What about ? +? Or ? as well.jrussell said:I am the only one
I dont want to have Fred on my case,so i havnt put names to the ?s.
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What about ? +? Or ? as well.jrussell said:I am the only one
Bombers 2003 said:What about ? +? Or ? as well.
I dont want to have Fred on my case,so i havnt put names to the ?s.
crudbucket said:Correct, we see BIRDS every day. Birds having evolved from the 'saurs.
No human has ever seen the creatures they evolved from.
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Muffo said:Yeah, they are ok i suppose.
CharlieG said:Actually, Bombers 2003 may correct me on this, but the way I understand is that all species that are derived from the first species that is considered to be a 'dinosaur' are defined as dinosaurs. In that case, all birds are dinosaurs.
MightyFighting said:That's the first I've heard of that. It sounds more like creationist rhetoric to me.

Being in the same monophyletic is not the same as being in the same species, so being in the dinosaurs' monophyletic is not the same as being a dinosaur.CharlieG said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cladistics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monophyletic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dinosaur_classifications
I'm no science student, but this seems to be the most common way of classifying species now. Note the location of the class 'Aves' in the third article.
Indeed that is correct,it's the cladistic system.But as i said earlier,not all palaeontologists agree with birds being descended from Dinosaurs,it's a general consensus.CharlieG said:Actually, Bombers 2003 may correct me on this, but the way I understand is that all species that are derived from the first species that is considered to be a 'dinosaur' are defined as dinosaurs. In that case, all birds are dinosaurs.
I *think* it's called the cladistic system of classification.
Not at all,i think if you read Storrs Olsen's work or Hopsons work you'd know.MightyFighting said:That's the first I've heard of that. It sounds more like creationist rhetoric to me.
Correct,and that's where people confuse Plesiosaurs and Pterosaurs as Dinosaurs.No use talking of Orders,Families etc either,most people dont understand the concepts.MightyFighting said:Being in the same monophyletic is not the same as being in the same species, so being in the dinosaurs' monophyletic is not the same as being a dinosaur.
MightyFighting said:Being in the same monophyletic is not the same as being in the same species, so being in the dinosaurs' monophyletic is not the same as being a dinosaur.

