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Why aren't fashion designers and chefs ever considered to be in the top 100 most influential people of all time.. at least Francis Bacon is in there re.. invented bacon pork chops and cracking.. just sneaked in to the top 100.. the prick should be top 10 re.. a true great re.

Get some pork on your fork.. is up there with.. I think therefore I am.. what goes up must come down.
 
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Angry horse is angry. I can't believe in the ten years since I was in the system, they havent fixed it. Out of sight, out of mind. Does the community just decide we aren't worth it or something? What does it take to do it right? But I guess, like anything DHHS touches, it turns to sh*t.

I don’t pretend to know anything about this issue.
However, I’m surprised that this continues.
I thought there would be enough whistle blowers & concerned administrators to change this.
The bad eggs weeded out, fringe dwellers scared away.
Is it lack of resources? Recruiting the right people?
Certainly a concern that it continues.
 
I don’t pretend to know anything about this issue.
However, I’m surprised that this continues.
I thought there would be enough whistle blowers & concerned administrators to change this.
The bad eggs weeded out, fringe dwellers scared away.
Is it lack of resources? Recruiting the right people?
Certainly a concern that it continues.

Its a combination of things.

There arent enough resources by a long stretch. Even to deal with the needs of kids in out of home care, if they were all fine and ok, would need about double the amount expended on programs. When you factor in a high proportion of kids in out of home care, especially older ones, have significant and complex needs due to damage from whatever led them to be in care, the gap is larger.

Rather than deal with that, the government outsources it. Like many key social services, such as NDIS, aged care, social housing, employment assistance etc, the work is outsourced to tenderers. These are usually community groups, generally religious based like Anglicare, Wesleyan etc. These groups can put in lower tenders because of their low cost base as employers with NFP status and significant charitable arms, but it doesnt mean quality, it just means low cost. There was no money for counselling, even though all the kids had deep complex mental health issues because most had been exposed to violence, sexual violence, drugs, or all of the above. All there was was pills. We used to share them round and have parties to see which combo could * you up worst.

Nobody inside the system is interested in whistleblowing, because the agencies rely on government money from so many programs for their existence, they dont want to upset the apple cart. The fact its run by a religious organisation doesnt mean anything about how its run on the ground - its just a business unit, and money in equals money out. They tick boxes and turn a blind eye, and because its not happening in actual government run institutions, there is no effective oversight. Its all commercial in confidence, and not subject to FOI.

So who is left to speak for us? Not our own families. Kids in residential care are there generally because their parents are dead, unknown, or a dumpster fire, and they have no extended family who are capable, because if there were, they would be in kinship care. The ones left in residential care are the ones least able to cope, because they are the ones most damaged, unsuitable for normal foster carers, or care by extended family, and with the most behavioural issues to contend with. So they are lumped together like matches and kindling.

So maybe we have to be the ones to speak out? Except you spend your time in care surviving, if you can. And out of it. One third are homeless at some stage in their first year out. A quarter have problems with the justice system. Over half are destined to spend their lives dependent on benefits.
I went through the system with about 25 others in group homes. Of those, that I know, nine are now dead. Five in prison. Only two of us completed VCE. I'm the only one who went to uni. We don't matter because we generally just die or disappear or at best, live on the margins.

I think though in a meta sense, it's because to society, we don't exist. We aren't the kids of people they know. We are the other. Like victims of a hurricane in the Philippines or something; a cautionary tale, a pang of sympathy, but remote. Now lets move onto the second race at Dapto dogs.

I chuckle at the freaky Q Anon's a little. They make up this s**t about left wingers and COVID and 5G linked to child sex trafficking cabals and raid pizza joints because theres supposedly children being sex trafficked in the basement. Worse s**t than that is going down in care homes every night here in this state, but those care homes are run by churches so lets not even go there shall we. Instead of screaming about wearing masks, let them go picket Anglicare and I'll take some notice.
 

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Angry horse is angry. I can't believe in the ten years since I was in the system, they havent fixed it. Out of sight, out of mind. Does the community just decide we aren't worth it or something? What does it take to do it right? But I guess, like anything DHHS touches, it turns to sh*t.


I've had some dealings with the testimonies of former residents of out-of-home care, detailed in the Forgotten Australians (and Former Child Migrants) Oral History Project. It is an exploration in unmitigated pain, shame and suffering.

Without being involved in the system, there has been no compelling reason to believe that these people are any less 'Forgotten' now than they always were.

In my opinion, no one is willing to fund the sorts of processes and oversight which would improve the situation, because we're not living in the sort of society which cares enough about people on the margins.
 
Angry horse is angry. I can't believe in the ten years since I was in the system, they havent fixed it. Out of sight, out of mind. Does the community just decide we aren't worth it or something? What does it take to do it right? But I guess, like anything DHHS touches, it turns to sh*t.


We let our most vunerable down, always. The 'system', whatever you want to call it. The invisible people never get respite, anyone that escapes the system must leave behind a lot that don't. :(

I'm really sorry you lived in it.
 

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One of the guys coaching at my gym got COVID in NY during 2020. He is one of the people that 12 months later is still largely incapacitated due to long COVID.

EDIT: This is his story

He lived and breathed the health and fitness lifestyle. Elite soccer player in his 20s. High school PE teached by day, coach at the gym on evenings and the weekend. Trained like an animal and had elite cardio capacity.

Has only recently returned to his day job on a 4 hour per week part time load. Nothing physical, just admin. This helps him mentally more than anything else. He tries to walk every day or maybe a few easy minutes on a spin bike.

But you know, it's just a flu or maybe fake news.

 
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One of the guys coaching at my gym got COVID in NY during 2020. He is one of the people that 12 months later is still largely incapacitated due to long COVID.


I recall reading a study out of the UK a month or so ago that was investigating long covid patients having their symptoms significantly reduced after being vaccinated. It’s a little counterintuitive in having covid and then getting vaccinated 9 - 12 months later but there’s emerging evidence that it reduced the ongoing or lingering symptoms. The why is still being looked at but the hypothesis is that long covid is due to the inflammatory response of the immune system remaining high and not dissipating resulting in ongoing symptoms. The vaccine may act like a reset on the immune system to dampen the fire, so to speak in this cohort. Very interesting research.
 
I recall reading a study out of the UK a month or so ago that was investigating long covid patients having their symptoms significantly reduced after being vaccinated. It’s a little counterintuitive in having covid and then getting vaccinated 9 - 12 months later but there’s emerging evidence that it reduced the ongoing or lingering symptoms. The why is still being looked at but the hypothesis is that long covid is due to the inflammatory response of the immune system remaining high and not dissipating resulting in ongoing symptoms. The vaccine may act like a reset on the immune system to dampen the fire, so to speak in this cohort. Very interesting research.

We discussed the same observational study. He got documentation from an infectious diseases specialist and was able to jump the queue. He is getting his 2nd Pfizer shot next week. :)

Fingers crossed for him.

I very much hope it helps him and look forward to playing a role in helping rebuild his strength, fitness, and confidence.
 
In addition to alleviating the symptoms of long COVID, there's anecdotes of people with allergies (pollen, animals) that are finding that in the days after their vaccinations, their symptoms disappear for a decent period of time as it hits the reset button on their immune system.

We're in an interesting position of being able to monitor these vaccine developments in real time.

Long COVID sounds like hell. Have any countries gone into full shock mode with Yul Brynner-style ads?
 
In addition to alleviating the symptoms of long COVID, there's anecdotes of people with allergies (pollen, animals) that are finding that in the days after their vaccinations, their symptoms disappear for a decent period of time as it hits the reset button on their immune system.

We're in an interesting position to be able to monitor these vaccine developments in real time.

That a Good or Bad Thing?

That all Vaccines?
 
That a Good or Bad Thing?

That all Vaccines?

probably a good thing Dave, if people have bad hayfever or love animals and sneeze like hell around them. I know I wouldn't be unhappy if it stopped my bloody sneezes! ☺️

It doesn't seem to be bad otherwise. Not sure if it's all vaccines, but a forum I read regularly has people in the US discussing it first hand after Pfizer. It's a limited sample of people but it's interesting.
 
probably a good thing Dave, if people have bad hayfever or love animals and sneeze like hell around them. I know I wouldn't be unhappy if it stopped my bloody sneezes! ☺

It doesn't seem to be bad otherwise. Not sure if it's all vaccines, but a forum I read regularly has people in the US discussing it first hand after Pfizer. It's a limited sample of people but it's interesting.

Otto just put a red cross against your name. No Hardistan for you! The land of the orgasmic sneezing frenzy doesn't want you...
 
probably a good thing Dave, if people have bad hayfever or love animals and sneeze like hell around them. I know I wouldn't be unhappy if it stopped my bloody sneezes! ☺️

It doesn't seem to be bad otherwise. Not sure if it's all vaccines, but a forum I read regularly has people in the US discussing it first hand after Pfizer. It's a limited sample of people but it's interesting.

I had the Pfizer, after the first shot my hay fever all but disappeared, but that only lasted a few days, and the second shot had no effect, still sneezing unfortunately.
 
Any vaccine in your arm is better than not having one in your arm.

It will matter less when more people have the vaccinations to act as buffers and filters between people.

I know it's worrying, but there are so many studies and papers released about the efficacy of the current vaccines against Delta. The most promising is that though Pfizer provides more protection after the first dose, it only provides slightly more after the second. AZ is less effective after the first, but bumps up significantly after the second. They're roughly the same numbers after both doses from that study.

And you've fully vaccinated now which is great.
 
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