Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #2: Lockdowns

[Fwoy]

Never in medical history has an annual virus completely disappeared only to be replaced by another one with exactly the same symptoms and declared to be a pandemic.

one for the 80s kids...

 

[Bender20]

Very disturbing, I honestly never thought I'd see the day where people would gloat about receiving a f.cking jab.

I think the bandaid with vaccine written under it says it all, bandaid measure.
Or
She gets 2 donuts for that performance.
Or
We can put her, and the dorky kid who sings DrFauci thankyou for the vaccines, in a singing battle.

FMD

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Never in medical history has an annual virus completely disappeared only to be replaced by another one with exactly the same symptoms and declared to be a pandemic.

Pretty sure the "flu" which no doubt you are referring to is not at all like this:

How does coronavirus kill? Clinicians trace a ferocious rampage through the body, from brain to toes

The lungs are ground zero for COVID-19, but blood clots may play a surprisingly big role in severe illness

www.sciencemag.org

 

[Fwoy]

 

[Spitty_the_alpaca]

 

[Catfish Alley]

Isn’t the mask stuff over with in Australia now? Didn’t look like the 75,000 at the MCG had them on. Buckley was even shaking elderly people hands. Was jealous!

 

[giggler99]

Isn’t the mask stuff over with in Australia now? Didn’t look like the 75,000 at the MCG had them on. Buckley was even shaking elderly people hands. Was jealous!

Masks are mandatory in W.A atm Will need to wear them at the Derby on Sunday!
Most states are still in a state of emergency mode so mask mandates can be implemented at anytime if/when cases show up!

 

[BlueE]

read my post again - it’s got nothing to do with the veracity of the test.

I screen shot what you replied to which, was PCR can't tell you anything about viruses capable of infecting cells or viruses that are already neutralised by the immune system and therefore can not be used to tell if someone is contagious or harmless to any other person.

You said "the PCR would be fine, notwithstanding this problem ( because there’s no alternative technology for mass screening) if we had a Pandemic according to the authors definition. But because this is not a Pandemic according to his definition, then the test is a problem."

Hard to understand what you were actually saying and while the PCR test is not fine, I agreed this is not a Pandemic and the test is the problem.

 

[No SPIN]

I screen shot what you replied to which, was PCR can't tell you anything about viruses capable of infecting cells or viruses that are already neutralised by the immune system and therefore can not be used to tell if someone is contagious or harmless to any other person.

You said "the PCR would be fine, notwithstanding this problem ( because there’s no alternative technology for mass screening) if we had a Pandemic according to the authors definition. But because this is not a Pandemic according to his definition, then the test is a problem."

Hard to understand what you were actually saying and while the PCR test is not fine, I agreed this is not a Pandemic and the test is the problem.

I’ll make it crystal clear - if the author genuinely agreed we had a Pandemic he would be advocating the PCR test, because there is no alternative for mass screening.
And therefore under those circumstances, the shortcoming of the PCR test would be inconsequential.

But he’s a critic today, because he doesn’t agree there’s a Pandemic.

 

[BlueE]

sorry sport - I’m not guessing.
If a terminal Cancer Patients dies due to pneumonia, the cause of death is listed as pneumonia, not Cancer. Cancer is listed as underlying disease.

In time you’ll see this first hand, as I have.

And again I repeat - if there is conspiracy- then when we’re Doctors told to stop listing COVID as the cause of death in Aust. given we’ve had one death in six months?

So you are peddling misinformation, there is no directive to misclassify deaths from other causes, as COVID deaths.

But why should we be surprised you’ve peddled misinformation falsely claiming graphs show something they don’t, per my rebuttal.
Insisted mRNA Vaccines cause permanent genetic change which I again debunked.
So why should we be surprised you’re at it again.

I'm talking about COVID-19 death classifications and not a cancer patient that has pneumonia.

I've never said Dr's were told to stop listing COVID-19 as the cause of death in Australia as I showed with the 2020 ABS causes of death numbers that it's possible with the aged care home deaths that many more were attributed to COIVD -19, rather than other respiratory causes as ordered by WHO and seen in the huge decreases in deaths from those causes.

In Australia, f we don't have any positive tests of COVID-19, then there won't be any deaths from COVID -19.

Again you've rebutted nothing except in your own head and have to make claims up about what I've said and about what the research shows. Many Dr are calling the COVID injections gene therapy, which you say you've totally rebutted but have not studies on the COIVD -19 injections to show how.

I say while it's unknown if permanent DNA changes will take place, because animal testing was never compiled or reported and human trials are not due to be reported on for another 2 years, it possible with mRNA injections and especially with adenovector DNA insertions as the published paper I linked showed and you should very well know has been experimented for at least the last 25 years.

 

[No SPIN]

I'm talking about COVID-19 death classifications and not a cancer patient that has pneumonia.

I've never said Dr's were told to stop listing COVID-19 as the cause of death in Australia as I showed with the 2020 ABS causes of death numbers that it's possible with the aged care home deaths that many more were attributed to COIVD -19, rather than other respiratory causes as ordered by WHO and seen in the huge decreases in deaths from those causes.

In Australia, f we don't have any positive tests of COVID-19, then there won't be any deaths from COVID -19.

Again you've rebutted nothing except in your own head and have to make claims up about what I've said and about what the research shows. Many Dr are calling the COVID injections gene therapy, which you say you've totally rebutted but have not studies on the COIVD -19 injections to show how.

I say while it's unknown if permanent DNA changes will take place, because animal testing was never compiled or reported and human trials are not due to be reported on for another 2 years, it possible with mRNA injections and especially with adenovector DNA insertions as the published paper I linked showed and you should very well know has been experimented for at least the last 25 years.

You are wrong - the Adenovirus paper you linked dismissed permanent genetic changes in the first 2 paragraphs and you went back into your box - so don’t start the same BS again.
And you insisted mRNA Vaccine also caused permanent genetic changes which at least you now accept has no basis in fact.
So again you start another digression, saying some people are calling the Vaccine Gene Therapy - but you know its hyperbole and completely unrelated to Permanent Genetic changes. Otherwise you would have provided their evidence.

So now I have you back tracking on the death certificates, and the illusion you are trying to create that Dr’s have been to misclassify deaths as due to COVID, so that too is also debunked.

 

[BlueE]

You are wrong - the Adenovirus paper you linked dismissed permanent genetic changes in the first 2 paragraphs and you went back into your box - so don’t start the same BS again.
And you insisted mRNA Vaccine also caused permanent genetic changes which at least you now accept has no basis in fact.
So again you start another digression, saying some people are calling the Vaccine Gene Therapy - but you know its hyperbole and completely unrelated to Permanent Genetic changes. Otherwise you would have provided their evidence.

So now I have you back tracking on the death certificates, and the illusion you are trying to create that Dr’s have been to misclassify deaths as due to COVID, so that too is also debunked.

They hoped they were temporary and seemed to be, but again this is unknown for COVID -19 until comprehensive long term studies are completed and reported on.

They started the mice pregnancy studies but decided not to report on them and only said the trials were ongoing. Why was that? Many hundreds or thousands of mice could have been reported on in a year of studies and at least a preliminary report presented, but instead all we can say is that's it's unknown if COVID -19 injections affect fertility as one example.

You're the one continually banging on about how you've definitely proved COVID -19 injections are not gene therapy, so as I've said before take it up with the doctors and researchers calling it that.

 

[BlueE]

Masks are mandatory in W.A atm Will need to wear them at the Derby on Sunday!
Most states are still in a state of emergency mode so mask mandates can be implemented at anytime if/when cases show up!

Not complaining that the Weagles boos will be muzzled tomorrow. It will be interesting if everyone keeps them on, they could all keep drinking beer and keep them off?

The emperor lost all credibility when he declared a lockdown, masks and business closed, but allowed 9 hours for hundreds of thousands of people to drive north and south out of Perth to escape for 3 days. If there really was a threat of a contagious virus infecting people he just allowed it to spread over the rest of WA.

But there was no reason for the lockdown as despite this infected person visiting many places around Perth in 5 days only the person he was staying with and one other person tested +ve for COVID. All the man's close contacts had already been found and isolated before the lockdown and for the third time now we're being fed fear pr0n BS about deadly, contagious virus.

 

[Joey JoJo Shabad]

 

[No SPIN]

They hoped they were temporary and seemed to be, but again this is unknown for COVID -19 until comprehensive long term studies are completed and reported on.

They started the mice pregnancy studies but decided not to report on them and only said the trials were ongoing. Why was that? Many hundreds or thousands of mice could have been reported on in a year of studies and at least a preliminary report presented, but instead all we can say is that's it's unknown if COVID -19 injections affect fertility as one example.

You're the one continually banging on about how you've definitely proved COVID -19 injections are not gene therapy, so as I've said before take it up with the doctors and researchers calling it that.

I take it up with you because you’re the the making the bogus claims. If these researchers had the evidence then you would have no hesitation to use it as support.

Therefore there is no evidence.

Just to remind you of a past discussion- Permanent Gene Therapy is not possible without CRISPR or similar editing enzyme.

 

[Hawk Dork]

When is the world going to be told that obesity makes people extremely vulnerable to covid? It’s cruel but statistics on body types of fatalities would be an interesting read.

Whats the answer sugar tax, fast food tax ?

 

[BlueE]

Pretty sure the "flu" which no doubt you are referring to is not at all like this:

How does coronavirus kill? Clinicians trace a ferocious rampage through the body, from brain to toes

The lungs are ground zero for COVID-19, but blood clots may play a surprisingly big role in severe illness

www.sciencemag.org

It's not the flu, but it's interesting how the flu, and deaths from flu has almost disappeared at the same time COVID-19 has appeared. In the US thousands of COVID +ve samples were retested and influenza found in all of them, so there could be misdiagnoses. But it could be related to being no, or very few flu injections given in 2020.

The sciencemag report on how the virus attacks cells around the body, in the approx 5% of patients who become serious ill, makes it very important to treat early with safe and effective therapeutics in the initial viral stage.

They say "How the virus attacks the heart and blood vessels is a mystery, but dozens of preprints and papers attest that such damage is common." Research on the affects of SARS CoV 2 on the lungs, there are many that suggest the damage and blood clots could be caused by the spike protein.

This could be a problem if the same spike protein was replicated in the COIVD injections.

SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alone may cause lung damage

Using a newly developed mouse model of acute lung injury, researchers found that exposure to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alone was enough to induce COVID-19-like symptoms including severe inflammation of the lungs.

medicalxpress.com

Those with acute kidney injury (AKI), were more than five times as likely to die as COVID-19 patients without it, the same Chinese preprint reported.

But kidney injury may also be collateral damage. Ventilators boost the risk of kidney damage, as do antiviral compounds including remdesivir, which is being deployed experimentally in COVID-19 patients. Cytokine storms also can dramatically reduce blood flow to the kidney, causing often-fatal damage. And pre-existing diseases like diabetes can increase the chances of kidney injury.

Recent Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) data on hospitalized patients in 14 U.S. states found that about one-third had chronic lung disease—but nearly as many had diabetes, and half had pre-existing high blood pressure.

Mangalmurti, a pulmonary specialist at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania (HUP) says she has been “shocked by the fact that we don’t have a huge number of asthmatics” or patients with other respiratory diseases in HUP’s ICU. “It’s very striking to us that risk factors seem to be vascular: diabetes, obesity, age, hypertension.”

Exposure to Spike Protein of Coronavirus May Alone Cause Lung Damage: Study | The Weather Channel

SARS-CoV-2 is covered in tiny spike proteins, which bind with receptors on our cell and thus initiates a process that allows the virus to release its genetic material into a healthy cell. - Articles from The Weather Channel | weather.com

weather.com

Coronavirus spike proteins may evolve to evade human immune system

A study has revealed that some coronaviruses -- the family of viruses which includes the one causing coronavirus -- can evolve.

www.thehealthsite.com

Covid-19 may enter your brain and cause inflammation

A new study published in the journal Nature Neuroscience suggested that Covid-19 may enter brain. Here’s what you need to know.

www.thehealthsite.com

 

[BlueE]

I take it up with you because you’re the the making the bogus claims. If these researchers had the evidence then you would have no hesitation to use it as support.

Therefore there is no evidence.

Just to remind you of a past discussion- Permanent Gene Therapy is not possible without CRISPR or similar editing enzyme.

What bogus claim? It's unknown if there is temporary or permanent changes to DNA because comprehensive animal studies either have not been done or reported on.

What animal studies have you done to prove your repeated claim that there it is definitely not gene therapy. You'll have to argue with Bill Gates who described his own Moderna mRNA as "injections of genetically modified substances".

I quoted Gates and you've been reminded many times that CRISPR is not the only gene therapy and you've failed to mention over 25 years study and human deaths associate with adenovector DNA gene therapy, the same as some of the COVID injections.

 

[M Malice]

Whats the answer sugar tax, fast food tax ?

The answer for the obese mouth breathers is to not sit in front of Netflix picking lint out of your navel while gorging on doritos and guzzling coke... get up move around and take responsibility for your own health and stop being a self inflicted leach on the health system.

 

[BlueE]

Whats the answer sugar tax, fast food tax ?

How about something positive, instead of negative?

I think Australia and other western countries that have problems with obesity, type 2 diabetes and other lifestyle disease had a perfect opportunity and blew it by doing the opposite of what they should have to decrease COVID risks.

Image focusing on encouraging exercise and healthy eating by subsidising gym or personal trainer memberships and goals, weight loss groups and mentors, workplace challenges to increasing steps to climb Everest etc and education and promoting healthy eating, portions and rewards for achieving goals.

 

[BlueE]

The answer for the obese mouth breathers is to not sit in front of Netflix picking lint out of your navel while gorging on doritos and guzzling coke... get up move around and take responsibility for your own health and stop being a self inflicted leach on the health system.

But that's what they were paid to do!

 

[Registered User]

The Orange County Coroner's office is investigating the death of a woman who died just days after she received her second dose of the Moderna vaccine.

OC woman's death after vaccination spurs concern from family

The Orange County Coroner's office is investigating the death of a woman who died just days after she received her second dose of the Moderna vaccine.

news.yahoo.com

 

[M Malice]

How about something positive, instead of negative?

I think Australia and other western countries that have problems with obesity, type 2 diabetes and other lifestyle disease had a perfect opportunity and blew it by doing the opposite of what they should have to decrease COVID risks.

Image focusing on encouraging exercise and healthy eating by subsidising gym or personal trainer memberships and goals, weight loss groups and mentors, workplace challenges to increasing steps to climb Everest etc and education and promoting healthy eating, portions and rewards for achieving goals.

Absolutely fantastic post Blue.

 

[No SPIN]

What bogus claim? It's unknown if there is temporary or permanent changes to DNA because comprehensive animal studies either have not been done or reported on.

What animal studies have you done to prove your repeated claim that there it is definitely not gene therapy. You'll have to argue with Bill Gates who described his own Moderna mRNA as "injections of genetically modified substances".

I quoted Gates and you've been reminded many times that CRISPR is not the only gene therapy and you've failed to mention over 25 years study and human deaths associate with adenovector DNA gene therapy, the same as some of the COVID injections.

Bogus claims because I asked you for any evidence confirming your INSISTENCE mRNA Vaccines cause permanent genetic changes - you came up with NOTHING.
I made it clear how genetic therapy works and that mRNA Vaccines are not capable of same.
So I’ve proven you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Now you want to shift into “genetically modified substance” as if I’m going to allow you to move onto another digression.
It’s over - NO PERMANENT GENETIC changes are possible with mRNA Vaccines.
You’ve been exposed.

And then your BS graphs the other day - you must think we are fools.
Laughable that you try these absurd tactics - or maybe you’re just unsophisticated, and the onset of Winter, or Increased testing didn’t occur to you as the true reason for case increases, and not the start of the JAB.

Then today with the rubbish about COVID deaths being inflated - again debunked.

And finally you go back to Adenovirus when your own research paper said permanent genetic change is NOT possible.


You are a broken record of fake claims and misinformation.

 

[Hawk Dork]

How about something positive, instead of negative?

Could use the revenue raised to offer gastric banding, gym membership, reduce the costs of healthy food or fund local sports