Darren Glass

[DannyJ]

What a gun he is. Made Buddy look 2nd rate.

Injured last year, but has secured the best FB in the AFL position in my eyes.

Good Luck in 2009 Eagles. Finals are on the cards.

 

[mitchzz]

It's so good to have him back and fit.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Injured last year, but has secured the best FB in the AFL position in my eyes.

Surely that's Matty Scarlett.

 

[larrikin]

Surely that's Matty Scarlett.

Glass is a better stopper. Scarlett often doesn't play on the opposition's best forward.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Glass is a better stopper. Scarlett often doesn't play on the opposition's best forward.

How often?

 

[CursoryMercenary]

Souperstar!

 

[EagleMan87]

How often?

Whenever it's tactical. Scarlett is a much better playmaker, so he is often given a job on a weaker forward so he can play to his strengths.

Glass is a pure defensive backman, although his disposal has improved out of sight since 2006/07 and his defensive work is better, if that's even possible.

West Coast has always had good fortune with backmen, Glass and McKenzie are working to keep that going.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Whenever it's tactical. Scarlett is a much better playmaker, so he is often given a job on a weaker forward so he can play to his strengths.

Scarlett is a top-tier stopper.

Don't fall into the trap arguing that, just because Scarlett is more creative, he is automatically inferior in pure defensive terms.

Glass is a pure defensive backman...

Well, that's more a weakness than a strength.

Scarlett doesn't lose points for being more versatile.

 

[lewigie]

Great - more pessimism of our players.

Can you ever be optimistic about anything?

 

[EagleMan87]

Scarlett is a top-tier stopper.

Don't fall into the trap arguing that, just because Scarlett is more creative, he is automatically inferior in pure defensive terms.

Well, that's more a weakness than a strength.

Scarlett doesn't lose points for being more versatile.

I never said that Scarlett's strength is a weakness.

He is an incredible defender, but Glass is better one-on-one. Scarlett plays to his strength, which is rebound- much as McKenzie plays.

Glass is pure defence, and, as I said, his disposal and poise is better than ever.

Scarlett sure as hell doesn't lose points because he's versatile, neither does Hunter though, and we all know his strengths and the fact that they're not utililised.

Fact is, regardless of whether Scarlett gets the AA nod this year, Glass is a better defender.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Great - more pessimism of our players.

Can you ever be optimistic about anything?

Whatever, kid.

If you want to be clueless for the sake of it, avoid me.

You can't handle an objective comparison between one of our players and a gun from another club?

You call that optimism. I calling it knowing SFA.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Glass is better one-on-one.

Marginally.

But whatever points Scarlett loses on that score – not many, in my view – he makes up for in every other area.

Fact is, regardless of whether Scarlett gets the AA nod this year, Glass is a better defender.

Scarlett is a better player. In the schoolyard, I'd pick him at FB ahead of Glass.

 

[larrikin]

Marginally.

But whatever points Scarlett loses on that score – not many, in my view – he makes up for in every other area.

No, not marginally

 

[Spange]

Regardless of who is better out of Glass and Scarlett, he played a bloody awesome game and i take my hat off to him tonight. Who better to mentor Mckenzie?

Dont say scarlett

 

[lewigie]

Whatever, kid.

If you want to be clueless for the sake of it, avoid me.

You can't handle an objective comparison between one of our players and a gun from another club?

You call that optimism. I calling it knowing SFA.

When did I ever mention my opinion? How can you call me clueless?

The comparison isn't needed. Why the need to bring up that he isn't the best full back in the league, and then compare him to another player? It's just pessimism that isn't wanted or needed.

FWIW, I'd choose Glass over Scarlett.

 

[EagleMan87]

Marginally.

But whatever points Scarlett loses on that score – not many, in my view – he makes up for in every other area.

Scarlett is a better player. In the schoolyard, I'd pick him at FB ahead of Glass.

That's fine. Next time you have a chance, pick Scarlett.

Fact is we have Glass; he's our captain and a damn good one.

The best defender in the AFL by a mile when fit, as opposed to that tosspot in Scarlett, who is barely worth the premiership medal he wears.

This discussion has nothing to do with him. So stop trying to discract from the real subject- Glass.

His defence this year has literally been unparelled compared to anyone else. It's just that his his offensive capabilities are lacking.

He has AA written all over him. And now that his injuries have cleared up he'll re-assert himself and dominate as all good leaders do.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

When did I ever mention my opinion? How can you call me clueless?

You reduced a comparison between Glass and Scarlett to a contrast between pessemism and optimism.

As though arguing Scarlett's case is some kind of betrayal.

Clueless.

The comparison isn't needed. Why the need to bring up that he isn't the best full back in the league, and then compare him to another player? It's just pessimism that isn't wanted or needed.

I was responding to the OP, who called Glass the best FB in the league.

In any discussion about the best FBs around, that comparison needs to be made.

If you can't handle it, that's your problem.

 

[gx122]

Full back should play on best forward. Scarlett is a woman.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

That's fine. Next time you have a chance, pick Scarlett.

That's not much of a counter-argument, unless your point is that "Glass is an Eagle, so he's better."

Fact is we have Glass; he's our captain and a damn good one.

No doubt.

But we're discussing whether or not Scarlett is better.

This discussion has nothing to do with him. So stop trying to discract from the real subject- Glass.

Actually, the discussion has plenty to do with Scarlett.

When someone claims Glass is the best FB in the league, the next logical stage of that discussion is the comparison with other FBs who have a claim on that label i.e. Scarlett.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Full back should play on best forward. Scarlett is a woman.

Would you like us to play Glass on Riewoldt next time we play the Saints?

 

[larrikin]

Would you like us to play Glass on Riewoldt next time we play the Saints?

Not sure of your point, Glass spent large periods of the game on Reiwoldt a few weeks ago

 

[EagleMan87]

That's not much of a counter-argument, unless your point is that "Glass is an Eagle, so he's better."

No doubt.

But we're discussing whether or not Scarlett is better.

Actually, the discussion has plenty to do with Scarlett.

When someone claims Glass is the best FB in the league, the next logical stage of that discussion is the comparison with other FBs who have a claim on that label i.e. Scarlett.

Your arguement has a lot to do with Scarlett.

That means it has a few flaws.

True, my bias naturally puts Glass ahead, but on his performances this year it's hard not to.

He's finally free on the injury plague that set him back last season, and this is his first season to implement his physical strengths as well as his mental toughness. Both attributes that were lacking last season through both injury and outside pressure.

I have no doubts of your smarts. You are after all, one of the few Da Vinci types left on BF. But your lack of live footage means you can't judge every player.

Glass has been our best player this year with Cox's disposal down and Kerr's inconsistancy.

Glass has taken the step that many were complaining that he couldn't do last year. He is truly a leader of the club, and the best defender in the league.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Your arguement has a lot to do with Scarlett.

That means it has a few flaws.

My argument is that Scarlett is a better, more complete FB than Glass.

Merely saying "there are flaws with that" doesn't really count for much, does it?

True, my bias naturally puts Glass ahead, but on his performances this year it's hard not to.

Oh, right. I didn't realise it was based only on the last five weeks.

Can't we base it on the past 2-4 years?

That's what I generally do when assessing players.

But your lack of live footage means you can't judge every player.

They have TVs over here, you know?

This is dangerously close to, "you live in London, so you can't be right".

Glass has taken the step that many were complaining that he couldn't do last year. He is truly a leader of the club, and the best defender in the league.

Mate, you're just repeating yourself without demonstrating anything new.

Just saying, "Glass is the best", isn't very persuasive.

 

[lewigie]

You reduced a comparison between Glass and Scarlett to a contrast between pessemism and optimism.

As though arguing Scarlett's case is some kind of betrayal.

Clueless.

It was a comparison that didn't need to be made. The OP was obviously, well basically a compliment to one of our players, which you've turned into a pessimistic comparison between a player from our team and another player.

Not a betrayal, no. But unwanted pessimism, yes.

I was responding to the OP, who called Glass the best FB in the league.

In any discussion about the best FBs around, that comparison needs to be made.

If you can't handle it, that's your problem.

When was this ever a discussion about the best fullbacks around until you turned it into one? The comparison didn't need to be made, and you were just picking an argument. Coming onto the Eagles board, full of unwarranted manlove, and telling us that our players aren't as good as anothers is basically trolling.

It's not that I can't handle it, it's just unwanted criticism and pessimism!

EDIT: Oh, and Glass plays on the best FF out on the field. If that's Kosi, or Riewoldt. He's a better stopper, and offence isn't the greatest part of his game which noone is against, meaning he stays deep instead of playing further up the ground.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Not sure of your point, Glass spent large periods of the game on Reiwoldt a few weeks ago

Not our best match-up, though, is he?

Particularly when Riewoldt leads all the way up to the wing. It drags Glass away from goals.

My point is that some teams' best forward mightn't be a suitable match-up for Glass.

Riewoldt probably isn't the most effective example, but let's say we come up against a team whose best forward is a Phil Matera-type. Should Glass still play on him?