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Sorry if this has already been mentioned.

Not that this really means a lot but i saw this article (http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/foo...E20322,00.html) linked on another unrelated post and just thought it was interesting that he made a point out of the fact that Adelaide had shown a lot of interest, especially considering he had interest from all clubs basically.

I dont know a hell of a lot about all the draft prospects but what i did see of this guy in the u18s was very good.

I know showing a lot of interest doesnt mean a lot because hes got to be there at our pick as well as be our preferred option of whats remaining. it does show though how likely we are to pick up a quick small forward, especially seeing as he is even unproven as a midfield option. And considering how highly he is rated, we may even do this with our 1st pick.

What do you guys think of him as a player, the chances of us picking him up (with out 1st pick or if he will be any chance of been around for or second) or other small forwards you would rather see us pick (like Maric, is he one of the high rated ones?)?
 
86Crow said:
Sorry if this has already been mentioned.

Not that this really means a lot but i saw this article (http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/foo...E20322,00.html) linked on another unrelated post and just thought it was interesting that he made a point out of the fact that Adelaide had shown a lot of interest, especially considering he had interest from all clubs basically.

I dont know a hell of a lot about all the draft prospects but what i did see of this guy in the u18s was very good.

I know showing a lot of interest doesnt mean a lot because hes got to be there at our pick as well as be our preferred option of whats remaining. it does show though how likely we are to pick up a quick small forward, especially seeing as he is even unproven as a midfield option. And considering how highly he is rated, we may even do this with our 1st pick.

What do you guys think of him as a player, the chances of us picking him up (with out 1st pick or if he will be any chance of been around for or second) or other small forwards you would rather see us pick (like Maric, is he one of the high rated ones?)?
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If Eberts gone this bloke is a monty to be a Crow come Saturday I reckon
 
21knights said:
He goes on to say he wants to be at a Melbourne based club. I hope we don't pick him.
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Name one kid that wants to move interstate at 17, (I realise he is from the NT but he boarded in Melbourne this year)

Put Macca and Stiffy as his mentors and watch him flourish

And I remember him talking about how interested Adelaide were in another article I read, he didnt seem upset about it. Dont forget this was in a Vic paper so it is naturally going to have a skewed spin on it (not accusing them of bias, its just natural)
 

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My major concern in all this is that he is a 17 year old and already he has skinfold issues! Thats not a good thing. The last thing we need is another Sampi!

I think he is the most realistic chance for us with pick 10. I am sure he won't last until 27. Some worrying signs with the kid but I guess we will wait and see.
 
As I've already said previously in the National Draft Thread, I've spoken with a member of Cyril Jnr's family and he indicated that Cyril would love to come to Adelaide and they have shown more interest than any other team.

The article in question has been twisted to give the impression Cyril doesn't want to leave Melbourne, however, this is only a play-on-words as Cyril has family in Melbourne (where he moved to for school and footy and has spent the last 4 years) and is very close to them. He still misses his family in Darwin and would spend most of his available off-season time up there to be with them if he was brought here (not unlike a young Andrew McLeod back then).

I think the chances of Cyril Jnr coming to us are very very high, and a few on here will say it is too big a risk to take him with pick 10, but those who have watched him play and studied his game would know he has as much talent and exciting potential as (if not more than) 4 or 5 other names regularly being bandied around in the top 10 to date.

I'd love to see young Cyril join the Crows. An attacking quick small who loves to cover lots of territory, carry the ball forward, extract at will, create countless opportunities for his teammates, regularly kick long (and accurately) and when playing forward is a dangerous scoring playmaker who could provide headaches with his turn of pace and creativity.

I think if Ebert and Myers are taken by our pick we won't even think twice about taking anyone else, that's just my thoughts ;)
 
MickyCrow said:
Name one kid that wants to move interstate at 17, (I realise he is from the NT but he boarded in Melbourne this year)

Put Macca and Stiffy as his mentors and watch him flourish

And I remember him talking about how interested Adelaide were in another article I read, he didnt seem upset about it. Dont forget this was in a Vic paper so it is naturally going to have a skewed spin on it (not accusing them of bias, its just natural)
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good point he will need some one like Macca to show him the ropes.
 
Look I hope he goes a couple past you guys to us. We need a small crumber.

Wouldn't your recruiters be looking for a tall chf or ff to take a mark and kick some goals and then look at a small forward down the list?
 
Big Ronnie said:
Look I hope he goes a couple past you guys to us. We need a small crumber.

Wouldn't your recruiters be looking for a tall chf or ff to take a mark and kick some goals and then look at a small forward down the list?
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No because we stacked up on talls last year with Sellar, Tippett and Gill and are adding another tall forward in Taylor Walker through the NSW Scholarship.

I think we will be going for smalls with genuine skill and pace. I think its safe to say that we will be picking up a small with our first pick and as SA_Stazza has said, if Ebert and Myers are taken by the time our pick comes around, I think we will pick up Rioli!
 
Stiffy_18 said:
No because we stacked up on talls last year with Sellar, Tippett and Gill and are adding another tall forward in Taylor Walker through the NSW Scholarship.

I think we will be going for smalls with genuine skill and pace. I think its safe to say that we will be picking up a small with our first pick and as SA_Stazza has said, if Ebert and Myers are taken by the time our pick comes around, I think we will pick up Rioli!
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Gill can grab it, but the rest...What happened to Sellar?

he was talk I remember a year ago by some as 5-10 and he slipped out to you guys. has he been injured?

I hear you guys are keeping tight a guy named Chambers? who played for Sturt and is mature ageish.. Is he tied to you guy already or is he in the draft.. Someone that knows someone said he's a gun!
 
Big Ronnie said:
Gill can grab it, but the rest...What happened to Sellar?

he was talk I remember a year ago by some as 5-10 and he slipped out to you guys. has he been injured?

I hear you guys are keeping tight a guy named Chambers? who played for Sturt and is mature ageish.. Is he tied to you guy already or is he in the draft.. Someone that knows someone said he's a gun!
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Sellar has had OP issues all of last year. The player that has impressed the coaches is Tippett and he would have played last year if he didn't do a shoulder. I think you will see a fair bit of Tippett next year.

The club has already ruled Chambers out. He is 28, a FF fron Sturt thats kicked 100 this year. We won't be picking him up especially since we have delisted and traded oldr players. We won't be taking on another one.

I expect us to use all bar 1 of our picks on midfielder and I almost certain that we will pick up a small with our first pick and possibly with our 2nd.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
My major concern in all this is that he is a 17 year old and already he has skinfold issues! Thats not a good thing. The last thing we need is another Sampi!

I think he is the most realistic chance for us with pick 10. I am sure he won't last until 27. Some worrying signs with the kid but I guess we will wait and see.
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He is an amazing talent... talent to burn. I doubt he'd be another Sampi. He has some amazing bloodlines which I'm sure will give him really good advice on how to handle the rigours of AFL footy. I hope we take him. He is just what we need- he's not soft, has pace and skill. He's a tad short but we need some excitement in our robotic and dull line up.
 
And if we took Motlop with 27.... well, I dont think ol Craigys heart could handle that much excitement on the field;)
 

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crowsarethebest said:
He is an amazing talent... talent to burn. I doubt he'd be another Sampi. He has some amazing bloodlines which I'm sure will give him really good advice on how to handle the rigours of AFL footy. I hope we take him. He is just what we need- he's not soft, has pace and skill. He's a tad short but we need some excitement in our robotic and dull line up.
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His height is not an issue for me. Kerr is a midget but a bloody good player ;)

I am just a bit concerned with the skinfolds. I know you can get those down but if you have those at 17, chances are you could be battling weight problems for the rest of your career. Thats where the Sampi reference comes in ;)

Other than that, I really like what the kid brings to the table. Pace, X-factor, goal kicking ability and PURE talent to burn. If he pans out, you could have a very very special player on your hands but if he doesn't......

I guess what I am trying to say is that he is not a "safe" pick :(
 
Gets! said:
If Ebert is gone at 10....Mr Cyril, welcome to the AFC.
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First round picks are all about minimising risk (which we may not have done so well at before).

Both have risks:
- Ebert missed out on some of the draft camp making comparisons a bit harder
- Rioli is a fat man just busting to get out.

NC does not like risk and he likes good trainers. Another slider will be Jarrad Grant cos he has attitude problems which outweigh his brilliance.

McDermott was right last year too BTW. Shane Edwards was rated ahead of Sellar by JF but was not selected because of KPP needs. I reckon Edwards will be miles ahead in a few years. There were big risks on Sellar AFC should have listened to.

I don't think the new team will be so careless.
 
Great. A fatty boombar is just what we need.

I'll be very disappointed if we spend # 10 on a kid who is out of shape. Whats he going to be like when he has money to buy more food? I reckon its near certain if he's struggling with weight issues now as a kid, he always will. I think of the Essendon Rioli, fat at the beggining and retired early because he was still too bloody fat.

I say pass. Lets get some one who has the motivation to at least get fit for the draft. If he's too lazy to get fit for draft time, whats he going to be like when he's on a list? I'll tell you, he will be fat and bloody lazy still.
 
Honestly, Messiah & Crowked.. Get a clue :thumbsd:

Have you even seen the boy?

A fatty boombah doesnt finish 3rd overall in the Repeat Sprints at DC.

A fatty boombah doesnt cover the 3rd most territory of any player in his division nationally.

A fatty boombah doesnt lead his division nationally for score assists and centre clearances.

A fatty boombah doesnt finish in the top 3 in his division for clearances, contested possessions, effective kicks, score assists, inside 50s and long kicks.

We must be thinking of two completely opposite players :rolleyes:

Really, you two were about as premature in those outbursts as Choco was 3 days before the GF.
 

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SA_Stazza said:
Honestly, Messiah & Crowked.. Get a clue :thumbsd:

Have you even seen the boy?

A fatty boombah doesnt finish 3rd overall in the Repeat Sprints at DC.

A fatty boombah doesnt cover the 3rd most territory of any player in his division nationally.

A fatty boombah doesnt lead his division nationally for score assists and centre clearances.

A fatty boombah doesnt finish in the top 3 in his division for clearances, contested possessions, effective kicks, score assists, inside 50s and long kicks.

We must be thinking of two completely opposite players :rolleyes:

Really, you two were about as premature in those outbursts as Choco was 3 days before the GF.
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The short answer is no I havent seen him, and mine is not a very educated opinion. However we are talking about spending a top 10 draft pick on a boy who, by your words was the third best in the second division. I reckon we should be looking for more for a top 10 pick.

We need a small forward with some X, no doubt, but do you take these risks with pick 10? I think not. I'm 100% sure there are 10 more certain AFL players in the pool. After reading all the draft profiles, I reckon there might be 15. I'd be very surprised if NC took a risk on a chubby when he bases our game plan on blokes who can run all day, every day.
 
Messiah said:
First round picks are all about minimising risk (which we may not have done so well at before).

Both have risks:
- Ebert missed out on some of the draft camp making comparisons a bit harder
- Rioli is a fat man just busting to get out.

NC does not like risk and he likes good trainers. Another slider will be Jarrad Grant cos he has attitude problems which outweigh his brilliance.

McDermott was right last year too BTW. Shane Edwards was rated ahead of Sellar by JF but was not selected because of KPP needs. I reckon Edwards will be miles ahead in a few years. There were big risks on Sellar AFC should have listened to.

I don't think the new team will be so careless.
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Settle down.
 
Crowked said:
The short answer is no I havent seen him, and mine is not a very educated opinion. However we are talking about spending a top 10 draft pick on a boy who, by your words was the third best in the second division. I reckon we should be looking for more for a top 10 pick.

We need a small forward with some X, no doubt, but do you take these risks with pick 10? I think not. I'm 100% sure there are 10 more certain AFL players in the pool. After reading all the draft profiles, I reckon there might be 15. I'd be very surprised if NC took a risk on a chubby when he bases our game plan on blokes who can run all day, every day.
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We know that div 2 is lesser in terms of competition but really it means nothing about whether or not he can play. From all the reports Rioli is extremely talented kid and on pure talent could well be top 5 pick.

I am going to sit on the fence with this one and back in our recruting department and hope they have done their due dilligence on this one. In terms of talent Rioli is EXACTLY what we need along with Ebert. He can start his career off as a forward and work his way up from there. McLeod also was a bit overweight when we got him. A chubby little kid with the talent to burn. A couple of hard years on the track and he was Brownlow Medal type player.

The question here is whether or not the kid is motivated to be the best he can be and is he prepared to work hard on it. He did have a nasty ankle injury that might have taken away some of his fitness but he still managed to perform and kick 7 goals on a blown ankle. The recruiting team need to really do their research on this one and see if he has the work ethic to get fit and become a midfielder. And seriously, the aboriginal culture is such that these kids have enormous respect for their elderly and if that person happens to be McLeod, I can just imagine your Cyril bouncing off walls and hanging off bunji's every word. I am confident that McLeod will be a super positive influence on the lad and get him to get fit and make the best out of his chance.

If ever there was a time to bring in a player like Rioli, its now! McLeod is a perfect role model for him but he won't be around for ever and as much as I love Johncock, he isn't exactly someone you would want Rioli to look up to. This is the bloke that hasn't got it in him to quit the ****, run his guts out and move into the midfield.

If we do get Rioli, I would be backing our recruting guys in and believe that they have done their homework on young Cyril.
 
Crowked said:
The short answer is no I havent seen him, and mine is not a very educated opinion.
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This is where i should have stopped reading, but being the generous bloke I am...

Crowked said:
However we are talking about spending a top 10 draft pick on a boy who, by your words was the third best in the second division. I reckon we should be looking for more for a top 10 pick.

We need a small forward with some X, no doubt, but do you take these risks with pick 10? I think not. I'm 100% sure there are 10 more certain AFL players in the pool. After reading all the draft profiles, I reckon there might be 15. I'd be very surprised if NC took a risk on a chubby when he bases our game plan on blokes who can run all day, every day.
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Please tell me exactly where I said Rioli was the "3rd best player in Div 2" ??

Top 3 finishes in the categories I mentioned imply a 1st, 2nd or 3rd rank.. Or did you skip Grade 2 Mathematics?

He covered the 3rd most ground of any player (yet apparently he's just a ball of lard according to the bloke who's never seen him but heard his skinfolds were a problem area! :rolleyes:)

He was number 1 / 1st / ranked the highest / finished above everyone in score assists, centre clearances and kick retention.

I said I'd love to see Cyril here if Ebert and Myers had already been taken by pick 10, and I firmly believe that is the way our recruiters will go if such a scenario arises.

If you are going to quote me, atleast do it correctly rather than resorting to putting words in my mouth to suit your ridiculous babbling.

And just for your information, the top rated (that is, those that finished 1st!!)endurance and agility performers at DC were Key Position prospects, so I guess we can just give up on finding a midfielder who can run all day, every day if they only managed to finish, say 3rd :rolleyes:
 

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