Daniel Merrett

[stokesy]

PS I am assuming that this is Roger's son?

They are no relation.

 

[mojo31]

Watt is the fastest bloke at the Kangas and did well in the GF sprint. And he is footy slow. Anticipation, mobility and speed around corners is what these guys DON'T have.

Spot on. Livingston tested unbeliavable at draft camp but you cant measure how slow he is to react and the effect of injuries, body changes due to weights and so on.

Goddard and Wells ran the same time at draft camp over 20m. Now 3 years later all the weight increases that Goddard has put on from weights means he is no even in the same ball park.
Still in a straight line over a reasonable distance it would not be so bad but when it comer to break away speed, agility, changing direction, anticipation and all the things in football that matter in that regard Wells has him covered by a long long way.

Merrett might very well be okay in a straight line when he knows when to start running but on a football field where he has to react and change direction and so on he is as slow as it comes.

 

[Blues_Man]

Spot on. Livingston tested unbeliavable at draft camp but you cant measure how slow he is to react and the effect of injuries, body changes due to weights and so on.

Goddard and Wells ran the same time at draft camp over 20m. Now 3 years later all the weight increases that Goddard has put on from weights means he is no even in the same ball park.
Still in a straight line over a reasonable distance it would not be so bad but when it comer to break away speed, agility, changing direction, anticipation and all the things in football that matter in that regard Wells has him covered by a long long way.

Merrett might very well be okay in a straight line when he knows when to start running but on a football field where he has to react and change direction and so on he is as slow as it comes.

still waiting for your answer mojoe ...how fast is mal michael ???

 

[mojo31]

still waiting for your answer mojoe ...how fast is mal michael ???

Sorry mate. My answer is this.

If the ball is quickly turned over and Mal Michael is standing shoulder to shoulder with Daniel Merrett and the player kicks the ball quickly then he will be the first player to react. He will judge the flight of the ball better and put his body in the right position as quickly as anyone in the league.
Merrett on the other hand will react slowly and not read the play, flight of the ball or what is likely to happen and be seond to the ball.

That answer your question?

Lance is quick to react but is so slow to move that it is negated MOST of the time. Especially in our team. In a team with good kicking skills and fast movement he would shine. Anyone say the Western Bulldogs?


Mal is not slow if that is what you mean.

I would say Gardiner at top pace is not slow. Over 10 meters he takes forever to get going and has no agility or awareness about him. Thats the problem I see with Merrett and also with Livingston.
Does not mean they cannot improve but its pretty hard to do.

You are measuring top speed when acceleration, agility, turning, second efforts, reaction time and things like that are what makes it is important to look at in a footballer. Not how quick they are travelling at top pace when taking there 4th bounce as they run into the open goal.
That is just fantasy stuff.

Apart from Judd nobody does that sort of thing in pressure games on a regular basis.

 

[Snoozer]

The last thing we need is another lumbering red-knob in our forward line.

 

[OZBomb]

There's only one Warren Tredrea in the game.

Carlton needs a power forward, Merrett is a power forward.

I really wonder if we're looking at the same player when words like 'lumbering' are used.

 

[Bluesnews43]

Dont Want Him... Cant Kick, Not Agile, And Too Ugly

 

[mojo31]

There's only one Warren Tredrea in the game.

Carlton needs a power forward, Merrett is a power forward.

I really wonder if we're looking at the same player when words like 'lumbering' are used.

Based on what is Merrett a power forward? His size?
I suppose Quntin Lynch is as well then.

Merrett took 11 contested marks this year from 15 games playing up forward.
Kicked 13 goals. Took a total of 40 marks for the season.

Toothpick thin Brad Fisher took 8 contested marks from 7 games and 44 overall and kicked 13 goals.

Fisher is 21. Merrett turns 21 soon.

If you dont have the skill, ability to use your size to take contested marks or create opportunities then there is no point.

Kossy yes he can pklay as a power forward and take contested marks and is not slow to move/react. Injury prone though.
Watts no.
Merrett no.
Hentscel yes.

Merrett might be okay in time but at this stage he is not. If we got him for a 4th round pick then great but for a serious trade he is not worth it.

 

[Blues_Man]

any reason why Merret can't be groomed as a backman ???

 

[mojo31]

any reason why Merret can't be groomed as a backman ???

Yes, plenty of reasons why he would struggle there. Read anything I have said in this thread.

 

[OZBomb]

It's pretty clear that we're not going to agree on Merrett. I understand your points but don't really agree with them. I think there's some good tools there that justify a trade for a 20 or 36 based on this guy's potential and the potential of the guys who will be available at 20 or 36.

Trent Potential is really good, but I'm not sure he's a "Power Forward" yet either. He's more like a 'Jarrad Waite type' at the moment. Not to say he couldn't become one as I think he will be Adelaide's focal point in two years time.

Quinten Lynch is a Power forward... just not a very good one... lol.

Mojo what where your thoughts on Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls at the Championships? I know he'll probably go to a WA club before he's on our radar, but he seemed to be a really good reader of the play albeit a very skinny athletic type that might be a good pick-up mid draft to develop for 3 or so years.

 

[mojo31]

It's pretty clear that we're not going to agree on Merrett. I understand your points but don't really agree with them. I think there's some good tools there that justify a trade for a 20 or 36 based on this guy's potential and the potential of the guys who will be available at 20 or 36.

Trent Potential is really good, but I'm not sure he's a "Power Forward" yet either. He's more like a 'Jarrad Waite type' at the moment. Not to say he couldn't become one as I think he will be Adelaide's focal point in two years time.

Quinten Lynch is a Power forward... just not a very good one... lol.

Mojo what where your thoughts on Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls at the Championships? I know he'll probably go to a WA club before he's on our radar, but he seemed to be a really good reader of the play albeit a very skinny athletic type that might be a good pick-up mid draft to develop for 3 or so years.

Firstly on Hentscel. He can play at either end of the ground. A very good mover and tall and athletic. Can take a contested mark and also is a very good kick for goal.

Jarred Oakley-Nicholls is bottom aged and a tall midfielder. Plenty of room for improvement physically in him. Really come on as the season went on and cracked it for senior football in the WAFL for East Perth.
I cant say I remember him from the U18 carnival. I was taking notice of Swallow, Kennedy, Clark and Ryder and Jetta and Benjamin.
Cant say he was even on my radar.


Just had a look at FootyDraft and he is projected at 12 now after not even being in the top 50 a while ago.

 

[OZBomb]

Jarred Oakley-Nicholls is bottom aged and a tall midfielder. Plenty of room for improvement physically in him. Really come on as the season went on and cracked it for senior football in the WAFL for East Perth.
I cant say I remember him from the U18 carnival. I was taking notice of Swallow, Kennedy, Clark and Ryder and Jetta and Benjamin.
Cant say he was even on my radar.


Just had a look at FootyDraft and he is projected at 12 now after not even being in the top 50 a while ago.

Yeah I just read that as well. I don't think Melbourne needs another 'outside' midfielder however.

Jetta would be close to a top 10 pick next year. Was impressed by him.

 

[gadj1976]

don't need another forward fullstop

 

[mojo31]

Yeah I just read that as well. I don't think Melbourne needs another 'outside' midfielder however.

Jetta would be close to a top 10 pick next year. Was impressed by him.

Jetta would be.
Selwood would be.
Gumbleton would be.
Lachlan Hansen would be.
Jack Riewdolt would be.

did I miss anyone?

Apart from Gibbs and a few others I have not seen play as well.... Mitch Thorp.....

Agghhhhhhh wrong draft.

Can you imagine pick 1 and 4 next year?

It would be like picking 2 out of Judd/Ball/Hodge in 2001 and adding in Riewoldt and Kossy to the mix.

 

[OZBomb]

Jetta would be.
Selwood would be.
Gumbleton would be.
Lachlan Hansen would be.
Jack Riewdolt would be.

did I miss anyone?

Apart from Gibbs and a few others I have not seen play as well.... Mitch Thorp.....

Agghhhhhhh wrong draft.

Can you imagine pick 1 and 4 next year?

It would be like picking 2 out of Judd/Ball/Hodge in 2001 and adding in Riewoldt and Kossy to the mix.

I know it sucks it really does.

They've got to get rid of the priority system as it is by next year.

Just move them to the end of the first round I think.

 

[Silvagnis]

Lachlan Hansen would be.

Outside player if I ever saw one and needs to hit the weights before he'd get a game.A good footballer though and just needs to eat nothing but protein for a year.

 

[mojo31]

Outside player if I ever saw one and needs to hit the weights before he'd get a game.A good footballer though and just needs to eat nothing but protein for a year.

Oh man that was funny. Absolutely smashed everyone at CHB including a few big names in the TAC towrds the end of the year. Seen him play 3 times and talk about a gun.
Just turned 17 and 195cms already. Might end up being 2 meters tall and a legitimate KPP.

 

[Silvagnis]

Oh man that was funny. Absolutely smashed everyone at CHB including a few big names in the TAC towrds the end of the year. Seen him play 3 times and talk about a gun.

Why? I've only seen him once and can't judge him on any other performance.He is even described on the AFL website as an outside player and I said he was a good footballer.Kicks a mile off 1 step and accurately but is a stick and would be smashed at AFL level in a key position.

Just turned 17 and 195cms already. Might end up being 2 meters tall and a legitimate KPP.

Didn't Mitch Clark smash everyone in an under-age competition?

 

[mojo31]

Why? I've only seen him once and can't judge him on any other performance.He is even described on the AFL website as an outside player and I said he was a good footballer.Kicks a mile off 1 step and accurately but is a stick and would be smashed at AFL level in a key position.

Didn't Mitch Clark smash everyone in an under-age competition?

Hansen does not have Mitch Clark's squib attitude. Of course he is a stick he just turned 17 two months ago. What are you expecting. Kennedy is 18 months older than him as a comparison.

Hansen has been playing CHB. If Clark was playing there his man would kick 10 each week with his 'work ethic' and general attitude.

Clark was projected at pick 1 at the start of the year based on what he had done before. Even after a poor carnival and doing nothing since in the WAFL and his coach telling recruiters that his attitude is questionable he will still go top 10.

Lachlan Hansen is right where Clark was last year and if he has a poor year like Clark has he will drop down the order as well. No attitude problems with him though and he got better and better as the season went on.

 

[Silvagnis]

Hansen does not have Mitch Clark's squib attitude. Of course he is a stick he just turned 17 two months ago. What are you expecting. Kennedy is 18 months older than him as a comparison.

He is an outside player from what I've seen even if he isn't a squib and that run on Saturday when he took off looking to receive the ball showed this.
Some of those guys who are as young as Hansen are already built like brick shiessenhousens.

 

[mojo31]

He is an outside player from what I've seen even if he isn't a squib and that run on Saturday when he took off looking to receive the ball showed this.
Some of those guys who are as young as Hansen are already built like brick shiessenhousens.

Some are built and wont get bigger. Hansen is skinny but holds his own already in the 1 on 1s when I have seen him play. Another 10 kgs and he will be Riewdolt but much taller.

 

[Silvagnis]

Some are built and wont get bigger. Hansen is skinny but holds his own already in the 1 on 1s when I have seen him play. Another 10 kgs and he will be Riewdolt but much taller.

Good comparison to liken to him Riewoldt but he isn't a Jonathon Brown type.

 

[OZBomb]

I'm on the Lachlan Hansen bandwagon.

How is a key position player an 'outside' player? Are there "In and Under" KPP?

He takes marks in packs with regularity and plays really smart football.

It's going to be a Bonanza next year for KPP's with him Mitchell Thorp and Jack Riewoldt in the mix. Riewoldt is already playing CHF and CHB for the Clarence seniors.

 

[Pivot]

Oh man that was funny. Absolutely smashed everyone at CHB including a few big names in the TAC towrds the end of the year. Seen him play 3 times and talk about a gun.
Just turned 17 and 195cms already. Might end up being 2 meters tall and a legitimate KPP.

I'm with you on this one mojo in regards tio Merrett. Has potential but is a little slow at this stage. On Hentschel, he is not a power forward but is very flexible, tall, has a bit of freak and would be welcome at the Blues. Watts, not sold on him but his height and marking appeal. Hansen, let's not talk of him growing 5cm+ as that's a bit too far fetched. 195cm is fine and if he grows any more (which could be likely) then.....are we sure we can't change the rules in the draft and get him this year? He sounds great!