If he wins a contest or two, you can add them alongside NicNat in your list of gun rucks that Darcy has beat.
I dunno maybe Nic Nat had a hair out of place so he was lame
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I dunno maybe Nic Nat had a hair out of place so he was lame
sr36
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We've got a gun stoppage ruck and a gun around the ground ruck - it's a good situation to be in. Going to be a big challenge for the coaches to make the most of their strengths though - and probably requires Grundy to become a contributor as a forward to really work effectively.
You'd think that clunking is a skill you either have or haven't got. It's also something you'd hope Grundy would have mastered prior to being offered the best contract of any player at the club.
jmac70
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Grundy can take contested marks. Some of the commentary on his so called deficiencies is ridiculous.
Heās a dual AA ruck.
He takes very few marks in a game. Cameron is a much better contested mark. He is also a better kick, both around the ground and for goal.
jmac70
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Have to wonder what Grundy got his two AA places for.
Can only assume Cameron is a lock this year?
Grundy averages 0.8 contested marks per game.
Cox averages 2 contested marks per game
Darcy Cameron averages 2 contested marks per game.
The difference that's made to the team is very noticeable, they also get out-marked far less than Grundy. Grundy is awful above his head for a big guy.
jmac70
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Like I said earlier. Staggering to think that Grundy won two AAs when Cameron is such a better playerā¦.
Grundy got his 2AA's for a style of ruck play which he has not been able to replicate since 2019. Cameron is certainly a lock and will no doubt team with Grundy when he returns - unless Cox complicates selection by consistently playing good football. Interested to see the two rucks compete with Witts.
jmac70
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I read a lot on this board about how bad Grundy is. Very little about how good he is.
I donāt think thatās right.
He needs to recapture his 2019 form. His strength was his follow up in ruck contests and his ability to link with the mids in general play.
jmac70
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Sounds like a useful player.
Why does it matter what Grundy did 3/4 years ago? We're talking about the player he is now?
Do you judge Pendlebury now on how good he was 10 years ago?
QBday was the only game all year where Gawn was involved in less ruck contests than L.Jackson.
Gawn looks like missing at least a month of footy with his bung ankle, that he tried to play through on QBday.
Gawn WAS lame, he was battling his dodgy ankle and not covering the ground he normally would.
But yes, happy for you to add to your list of make believe - Darcy has beaten NicNat in a final, and also beat a fit and firing Gawn on QBday.
Another ruckman not renowed for his contested marking was a 2021 All Australian.
Interesting stats comparison between the 2021 AA season of Naitanui and Grundy's.
Comparison between Grundy in his last AA season (2019) vs Naitanui at the same age (2015)
Interesting stats comparison between the 2021 AA season of Naitanui and Grundy's.
Brodie Grundy and Nicholas Naitanui AFL Stats Comparison
Brodie Grundy and Nicholas Naitanui AFL Stats Comparison.
www.footywire.com
Comparison between Grundy in his last AA season (2019) vs Naitanui at the same age (2015)
Brodie Grundy and Nicholas Naitanui AFL Stats Comparison
Brodie Grundy and Nicholas Naitanui AFL Stats Comparison.
www.footywire.com
jmac70
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Of course not.
Grundyās last quarter of play whilst carrying a knee injury was very good. Evidence that he can still make important contributions to our team.
I donāt really care who plays for Collingwood just so long as we win.
Iām hoping to see a rejuvenated Grundyā¦. One that no longer has the burden of carrying the side by rucking and around the ground play for 80 percent of the time. Bringing him back to 60/40 will provide him the opportunity prove his worth.. will be a great test to see how he utilises that 40%
Again go with whatever narrative you like , you're the one making up the story.
VinnieB
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This season has been the number 2 ruckman for average clearances both centre (12th in the league) and overall clearances (24th). Number 1 at Collingwood.
Number 3 ruckman for inside 50s.
VinnieB
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yeah I agree. We should be looking forward to Grundy being able to rotate a little more with Cameron. Should be more dangerous around the ground not having to ruck over 80% of the game.
ipswichpies
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It is all very well talking up Grundy but by next year it will be 4 seasons since his AA form and the only way he can get back is by having either Cox or Cameron taking 40% of the ruck contests but as this is a thread about Cameron that what I am going to talk about.
Mollythedolly
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But Cameron was delivering very similar numbers with Grundy in the side. Does that make it a net gain or a net loss?
This is what they call āa good problem to haveā
Want to talk about Cameron? Sure. Heās a more than adequate forward so 60 percent forward time will work well when grundy comes back. Heās a good mark and a good kick. As a ruckman heās competitive but no superstar.
You could same the same now for Grundy - he is no superstar.
