Cover Albums

[dooda]

I'm getting so sick and tired of cover albums to get a quick buck. It is atrocious. Human Nature are the worst culprits making them shoddy Motown Records. Guy Sebastian making a collection of his "favourite" songs, some of which he wouldn't have heard till he recorded them. David Campbell. the son of a rock legend puts out a album full of shit covers. David Campbell is the only one I feel sorry for because he actually has a bit of talent. Sure, Guy Sebastian one Australian Idol, but seriously I could win Australian Idol its not that ****ing hard. Not to mention ****ing Tina Arena who ditched Australia to live with them sHiTkickers in France. How does the **** of a thing that is Tina Arena thank us. By putting out a bunch of covers that were shit the first time you heard them. Sorry about the rant but I had to get it off my chest. Ill probably get carded but hoo cares.


*You got the last bit right*

 

[Burningleviathan]

I quite liked nick Cave & the Bad Seeds Kicking against the pricks album. Metallica's original Garage Days was good. There is a few out there. I can understand how some people use it for cynical purposes though.

 

[Kochie 16]

Yep I agree I can't stand all these new bands doing cover song coause they just ruin the song!

 

[ChrisL#12]

I agree. It's more of a trend that the hack or washed up Australian artists do it though. All too often I see Marcia Hines, Tina Arena, Human Nature etc. bringing out these pathetic excuses for recordings. Put some effort in you bunch of tools!

 

[John]

The education system has a lot to answer for.

 

[John]

I quite liked nick Cave & the Bad Seeds Kicking against the pricks album. Metallica's original Garage Days was good. There is a few out there. I can understand how some people use it for cynical purposes though.

I liked Caves album as well. I have no issue with covers albums at all.
Are covers albums no less cynical than the............ what word am I looking for?..."Hip" "cool" artists that have untold greatest hits repacked that the public at large purchase to the detriment of the independent/new artist?

Lets have a look at the present Big Footy band of the moment Led Zeppelin. At last count according to allmusic they had 22 of these repackaged compilation style releases. This in comparison to only 8 official releases and 2 live albums. So how the hell did their record companies Atlantic, Swan Song etc and Led Zeppelin themselves justify this blatant rip off of their fans? The answer lies in the fact ultimately there is money to be made and the record companies without a hint of complaint from the artist will bleed the gullible punter dry for every last cent. The OP has the bad manners to complain about a few covers albums by artists he/she does not like, not in a very literate manner I might add, but would not bat an eyelid in handing over his/her hard earned pocket money mummy and daddy gave for cleaning out the Budgies cage, to line the already bulging pockets of Robert Plant etc. I find this the height of gullibility.

 

[W.Bulldogs_Aus_WC06]

gotta laugh at marcia hines doing it

 

[DizzyHB]

On the upside, Wednesday 13 is getting a tribute album.

 

[Virgil]

That ****

Takes one to know one . Human Nature and Guy Sebastian have been a lot more successful than you are giving them credit for (though you may be too young to remember Human Nature's success, they were at the top of the charts for what seemed an eternity).

 

[dooda]

Takes one to know one . Human Nature and Guy Sebastian have been a lot more successful than you are giving them credit for (though you may be too young to remember Human Nature's success, they were at the top of the charts for what seemed an eternity).

Can you honestly say that Human Nature written a song of their own. Once you can say that they have, then you come back and tell me.

 

[Virgil]

Can you honestly say that Human Nature written a song of their own. Once you can say that they have, then you come back and tell me.

No, they probably haven't. That wasn't the point. The point was that they were very successful in the early-mid 90s with original songs. Whether or not they wrote them hasn't got anything to do with cover albums or the amount of success they had.

 

[dooda]

No, they probably haven't. That wasn't the point. The point was that they were very successful in the early-mid 90s with original songs. Whether or not they wrote them hasn't got anything to do with cover albums or the amount of success they had.

Matters too, if i had me own songwriter, spiked my hair up a bit, learnt to sing, i could be succcesful too, at least i wouldn't resort to doing shitty Motown Records

 

[Virgil]

Matters too, if i had me own songwriter, spiked my hair up a bit, learnt to sing, i could be succcesful too, at least i wouldn't resort to doing shitty Motown Records

OK, we seem to be on the same wavelength here, so I'll stop arguing my point here. Firstly, I never said the record was any good. I really wouldn't know, I haven't listened to it (and I doubt you will have either). I was merely pointing out that Human Nature have been very successful commercially, which you seem to have agreed with me on (bolded quote).

On topic, as somebody else said, cover albums don't have to be bad. I quite liked Garage, Inc (Sabbra Cadabra is awesome, and I never would have heard it if Metallica didn't cover it ).

 

[P.A.F.C]

I lost any remaining respect for Human Nature and David Campbell when they released a second cover album of similar songs. Clearly just doing it for the money now, they are nothing more than glorified cover artists.

From what i've heard, Guy Sebastian's work seems to be a mile ahead of where Campbell and Human Nature are at.

 

[dooda]

I lost any remaining respect for Human Nature and David Campbell when they released a second cover album of similar songs. Clearly just doing it for the money now, they are nothing more than glorified cover artists.

From what i've heard, Guy Sebastian's work seems to be a mile ahead of where Campbell and Human Nature are at.

Finally, a bit of common sense, this is what i'm getting at. These artists are trying to make a quick dollar instead of doing it for the music.

PS: Human Nature are deplorable

 

[John]

Finally, a bit of common sense, this is what i'm getting at. These artists are trying to make a quick dollar instead of doing it for the music.

PS: Human Nature are deplorable

Common sense? I have yet to read one piece of common sense from your very immature postings. Have you ever thought that they may actually enjoy the music that they are playing even if you, and I for that matter, do not like the style, genre etc. Quick dollars hey! I have already referred to the hypocrisy of that accusation by non thinkers such as your self. But I will give it one more shot. Read it and weep some of the musical hero's that have made a quick dollar by ripping of their gullible fans by releasing compilations. According to allmusic ....
The Beatles. 103. Compare that to the official releases and that is a staggering figure.
The Rolling Stones. 73
U2. 23
Your mentioned band of commercial virtue Metallica. 12. They have 10 official releases.

What are you on about when it comes to money. Gene Simmonds from Kiss, one of the biggest bands in the history of music admits that everything is the big dollar. Take The Beta Band for example. They announced that they had split after 3 IMO very good albums because of a complete lack of commercial success. That means lack of dollars. Get it!!! Back to the hundrum world of being a worker. Bet they wish they had the looks etc to sing and dance like the boy bands. Think of the money and the fact that they would never have to stand on a production line.
As to artists covering other artists, there is this ridiculous thinking in contemporary music that this makes the individual artists irrelevant, or was that deplorable? Why? Was Frank Sinatra deplorable because he made a career doing cover? One of the favs of my youth was CCS who had 3 or 4 covers albums out. Tell Alexis Korner he has no credibility. I think not.

I could go on but the question now is do you get the point? I suspect not.

As to Human Nature being deplorable. Have you been listening to their music? You seem to be an expert. Are you actually wasting your life by listening to things that you don't like? Why would you do that? Do you have a form of aural self mutilation?

As to homosexuality it has been around since the dawn of time. Get over it.

Pity that you got a red as I would have loved to have read your illiterate reply.

 

[dooda]

where was i before i was rudely carded.... hmmm guy sebastian has no talent

 

[nicky]

I liked Caves album as well. I have no issue with covers albums at all.
Are covers albums no less cynical than the............ what word am I looking for?..."Hip" "cool" artists that have untold greatest hits repacked that the public at large purchase to the detriment of the independent/new artist?

Lets have a look at the present Big Footy band of the moment Led Zeppelin. At last count according to allmusic they had 22 of these repackaged compilation style releases. This in comparison to only 8 official releases and 2 live albums. So how the hell did their record companies Atlantic, Swan Song etc and Led Zeppelin themselves justify this blatant rip off of their fans? The answer lies in the fact ultimately there is money to be made and the record companies without a hint of complaint from the artist will bleed the gullible punter dry for every last cent. The OP has the bad manners to complain about a few covers albums by artists he/she does not like, not in a very literate manner I might add, but would not bat an eyelid in handing over his/her hard earned pocket money mummy and daddy gave for cleaning out the Budgies cage, to line the already bulging pockets of Robert Plant etc. I find this the height of gullibility.

LOL what an amazing point and it's good to see a band like zepplin get their right wack amongst the overrated love they seem to get from this board. Please add kiss, the beatles and the rollingstones to this list. Not to mention oasis.

Anyway here are some examples of good covers
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[Monkster]

As to artists covering other artists, there is this ridiculous thinking in contemporary music that this makes the individual artists irrelevant, or was that deplorable? Why? Was Frank Sinatra deplorable because he made a career doing cover? One of the favs of my youth was CCS who had 3 or 4 covers albums out. Tell Alexis Korner he has no credibility. I think not.

The best thing I've ever read on the music board.

Hell Elvis ("The King") made a career out of covering other peoples song.

 

[Jabso]

Welcome to reality. This is all 99% of the pop artists are nowadays (and for a long time) anyway. They go through Australian Idol singing other peoples songs, then they get given a bunch of songs from a music producer and/or just play some of their favorite songs.

Cover versions are only good if the artists gives a new perspective on the songs rather than just playing/singing the songs as they've always sounded. Even if they ruin it in trying to make it a bit different at least they've done something with it.

 

[John]

where was i before i was rudely carded.... hmmm guy sebastian has no talent

After your semi literate OP you accuse others of not having talent? The irony!

 

[Cleavy]

Cover versions are only good if the artists gives a new perspective on the songs rather than just playing/singing the songs as they've always sounded. Even if they ruin it in trying to make it a bit different at least they've done something with it.

Personally, I'd rather them just cover it normally, rather than ruin it.

 

[John]

Welcome to reality. This is all 99% of the pop artists are nowadays (and for a long time) anyway. They go through Australian Idol singing other peoples songs, then they get given a bunch of songs from a music producer and/or just play some of their favorite songs.

I'm intrigued! Where do you get a figure of 99% from?

Also do you watch Australian Idol and if so why?

Cover versions are only good if the artists gives a new perspective on the songs rather than just playing/singing the songs as they've always sounded. Even if they ruin it in trying to make it a bit different at least they've done something with it.

I sort of agree? I do not have an issue with individual songs being covered close to the original though it does depend as to why. I do think though that the best covers are those that head in different directions.

 

[judd2carlton]

LOL what an amazing point and it's good to see a band like zepplin get their right wack amongst the overrated love they seem to get from this board. Please add kiss, the beatles and the rollingstones to this list. Not to mention oasis.

Kiss are as bad as batshit. But Nicky, let me ask you this, have you even ever heard a Beatles song, or an Oasis song? You go on and on about all these unknown artists greatness and never take a moment to actually listen to these very good musicians. You are a fool Nicky.

 

[John]

Kiss are as bad as batshit. But Nicky, let me ask you this, have you even ever heard a Beatles song, or an Oasis song? You go on and on about all these unknown artists greatness and never take a moment to actually listen to these very good musicians. You are a fool Nicky.

The key to Nicky's post was the "overrated love they seem to get from this board." I suspect you miss the point.