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C.E.Lovett said:
Sorry young fella. That's just nonsense. Absolute nonsense.

I watched the game. I have it on replay.

Cross got one ball out of the centre, that was in the last quarter where he kicked it to an hawthorn guy. Hawthorn just took the ball away time and time again.

What have I got to do - describe them all.
You can check in mondays herald sun.He had 6 out of our sides 30 clearances.
 
i think cross and west have worked really well together this year. Rohde would never really use cross and west together at the same time, he would rotate them off the bench more but through eade they are both complementing each other. Previously if west was tagged out or wasn't having an impact, we would really struggle to get the ball, having someone like cross working along side him just makes it a lot easier for us at stoppages and in getting the ball to guys like cooney.

He's still got plenty of improvement left in him and he's the type of person who will endeavour to get that out of himself.
 
GoAds said:
Unfortunately for crossy he would be in the worst 10 kicks in the league, up there with Gaspar. he definately needs to improve in this area, gilbs... take him under your wing, .......please!
Thats ridiculous.His kicking has improved out of sight.He wouldn't be in the worst 80 kicks let alone the worst 10.Still has alot of work to do on it but his kicking is pretty servicebale now.
 
What classifies as winning the ball from a stoppage?

Does one have to get the kick or is a handball to an open man from under the pack classified as winning the ball?

If its the latter than Cross has won his first stoppage after 1min 30sec in the 1st quarter. With 18:40 left on the clock Cross grabbed the ball from a boundary throw-in and handballed it to an open Street, who fluffed the kick. I might add that Cross beat a Hawks player to do it aswell.

Edit: Cross update, just did the first option of what a clearance is with 6:15 remaining on the clock in the 1st quarter.
 

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Sporty Spice said:
That's the danger of writing players off so early in their careers and then claiming that you'll back your record over mine, it'll come back to bit you on the arse.


It's all a bit of fun. I've certainly enjoyed watching his career take off, and i'm sure you have to. It's nice to be proven wrong in these sorts of situations.
We all assess players differently ie Clayton picking James Condos over Aaron Davey
I still will back my record over yours. I will not elaborate, do not need to.
Cross has been very good in the clearances and has the added height advantage over many midfielders hence being able to outmark them in a 50/50 contest.
His kicking whilst it has improved will never be his strong point. Remember the kick for goal from 40m on the weekend that went out on the full?
He has caught the opposition off guard, even Eade himself has been surprised with him.
Cross will get more attention in the future, that is when the true test will come.
 
seems nobody can agree on what a clearance is, even the official sources or newspapers.

I would tend to go with the pro-stats figures because keeping stats is their sole focus, so they aught to get it right. they generally show less stats than the papers do, such as in terms of tackles. they show attempted and successful tackles.

at the end of the day, cross is averageing about 27 posessions, of which about 12 he gets himself. of those half are hardballs. he also averages 6 attempted tackles a game, about 4 of which stick.

take west and cross out of our midfield and it would sink without a trace.
 
whythelongface said:
Pembleton that was an extremely good post.

Cheers dude.

desipura said:
I still will back my record over yours. I will not elaborate, do not need to.

Good on you for taking your medicine and accepting that your extremely strong call on Cross last year was wrong, but why the need to say things like the above? You say there is no need for you to elaborate on this mysterious record of yours,why is there a need to mention it at all? You could be a football recruiting genuis for all i know, but feeling the need to assert the strength of your record (without even supporting the claim) instead of relying on the quality of the opinions you put forward on this board (which should make it obvious that you are strong in this area, if in fact you are) just makes you seem very insecure.
 
Well, after waiting all day, I still missed the first half (still on tape to watch a bit later), but watched the second half.

Does one have to get the kick or is a handball to an open man from under the pack classified as winning the ball?

Definately the later, imho....At least this is the 'standard' that West has been judged on for years, surely?

15.40 left in 3rd: Great handball to West out of a pack. West kicks into forward line.
Next possession was a precision pass to Guido, who kicked a goal.
3.00 left 3rd: Crumbs a marking contest, handballs 15 metres straight to Guido who kicked a point.
0.10 left:Handball out of congestion to Birss, who kicks forward.

18.00 left in 4th: Handball straight to Spida in the centre. (1 TO)
17.20: Left foot kick under extreme pressure hits Ray 40 metres away on the chest.
14.40: Surrounded by 3 Hawks, handballs out to West who gets a free kick.
13.30: Ruck tap straight to West who kicks forward.
8.00: Outmarks Mitchell in a one-on-one contest.
6.10: Handball under extreme pressure to Cooney.
5.04: Got kick out of centre to a one-on-one contest at CHF.
2.00: Marked strongly under pressure from Lewis.

Now, take out of that what you will, but it reads pretty well to me...Better still, it looks bloody good watching him.

Definately agree with Pembleton's post... and... at the end of the day, cross is averageing about 27 posessions, of which about 12 he gets himself. of those half are hardballs. he also averages 6 attempted tackles a game, about 4 of which stick.

take west and cross out of our midfield and it would sink without a trace.


Sums it up perfectly, stefoid. :cool:
 

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