Draft Expert Davo-27's 2025 Draft Thread

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Outside of Basil Hart & Wes Walley are their any other small crumbing forwards you like the look of for this year?

Keen to keep an eye on them as it's one of the most glaring things missing on our list.

WCE have NGA Tyler Williams from Swans
Deadly left foot, very accurate set shot, no right side
Genuine crumbing small forward very very quick and has good pressure
Tank needs work he is under 180cm tends to stay in forward 50 and not leave
He will be available to draft as WCE have to many options this year
Wes Walley 185cm
Jake Caton 184cm
Kobe Evans 188cm
Charlie Banfield 189cm
So those 4 will all be drafted
So Tyler would be the 5th with list spots at a premium he may miss out
can see other clubs bid on him and WCE don't match

 

[briztoon]

Outside of Basil Hart & Wes Walley are their any other small crumbing forwards you like the look of for this year?

Keen to keep an eye on them as it's one of the most glaring things missing on our list.

Lions have Raphael Geesu. He's a Kosi Pickett style of small forward. Probably sitting 3rd or 4th amongst our academy kids for this year.

 

[Davo-27]

Fair call. How do you see this crop compared to previous years? Stronger top 5 compared to last year? Or too early to tell?

i think theres less depth than last year(last year i had well over a 100 players to watch), but potentially more star value at the top handful

Outside of Basil Hart & Wes Walley are their any other small crumbing forwards you like the look of for this year?

Keen to keep an eye on them as it's one of the most glaring things missing on our list.

i forgot to add Raphael Geesu from Bris, then theres medium forwards like Koby Evans and Charlie Banfield from WA, which the other guys mentioned, theres a small forward from Calder Hussein El Achkar (Ess NGA), maybe Kobe Williams from Western Jets (Haw FS/ WB NGA) most are club aligned as FS or NGA, i believe all of the WA ones are FS or NGA, hopefully a couple emerge next year.

 

[halfback dasher]

Hay mate
What’s your take on Hawks trying to snare Greeves as an NGA

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Hay mate
What’s your take on Hawks trying to snare Greeves as an NGA

Precedent says it shouldn't happen
Has not been apart of there academy since the age of 15

 

[Hawkspot]

Precedent says it shouldn't happen
Has not been apart of there academy since the age of [emoji637][emoji6[emoji640][emoji637]]

What precedent is that? He is part of the academy. I’m not aware of the since the age of [emoji637][emoji6[emoji640][emoji637]] rule.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Precedent says it shouldn't happen
Has not been apart of there academy since the age of 15

Yeah thats not the rule

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Yeah thats not the rule

It is for WCE so it should be the same for Hawthorn

Eligibility​

• Players aged between 11-18 years (Born 2006-2013)
• Players must be registered with the Naitanui Academy by their 15th year, to be eligible for any draft concessions through the AFL NGA Program
• African/Asian – where a player or parent is born in an African or Asian country
• Culturally and Linguistically Diverse (CaLD) – where a player or both parents are born in a non-English speaking country
• Indigenous – where a player identifies as indigenous

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

It is for WCE so it should be the same for Hawthorn

Eligibility​

• Players aged between 11-18 years (Born 2006-2013)
• Players must be registered with the Naitanui Academy by their 15th year, to be eligible for any draft concessions through the AFL NGA Program
• African/Asian – where a player or parent is born in an African or Asian country
• Culturally and Linguistically Diverse (CaLD) – where a player or both parents are born in a non-English speaking country
• Indigenous – where a player identifies as indigenous

Unsure if this also applies to VIC clubs, but given you and Freo share a whole state between you (vs sharing it 10 ways), would make sense you have more limitations.

 

[HawthornHawk]

It is for WCE so it should be the same for Hawthorn

Eligibility​

• Players aged between 11-18 years (Born 2006-2013)
• Players must be registered with the Naitanui Academy by their 15th year, to be eligible for any draft concessions through the AFL NGA Program
• African/Asian – where a player or parent is born in an African or Asian country
• Culturally and Linguistically Diverse (CaLD) – where a player or both parents are born in a non-English speaking country
• Indigenous – where a player identifies as indigenous

Hawthorn has a Naitanui Academy?

 

[KissKiss]

It is for WCE so it should be the same for Hawthorn

Eligibility​

• Players aged between 11-18 years (Born 2006-2013)
• Players must be registered with the Naitanui Academy by their 15th year, to be eligible for any draft concessions through the AFL NGA Program
• African/Asian – where a player or parent is born in an African or Asian country
• Culturally and Linguistically Diverse (CaLD) – where a player or both parents are born in a non-English speaking country
• Indigenous – where a player identifies as indigenous

I don't really get the difference in points 3 and 4. Why does the 4th point need both parents born elsewhere?

 

[WatWouldCyrilDo]

Us requesting to add Greeves to our academy is exactly the same as Essendon with Kako and North with Sanders a couple of years back, which were both approved by the AFL. There's no way the AFL could decline the request if precedent and the existing rules are used. AFL would need to make a change.

 

[tigs2010]

Us requesting to add Greeves to our academy is exactly the same as Essendon with Kako and North with Sanders a couple of years back, which were both approved by the AFL. There's no way the AFL could decline the request if precedent and the existing rules are used. AFL would need to make a change.

Wasn't Kako in the academy for awhile? They changed the matching system and they were able to get him despite the early bid?

Not sure on Sanders.

Has Greeves been training with Hawthorn's academy?

 

[Eric Shin]

Us requesting to add Greeves to our academy is exactly the same as Essendon with Kako and North with Sanders a couple of years back, which were both approved by the AFL. There's no way the AFL could decline the request if precedent and the existing rules are used. AFL would need to make a change.

Except Sanders wasn't approved


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[HawthornHawk]

Except Sanders wasn't approved


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Top prospect joins North's Academy, AFL mulls priority access

Ryley Sanders has been added to North Melbourne's Academy list

www.afl.com.au

 

[Giant Strides]

Top prospect joins North's Academy, AFL mulls priority access

Ryley Sanders has been added to North Melbourne's Academy list

www.afl.com.au

Then why is he running around at the Bulldogs?

 

[HawthornHawk]

Then why is he running around at the Bulldogs?

Because in that draft year VIC clubs were only able to match bids on academy kids outside the top 40.

 

[Giant Strides]

Because in that draft year VIC clubs were only able to match bids on academy kids outside the top 40.

OK, that's correct, thanks for reminding me. So, it will come back to whether here's a "time in academy" requirement. Certainly, that has been applied to northern academies to rule out kids in the past.

As usual, VFL House playing fast and loose with rules based on the "vibe".

 

[HawthornHawk]

OK, that's correct, thanks for reminding me. So, it will come back to whether here's a "time in academy" requirement. Certainly, that has been applied to northern academies to rule out kids in the past.

As usual, VFL House playing fast and loose with rules based on the "vibe".

I don't see how they can allow Sanders to join North's academy in Grand Final week but not allow Greeves to join Hawthorn's when he's trained at the club already.

Whether he gets to Hawthorn will come down to whether the AFL change the goalposts on matching bids like they did in August like year.

 

[WCE777]

I don't see how they can allow Sanders to join North's academy in Grand Final week but not allow Greeves to join Hawthorn's when he's trained at the club already.

Whether he gets to Hawthorn will come down to whether the AFL change the goalposts on matching bids like they did in August like year.

AFL shouldn't have approved Sanders either, not within the rules of NGA's that other clubs have to adhere too.
How long has Greaves trained with Hawks as part of their NGA?

 

[briztoon]

Us requesting to add Greeves to our academy is exactly the same as Essendon with Kako and North with Sanders a couple of years back, which were both approved by the AFL. There's no way the AFL could decline the request if precedent and the existing rules are used. AFL would need to make a change.

No, it's not.

Sanders was with the North tassie academy since he was 12. And I'm pretty sure Kako was in Essondon's academy from at least 14.

You are trying to add a kid at the 11th hour. With the process started the year after he was an U16 AA.

 

[briztoon]

I don't see how they can allow Sanders to join North's academy in Grand Final week but not allow Greeves to join Hawthorn's when he's trained at the club already.

Sanders was in North's tassie academy from when he was 12. Think he first played with the flying kangaroos (an indigenous team) when he was 14 or 15. What North was trying to do was get the AFL to waive the bid under 40 requirement for him. In effect trying to get a high end priority pick.

Whether he gets to Hawthorn will come down to whether the AFL change the goalposts on matching bids like they did in August like year.

 

[bluespooner]

Sanders was in North's tassie academy from when he was 12. Think he first played with the flying kangaroos (an indigenous team) when he was 14 or 15. What North was trying to do was get the AFL to waive the bid under 40 requirement for him. In effect trying to get a high end priority pick.

That wasn't the case.

Sanders was only linked to north's nga in the final year of his involvement in the U18's competition. THe fact that he qualified in the first place for north's nga was stretching the boundaries of the rules as he had boarded at Melbourne Grammar School for 2022 and 2023 (2023 being his draft year) and had been playing for Sandringham Dragons.

 

[briztoon]

That wasn't the case.

Sanders was only linked to north's nga in the final year of his involvement in the U18's competition. THe fact that he qualified in the first place for north's nga was stretching the boundaries of the rules as he had boarded at Melbourne Grammar School for 2022 and 2023 (2023 being his draft year) and had been playing for Sandringham Dragons.

I didn’t say he was a North nga, I said he was part of Norths Tassie academy. Many non nga kids were part of Norths Tassie academy.

Boarding in Melbourne doesn’t mean much, seeing as many of the big Melbourne private schools are throwing scholarships at a lot of vic country, nsw, qld and Tassie kids.

If you were recruited out of another clubs academy, but your parents still reside in that academies zone, you’re still tied to your original club.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

I was completely right
Have to be registered at 15 with nga to be drafted under the rules