D4 D4 2010

[Ruck Machine]

Round 3 Tips

North Brunswick vs South Mornington - NB by 2 goals
Chadstone vs Eley Park - EP by 8 goals
Richmond Central vs Swinburne Uni - RC by 1 goal
Manningham vs Mt Lilydale - MtL by 5 goals
Point Cook vs Box Hill North - BHN by 1 point

Reserves: NB, EP, SU, MtL and BHN.

 

[foxtel]

Could anyone from Point Cook let us know what they think of the standard of division 4 and how it compares to the local comp i would appreciate your thoughts.

 

[bigwaz]

Round 2 Power Rankings ............... (not including RC)


1. Monash (1)
2. Mt Lilydale (5)
3. Swinburne (3)
4. Manningham (2)
5. South Mornington (7)
6. North Brunswick (4)
7. Point Cook (6)
8. Box Hill North (-)
9. Eley Park (8)
10. Chadstone (9)

 

[vicmetro35]

Fair question...Max has played two great games in the magoos and considering he spent most of last year as a senior player I would think he'd be in the mix, in saying that it is a pretty tough time in selection at the moment with quite a few missing out on a game every week and with the seniors playing so well to start the year would you realy want to shuffle a winning formular????
You dont happen to be from Manningham do you???? I heard there was a couple of Manningham boys down having a look in preperation for next week.

Thanx for the reply Sneako and No I’m not from Manningham, just interested to see why he is not in the 1’s, he kicked 30 plus goals in the 1’s last year and was among there best from what I have been told. He looked to be in the best 5 to 10 players at the club from what I have seen. I can’t see any reason why he is not playing 1’s, does he not want to?

 

[Fruitloop]

Thanx for the reply Sneako and No I’m not from Manningham, just interested to see why he is not in the 1’s, he kicked 30 plus goals in the 1’s last year and was among there best from what I have been told. He looked to be in the best 5 to 10 players at the club from what I have seen. I can’t see any reason why he is not playing 1’s, does he not want to?

Work commitments unfortunately prevent Max from playing one's.

 

[rabs2000]

I heard that the new Swinburne coach George Koumantatakis has banned anyone at the club from using the forum to prevent information leaks. Seems to be running a tight ship.

what a load of crap...let men be men.....

 

[Razorback]

I heard that the new Swinburne coach George Koumantatakis has banned anyone at the club from using the forum to prevent information leaks. Seems to be running a tight ship.

No such ban. Think the guys are just enjoying some good early season wins. Hopefully we will continue to do our talking on the field.

 

[theinsider10]

Could anyone from Point Cook let us know what they think of the standard of division 4 and how it compares to the local comp i would appreciate your thoughts.

Im not from pc just a local footy fan from their area, interested in seeing how they are travelling. From what i've read not too well to start the season, might have got a little ahead of themselves early, and sneaking into the 5 should probably be their aim. From what I've seen/heard, the depth isnt there, very few blokes in their 2's will be able to push up into the 1's and have an impact which is to be expected from a club starting out from scratch but with good facilities i expect them to compete in a couple of seasons.

From what i've seen, D4 is a long way off their local comp, certainly the div 1 of wrfl and top half of div 2 is streets ahead. Not sure how many RC had out that day, but i saw them play laverton (bottom 3 in div 2, 0-2 to start the season) and they were comfortably beaten. Laverton forwards butchered the ball all day and RC kicked a few late ones to keep the end score as close as it was, but scoring shots and the feel of the game from where i was, was that RC were well beaten. So based on that, what RC have done in d4 and Laverton have done in their league, I'd say the standard of comp in d4 is fair way below what you'd get in the local league.

 

[bigwaz]

Laverton had a great full forward, and a good midfield structure, but they wouldn't [necessarily] win D4.

 

[Drongo]

Im not from pc just a local footy fan from their area, interested in seeing how they are travelling. From what i've read not too well to start the season, might have got a little ahead of themselves early, and sneaking into the 5 should probably be their aim. From what I've seen/heard, the depth isnt there, very few blokes in their 2's will be able to push up into the 1's and have an impact which is to be expected from a club starting out from scratch but with good facilities i expect them to compete in a couple of seasons.

If PC can't knock off Bok Hill this week they will have no chance of making the 5. It's make or break time for PC already.

 

[McGaw17]

swinburne = strong midfield. alot of players who can break tackles and run thru the lines. backline is strong and runs well also.
their only weakness maybe their forwardline. but dosen't seem to a problem yet. if a team can smother their midfield and limit their opportunities - that might be more of a problem to swinburne than another side with a stronger forwardline.

I`d rate Swinburne a little in front of RC , not alot though. Above quotes are pretty spot on , good running side.
In RC favour we did have 6 of our starting 18 from the game that played them out for Swinburne , so that hurt us.
Going to take time for us, only early days.

 

[rabs2000]

Im not from pc just a local footy fan from their area, interested in seeing how they are travelling. From what i've read not too well to start the season, might have got a little ahead of themselves early, and sneaking into the 5 should probably be their aim. From what I've seen/heard, the depth isnt there, very few blokes in their 2's will be able to push up into the 1's and have an impact which is to be expected from a club starting out from scratch but with good facilities i expect them to compete in a couple of seasons.

From what i've seen, D4 is a long way off their local comp, certainly the div 1 of wrfl and top half of div 2 is streets ahead. Not sure how many RC had out that day, but i saw them play laverton (bottom 3 in div 2, 0-2 to start the season) and they were comfortably beaten. Laverton forwards butchered the ball all day and RC kicked a few late ones to keep the end score as close as it was, but scoring shots and the feel of the game from where i was, was that RC were well beaten. So based on that, what RC have done in d4 and Laverton have done in their league, I'd say the standard of comp in d4 is fair way below what you'd get in the local league.

take an asprin a have a lie down...that was a practice match.....your got a very 'shallow'...in depth view of it.......bad kicking is bad footy...isnt it???....might check with malthouse on that....

 

[theinsider10]

take an asprin a have a lie down...that was a practice match.....your got a very 'shallow'...in depth view of it.......bad kicking is bad footy...isnt it???....might check with malthouse on that....

You are a complete goose. A bloke asked what someone thought of the level of competition in D4 compared to the level of competition in PC's local area and i tried to answer his question. This is a footy forum and I was trying to talk some footy, better than you going around being a keyboard hero. Pretty sure i didnt pot any club or any person, just giving an opinion you idiot.

I never said Laverton would win D4, i never said D4 sides were bad, just simply in my opinion they beat richmond comfortably, and richmond have had a good start to the season.

Bad kicking sure is bad football, but as you said it was a practice match, and if you took your head from between your legs, you might look for signs of things in those sorts of games. The fact their forwards had so many opportunities (which they missed) suggests that were on top through the midfield which is where a game is won.

Anyway these days, how can you believe anything that comes out of malthouse's mouth???

 

[bigwaz]

Tips for Round 3......................... (results - 10 from 10 so far I think, but good close games to tip this week.)

South Morn @ North Brun (Playing at the magnificent new Dino Dimarco Pavillion!) - NB would be shattered after their performance last week. The Tigers have had good leads in both their games this season, only to let them slip away in the second half. One team will be 0-3, and in a deep hole this early in the 16 round season. CRUCIAL match for both sides. NB to break the drought at home by 2 goals after trailing all day.

Eley Park @ Chadstone (You'll be bloody lucky to get a park there at 2pm on a Saturday) - Another matchup of winless teams, with the same implications. Chadstone have improved since last season, and they'll be looking at this as a winnable game. It will be a tight contest for 3 quarters, with EP pulling away in the last if chaddy runs out of puff. EP by 5 goals.

Swinburne @ Richmond Central (In the tranquil surrounds of KB reserve) - I'm hoping the larger ground confounds the razorbacks RC by 1 point.

Mt lilydale @ Manningham (Best surface in D4?) - The dales have played out of their skins in the first two rounds, and the Hammers have shown a big improvement from last season. Should be a good game, with the winner climbing up the power rankings! Lilydale by 2 goals.

Box Hill North @ Point Cook (Sons of the West) - Point cook would be disappointed with their start, and Box Hill will be excited with theirs. If PC don't get a win on board soon (and at home), the big crowds may start to dwindle. Look for them to get a good win this week. PC by 5 goals.

 

[Drongo]

South Morn @ North Brun. Sth Morn by 2 goals.
Eley Park @ Chadstone. Eley Park by 7 goals.
Swinburne @ Richmond Central. Swinburne by 4 goals.
Mt lilydale @ Manningham. Mt Lily by 15 goals.
Box Hill North @ Point Cook. Point Cook by 1 goal.

 

[HarveyWallbanger]

I reckon the standard of D4 has improved significantly over the last 5 years.

The difference to say that of a local EFL side is the last 6 players selected in the 1sts and depth.

IMHO, most top 5 players at each club could go elsewhere for coin.

Richmond classic case - they were terrible 5 years back but now through the hard work of committee and recruitment, are a strong club onfield.

 

[melbdocker]

score 9/10

North Brunswick v South Morninton - north to bounce back after a terrible week
Chadstone v Eley Park - sharks easily
Richmond Central v Swinburne - tiger snakers to continue early season form
Manningham v Mt lilydale - cobs to keep the home ground adv we have against the rams
Point Cook v Box Hill North - bulldogs just by what i saw in the pre season although bhn alot better side with erv and penny back

 

[Jethro!]

I reckon the standard of D4 has improved significantly over the last 5 years.

The difference to say that of a local EFL side is the last 6 players selected in the 1sts and depth.

IMHO, most top 5 players at each club could go elsewhere for coin.

Richmond classic case - they were terrible 5 years back but now through the hard work of committee and recruitment, are a strong club onfield.

ahahahaha get your hand off it harvey!!

 

[pjjn]

It was last year you pipped them after the siren I think. Must be a great feeling winning one after the final ringer and have never been involved in such a predicament. Thats two games in two rounds decided after the siren in D4.
We are two rounds in and I would have to say any predictions for top 3-5 or who may be playing in the big one are still very premature. As for us 'Mountain Men' we have beaten Chadstone who have improved but not enough to push for a finals spot, aswell as a Nth.Brunswick side who after listening to thier coach realy didnt rate us at all before the bounce. We now travell to Manningham then we host Richmond, so if we can pick up two wins the self belief would know doubt grow around the club.

Sneako could you elaborate re Nth brunswick coach as i was in the pre match and have no idea what your on about.

 

[northwichvic]

You are a complete goose. A bloke asked what someone thought of the level of competition in D4 compared to the level of competition in PC's local area and i tried to answer his question. This is a footy forum and I was trying to talk some footy, better than you going around being a keyboard hero. Pretty sure i didnt pot any club or any person, just giving an opinion you idiot.

I never said Laverton would win D4, i never said D4 sides were bad, just simply in my opinion they beat richmond comfortably, and richmond have had a good
start to the season.

Bad kicking sure is bad football, but as you said it was a practice match, and if you took your head from between your legs, you might look for signs of things in those sorts of games. The fact their forwards had so many opportunities (which they missed) suggests that were on top through the midfield which is where a game is won.

Anyway these days, how can you believe anything that comes out of malthouse's mouth???

geez louise. D4 football is quite terrible if we're honest. Division 7 amateur football , division 7 people. don't get your back up if someone says that other leagues are of a better standard. because they are. don't be insulted. C grade would probably be 20 times better than d4, go watch a C grade game. then imagine a standard 10 times better and you've got A grade. in the end it doesn't matter as long as you're having fun. if you think your better - then go play a higher grade.
Bottom line - D4 is a bad standard of football. but thats OK.

 

[Jethro!]

geez louise. D4 football is quite terrible if we're honest. Division 7 amateur football , division 7 people. don't get your back up if someone says that other leagues are of a better standard. because they are. don't be insulted. C grade would probably be 20 times better than d4, go watch a C grade game. then imagine a standard 10 times better and you've got A grade. in the end it doesn't matter as long as you're having fun. if you think your better - then go play a higher grade.
Bottom line - D4 is a bad standard of football. but thats OK.

i concur, i've played in this league and ones where we got paid, standard was much better there but i'm much happier playing footy here

 

[3rd man in]

Sneako could you elaborate re Nth brunswick coach as i was in the pre match and have no idea what your on about.

do u think its a good idea coaches postin on here, u hav a short memory what did u say bout my postin last year??????
i think the club has enough problems at the moment, without you worrin bout what other clubs r sayin. maybe more of a focus on how our boys r feelin at the way things r going at the moment.
a divided playin group has no chance of wining a flag.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Progressive score: 7/10

North Brunswick by 9
Eley Park by 42
Richmond by 10
Mt Lilydale by 22
Box Hill North

 

[bigwaz]

As someone mentioned earlier, D4 is way better than in previous seasons, and this year in particular will be very competitive.

Its a good sign... Also good to note that 2 of the 3 promoted sides from last season are undefeated in D3. Just goes to show there isn't much between the two divisions.

 

[TerryS]

5/5 so far
Monash v South Mornington - 36 points.
Boxhill North v Eley Park - 11 points.
Richmond Central v Chadstone - 96 points.
Mt Lilydale v North Brunswick - 4 points.
Swinburne Uni v Point Cook - 10 points.

10/10 so far but notice I'm not the only one. Looks like the season is going the way most people thought... well except for PC who a fair few thought may be a little stronger early on.

All away teams first round, all home teams second round. Surely this will change this week.

North Brunswick v South Mornington - 10 points. I'm a little nervous tipping NB this week after the dissappointing result last week. South Morning are fast starters but this NB will get over the top of them in the end. Both are good teams who have had a couple of tough asks in the first two weeks.
Chadstone v Eley Park - 54 points. I don't think I can tip Chadstone again this year.
Richmond Central v Swinburne - 15 points. I think RC are just a little too strong in what I think should be match of the round.
Manningham v Mt Lilydale - 25 points. Mt Lilydale look like a pretty good outfit this year if they can continue the form showed against NB.
Point Cook v Box Hill North - 32 points. Another interesting game this. Point Cook need to show more than they have so far if they are going to impress.