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Diego said:
Murray Cliche reply #345

the "let me show how easy it is to shoot you down" comment

Join Date: Sep 2002
Club: Collingwood
Other Teams: Collingwood
Location: Frankston

Unless its some sort of joke that no one gets apart from you?

So by your definition if I wrote Washington DC, then that must be where I am from.
See, like I said you know absolutely nothing, and it is oh so easy to prove.
 
blangerang said:
everybody has problems but you know what the difference is between you and everyone else? You go on and on about your little problems and expect us all to support and sympathise for you. You probably have no difference to the problems 99% of other girls your age have. Nobody wants to hear how your life is so bad just because your parents don't understand you and bla bla bla
Wow, your Mum must be so proud.

Just goes to show how misunderstood this illness is, that so many people think it impossible for a teenager to suffer depression, because they didn't, or because a person that age problems must be trivial.
 
Murray said:
So by your definition if I wrote Washington DC, then that must be where I am from.
See, like I said you know absolutely nothing, and it is oh so easy to prove.

Why write Frankston? Why not leave it blank? What are you trying to achieve?

And there you go with another cliched reply. Man you are one boring person. You don't dabble in politics do you? Actually from your replies on S&C board no.
 
blangerang said:
It's not that we dont understand that teenagers have depression it's that teenage depression is 99% of the time stupid things as compared to serious depression which you can develop from work. family etc..
******** off, how do you think teenagers feel when their parents split up and one of them doesnt want to see them? teenagers as myself get depressed and if they dont know how to deal with it then can get depression. ******** anyone can get depression age is not an issue.

teenagers know people who die most have jobs and most of my friends pay for all their things bar what is bought for the family eg food, utilities, it doesnt matter if you compare peoples problems and say that theirs isnt important enough to warrant them to be called depressed is just plain stupidity.
 

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OneEyedHawk said:
Wow, your Mum must be so proud.

Just goes to show how misunderstood this illness is, that so many people think it impossible for a teenager to suffer depression, because they didn't, or because a person that age problems must be trivial.

I guess a lot of cynicism stems from the way teenagers behave and how most times many kids are just attention seeking and use depression as an excuse.
 
Diego said:
Why write Frankston? Why not leave it blank? What are you trying to achieve?

And there you go with another cliched reply. Man you are one boring person. You don't dabble in politics do you? Actually from your replies on S&C board no.
you have no idea really just give up, just because your pea size brain cannot comprehend teenagers with depression, you have no idea what its like now for someone in their teens. Times change the world you grew up in is gone and we have different issue's to what you had
 
Diego said:
I guess a lot of cynicism stems from the way teenagers behave and how most times many kids are just attention seeking and use depression as an excuse.
******** off you have been complaining about how hard it is for an adult to cope in the world just trying to get by but of course thats not attention seeking.
 
beaver's army said:
you have no idea really just give up, just because your pea size brain cannot comprehend teenagers with depression, you have no idea what its like now for someone in their teens. Times change the world you grew up in is gone and we have different issue's to what you had

Like what? Teenagers have everything at their fingertips. You had depression when I was a kid, you had to deal with or shut up. These days there are so many places a person can go to help.

One thing that’s changed is the way teenagers have become self appreciating selfish little twats. That I agree on.
 
beaver's army said:
******** off you have been complaining about how hard it is for an adult to cope in the world just trying to get by but of course thats not attention seeking.

I would be depressed as well if i followed Richmond.
 
Diego said:
Like what? Teenagers have everything at their fingertips. You had depression when I was a kid, you had to deal with or shut up. These days there are so many places a person can go to help.

One thing that’s changed is the way teenagers have become self appreciating selfish little twats. That I agree on.
Yes thats true, with all the gay bitch little emo's around now. But remember that some actually have problems aswell, and I think we need to stop stereotyping all teenagers as little whining pricks & bitches.
 
how about not having your parents at home or not caring about you and having them split up after years of none stop fighting, when you grew up all of your friends had the same things as you, these days i have little compared to my friends, they have alot of time to go out whereas i have to stay at home and look after my sister because my parents have to work. i guess that your dad made enough to get by.
 

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Brittany said:
Yes thats true, with all the gay bitch little emo's around now. But remember that some actually have problems aswell, and I think we need to stop stereotyping all teenagers as little whining pricks & bitches.

Yeah and that’s why cynical arsewipes like myself find it hard when a teenager screams "i am depressed" and when you ask them why they reply with something trivial.

I publicly apologize to you for being so rude btw. :)
 
Diego said:
Yeah and that’s why cynical arsewipes like myself find it hard when a teenager screams "i am depressed" and when you ask them why they reply with something trivial.

I publicly apologize to you for being so rude btw. :)
you finally open your eyes.
 
Scotty13, firstly as has been said already here you simply must get help. As has also been said there are ways of doing this on the cheap though they may not be as good as the service you would get otherwise ie some Universities offer free or cheap counselling services but as generally students are offering the service its not always great. Here are a few points that I hope will help;

  • Some sourses say as many as 1 in 3 people may be genetically susceptible to depression. Levels of susceptibility vary, some people may never have a problem with it as they never reach a low enough ebb to encounter it. Others strike it early on and never seem to get their head above its surface.
  • This is a life long issue. Its not something you 'get better' from. You may win the battle by confronting it, understanding it and getting the better of it through good management however. This is what you must do.
  • Generally, as has been mentioned, it is brought on by underlying issues. Examine your life from the ground up and make the changes that will make you feel better about yourself and where your headed with your life. This isnt always easy as some of the behaviours may be ingrained ie too much time at the PC ;p .
  • Hmm, Doctors. Take what they say with a grain of salt. They are generally quick to medicate slow to solve the real problem. Anti-depressants may be helpful but they can also have side effects like nausea etc. Get more exercise and work on getting your head right and you wont need them, they should only be used as a stepping stone IMHO.
  • Take responsibility for your health. If there is one thing I ve learned is that sitting around waiting for Doctors/friends/relatives to solve your problems is a sure way to fail. I know because I tried it for a long time. The driving force behind this must be you. I know this isnt easy when your depressed but you must firstly WANT to feel good about things and stop punishing yourself.
  • Stop the negative self talk. Not everything is your fault.
  • If you dont already have this, find something to get excited about. Something to give you drive always helps as this is always wanting when depression strikes.
  • Dont over sleep. What your actually doing is hiding from reality. Get out, get some sunshine and feel the wind on your face. Think positive, talk positive and act positive; even when you dont feel like it.
  • Get a pet if u dont have one and your situation allows. Pets are great for ppl with depression.
Good luck with it all buddy.

nb/ Just thought I'd add this tid bit. It is my firm believe that modern western society provides an environment in which depression thrives. Previously people were too busy just trying to survive to have time to stop and think it they had depression, though it was not doubt still present in smaller numbers. The reason it is so prevalent today is a combination of factors including;

1. Doctors. Its being over prescribed because medical companys are brain washing Doctors into selling as much medicine as they can. Can u say `kick backs' + `bombardment from student days' = `huge profits for medical suppliers'.
2. Life style. Poor diets, lack of exercise, lack of sunshine, too much TV/Computer time = increased risk of depression.
3. Chemicals, radiation etc. Our bodies are being bombarded with a larger array substances and energys than ever before. The environment we live in today is not the one our bodies evolved in over millions of years. There have got to be side effects, responses to this altered environment. Cause and effect. This is one of them.
 
Diego said:
Like what? Teenagers have everything at their fingertips. You had depression when I was a kid, you had to deal with or shut up. These days there are so many places a person can go to help.

One thing that’s changed is the way teenagers have become self appreciating selfish little twats. That I agree on.

EDIT: I see you've changed your view
 
Diego said:
Yeah and that’s why cynical arsewipes like myself find it hard when a teenager screams "i am depressed" and when you ask them why they reply with something trivial.

I publicly apologize to you for being so rude btw. :)
Lol thats ok & I accept your apology :)
 

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beaver's army said:
just jumped on the bandwagon then.

Next tell me its the swans who are ruining the game atm with their uber flooding. Seems to go hand in hand with almost anything spruted out by most melbournites these days in reagrds to the swans.
 
Depression is a deep and dark insidious disease that affects all walks of life and all ages. Teenage suicides through depression are a known fact. It's not because they are upset a teen boy band have split up but a disease.
It can cause you to withdraw from society and it isnt agrophobia , it can worsen and worsen until it becomes hard to go to work , then it becomes hard to get in the car to go to work and then it can even become to hard to even get out of bed.
Simplistic , narrow minded people think otherwise.
Many people can manage it with help through their peer group. Many people can manage it through professional help and many people manage it through medication.People often use all three plus more.
Some people don't cope at all.
I have lived with depression for 7 or 8 years with it active and many more where I didn't realise what was wrong with me. The hard times were almost unbearable and I do not know how I am still here today. But thankfully I am because now I have a 'happy' life.
It comes back and sometimes it comes back hard. Sometimes the depth of the depression is not the worst but the start when you know what is coming and want to stop it before it starts.
Don't be so ********ing immature and naiive as to scoff as someone else problems without knowing what they are facing every second of every minute in their day.
 
zebbitty said:
Depression is a deep and dark insidious disease that affects all walks of life and all ages. Teenage suicides through depression are a known fact. It's not because they are upset a teen boy band have split up but a disease.
It can cause you to withdraw from society and it isnt agrophobia , it can worsen and worsen until it becomes hard to go to work , then it becomes hard to get in the car to go to work and then it can even become to hard to even get out of bed.
Simplistic , narrow minded people think otherwise.
Many people can manage it with help through their peer group. Many people can manage it through professional help and many people manage it through medication.People often use all three plus more.
Some people don't cope at all.
I have lived with depression for 7 or 8 years with it active and many more where I didn't realise what was wrong with me. The hard times were almost unbearable and I do not know how I am still here today. But thankfully I am because now I have a 'happy' life.
It comes back and sometimes it comes back hard. Sometimes the depth of the depression is not the worst but the start when you know what is coming and want to stop it before it starts.
Don't be so ********ing immature and naiive as to scoff as someone else problems without knowing what they are facing every second of every minute in their day.

:thumbsu: Well Said :)
 
Oh yes, being able to eat and not have soliders wanting to kill you knocking on your door is nothing compared to depression.

GAIN SOME PERSPECTIVE PEOPLE.
 
Roonaldo! said:
Oh yes, being able to eat and not have soliders wanting to kill you knocking on your door is nothing compared to depression.

GAIN SOME PERSPECTIVE PEOPLE.

That is narrow minded bull********!!!

Let's not go from extreme to extreme, and just because some one else has bigger problems to deal with doesn't make my own any less significant!!!
After all, I can't control what is happening in some civil war in Africa or the Middle East!

It has nothing to do with perspective, neither is it selfish.

Depression is a common proble, braught upon by our society no doubt. Chemical balance in the brain etc. To laugh at some one elses problem is ridiculous, seing people suffering from depression is a sorry sight. It is often those who you least expect and have everything etc.

To say things like depression doesn't exist, along the lines of stress doesn't exists aka Stan Zemanek is ridiculous and naive.
 
Brittany said:
I really think for you people that don't think teenagers can have depression to actually see that people my age can have real problems too. I know my brother, who is 11 had very severe depression, and there are more and more cases like this now. So please, don't just think that we are all emo and are only saying these things for attention..BECAUSE WERE NOT!
Then your parents should be shot , or at least smacked upside the head. HOW CAN AN 11 YEAR OLD HAVE DEPRESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Can they not see what they are doing if this is the case?
 

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