opened up to anybody over 40. Had a look at the vaccination rates out of interest. Only 1.5M or so doses given in Australia. Was surprised it was that low initially but things seem mostly back to normal and cases are virtually non-existent. I imagine people are feeling good about things. My parents are pushing 70 and don't seem in any rush.

 

[Cuzz09]

No one even talking about it in my circles. A non event really.



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[Lebbo73]

and the alternative is ??...Brazil ?

You have to be a special kind of stupid to believe the Brazil propaganda.

 

[burge13]

You have to be a special kind of stupid to believe the Brazil propaganda.

Even more stupid to not add the context of our differing lifestyles, healthcare systems, and population/population density. He's a moron in every sense

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Most of my office had the vaccine earlier as it opened up to anybody over 40. Had a look at the vaccination rates out of interest. Only 1.5M or so doses given in Australia. Was surprised it was that low initially but things seem mostly back to normal and cases are virtually non-existent. I imagine people are feeling good about things. My parents are pushing 70 and don't seem in any rush.

Questions for you


1. How many people will keep backing up year after year or do you think there will be a massive drop off in 2022 and beyond ?
2. How many think it's the magic potion and will cure all illness' ?
3. And most importantly and this is the big one for me, how many of you have been told how long it will protect you for ?

 

[Catfish Alley]

Questions for you


1. How many people will keep backing up year after year or do you think there will be a massive drop off in 2022 and beyond ?
2. How many think it's the magic potion and will cure all illness' ?
3. And most importantly and this is the big one for me, how many of you have been told how long it will protect you for ?

1. I imagine it would be very similar to the flu shot. Not sure exactly what the uptake of that is.

2. Very little. People aren’t going to start changing behaviour anytime soon.

3. Was told to expect it to be like the flu shot. New variants requiring a change to vaccines yearly.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

1. I imagine it would be very similar to the flu shot. Not sure exactly what the uptake of that is.

2. Very little. People aren’t going to start changing behaviour anytime soon.

3. Was told to expect it to be like the flu shot. New variants requiring a change to vaccines yearly.

New variants are already happening so what exactly are you now vaccined against which is why the flu shot is virtually useless because that is for the previous years strain and not the one that is present which leaves people confused as to why they still get sick.

You will always be a year behind which is why vaccines for yearly virus' IMO are useless, 2020's covid strain has come and gone and we are now onto 2021's strain.

 

[Catfish Alley]

New variants are already happening so what exactly are you now vaccined against which is why the flu shot is virtually useless because that is for the previous years strain and not the one that is present which leaves people confused as to why they still get sick.

You will always be a year behind which is why vaccines for yearly virus' IMO are useless, 2020's covid strain has come and gone and we are now onto 2021's strain.

No worries. Everyone gets to make the choice. Personally I believe it made sense for me. I get the flu shot too understanding it’s never 100% effective.

 

[M Malice]

> https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid...-high-risk-planes/FXR42ITOBP4HKSAXT7LYH2A3GM/

A newly identified Covid-positive border worker was cleaning a plane from a "high-risk" country and was fully vaccinated, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has revealed.

Despite this, she said the vaccine was "working as intended … it's doing its job".

She told reporters this afternoon that the Pfizer vaccines used in New Zealand was "95 per cent effective at reducing symptomatic onset of Covid-19".

Getting the vaccine does not mean people won't get Covid-19, she said.

 

[Catfish Alley]

95% would be better than the flu shot I believe.

 

[burge13]

If it was as good as they claim they'd commit to ending restrictions... yet they won't

Even after everyone is vaxxed there's no guarantee borders will open, no guarantee masks will be gone (applies more overseas than here tbf), no guarantee of returning to 2019 life. Saddest of all is the sheep and eternally fearful will actually say "we can't go back to 2019 life because of this new threat".

Media has melted the minds of the people..

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

No worries. Everyone gets to make the choice. Personally I believe it made sense for me. I get the flu shot too understanding it’s never 100% effective.

What a load of crap that is.

Everyone does not get to make the choice is what 99% of this thread is about. Most people in AU or NZ at the moment are being told you can either have the vaccine or lose your job and your livelihood. Where is the "no worries, everyone gets to make the choice" in that example?

The whole situation we have at the moment is about not having a true equal choice. Once you create outliers, liberties gained or lost, political pressure and inherent dangers then its not a No worries, everyone gets to make a choice situation anymore

Do not adjudicate a situation only on its impact on yourself. Its not a great mantra to live by really.

 

[Catfish Alley]

What a load of crap that is.

Everyone does not get to make the choice is what 99% of this thread is about. Most people in AU or NZ at the moment are being told you can either have the vaccine or lose your job and your livelihood.

I haven’t heard this on news or from family so could definitely be ignorant on what’s happening over there. News I’m seeing is the biggest crowd post-Covid is about to happen in Melbourne and that Covid is near non-existent.