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tigerpremiers said:
he got us to a prelim final.it amazes me that everyone says how bad spud was..we have had a lot of coaches worse than spud such as.sproule.walls.gieshen patterson bartlett.none of whom got us to finals.sure spud wasnt good but he wasnt the worst we have had at richmond.

So what. Everyone of them got what they deserved. But none of them were our longest serving coaches. A couple of them were premiership players, not losers at the club with the longest losing streak ever to play football. And at least 3 of those coached the team after the club was at its peak and when it was running out of money and struggling financially.
 
tigerpremiers said:
he got us to a prelim final.it amazes me that everyone says how bad spud was..we have had a lot of coaches worse than spud such as.sproule.walls.gieshen patterson bartlett.none of whom got us to finals.sure spud wasnt good but he wasnt the worst we have had at richmond.

:) NOT sure Pual Sproule qualifies. Am 90% certain that most games he coached, he was not in attendance. A true shocker and rightfully shown the door after one season.

:)
 
IDGAF said:
Scapegoat my @rse ..

Just telling it like it is

# Poor strategist , no plan "B" whatsoever
# Could not even got the players fit
# Could not get his foot out of his own mouth , to such an extent he was gagged
# Had us all believing we were in premiership mode and thus assembled the worst list of recycled duds the league has seen just to "Top Up" .

# Poor strategist , no plan "B" whatsoever *Fair Assessment
# Could not even got the players fit *Not His Job. Also Debatable
# Could not get his foot out of his own mouth , to such an extent he was gagged *Did Talk $hit
# Had us all believing we were in premiership mode and thus assembled the worst list of recycled duds the league has seen just to "Top Up"
*If you’re delusional then you’re delusional but no spuds fault.

Having said all that I don’t think he was a very good coach but I along with brewse am sick of people writing bull$hit to add weight to an argument. It leaves you with absolutely f#$k all credibility!
 

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breswe said:
Keep On Sacking Coaches Thats The Answer Hey. Players Continue To Take No Responsibility.supporters Just Follow Like Sheep, Blame The Coach. Get The Best Coach And Win A Flag Thats The Logic. Have A Look At Collingwood, Essendon And Carlton Know. Look Were They Are At. Real Great Coaches With Sh#t Players. Richmond Supporters Mentality Sack The Coach. Don't Look At Recruiting Officers Or Blame The Players. You Foolish,insipid, Rabble.
breswe, I would suggest the players have been blamed to a fair degree on here, just scroll through some previous posts over the last year, they haven't been spared form criticism. Frawley and the recruiting manager, Beck I think, have both paid the price, as neither are there any longer. So to the players, as we've delisted/traded close to half of the team that existed in 2001, with more to come at the end of next year.
 
I hold the man responsible for our on field performance because regardless of which individual does which part, as Senior Coach that is what you take overall responsibility for and are paid accordingly! It is an absolute cop out to say that after a full 5 years in the job with full support from all and sundry that it is the players responsibility! Utter cr@p sorry. The Senior Coach has the ability to change the list or the players on it or their attitude or any other component of the players he sees fit, in order to produce a result.

The humiliating manner in which he subserviently worshipped his previous club wil haunt me forever. I have never seen that done ever before or since by any club!

The only area of shared responsibility here in my opinion if that of the Richmond Board who appointed someone who was largely incompetent in the first place with few credentials and no track record and then persisted with him for well beyond a reasonable time.

As far as I'm concerned the Assistant Coach, (of Defenders) at Melbourne has finally gravitated to a role he has the acumen to manage. I wish him a very long career there!
 
Richmond were looking for stability and still looking for stability eg tw has a five year contract. you don't just sack coaches, they are overrated. p.roos did not even do an apprentiship. he's got hard working players. again so called good coaches pagan, malthouse and sheedy were are their clubs know?
 
breswe said:
Richmond were looking for stability and still looking for stability eg tw has a five year contract. you don't just sack coaches, they are overrated. p.roos did not even do an apprentiship. he's got hard working players. again so called good coaches pagan, malthouse and sheedy were are their clubs know?

Dunno about you fella, but where I have worked, if you dont produce in 5 years they start sacking people! Why should a footy coach be any different! I would suggest at his level of remuneration perhaps 3 years would have been more than reasonable as it would in the corporate world. Just because he spoke like a bogun doesnt mean he was being paid to act like one. If this man was drawing $500Kpa for Packer and didnt deliver how long do you think he would last?

Contrast is...in 1 year with TW we are more stable than in recent living memory, on the field, off the field and in the media. I reckon we are "cherry ripe" in fact!
 
True Thylacine said:
Dunno about you fella, but where I have worked, if you dont produce in 5 years they start sacking people! Why should a footy coach be any different! I would suggest at his level of remuneration perhaps 3 years would have been more than reasonable as it would in the corporate world. Just because he spoke like a bogun doesnt mean he was being paid to act like one. If this man was drawing $500Kpa for Packer and didnt deliver how long do you think he would last?

Contrast is...in 1 year with TW we are more stable than in recent living memory, on the field, off the field and in the media. I reckon we are "cherry ripe" in fact!

:) Cherry ripe

He, he, he, he. Love it!!!!!!!

Up there with Ayresy's "at the end of the day".

:)
 
breswe said:
Keep On Sacking Coaches Thats The Answer Hey. Players Continue To Take No Responsibility.supporters Just Follow Like Sheep, Blame The Coach. Get The Best Coach And Win A Flag Thats The Logic. Have A Look At Collingwood, Essendon And Carlton Know. Look Were They Are At. Real Great Coaches With Sh#t Players. Richmond Supporters Mentality Sack The Coach. Don't Look At Recruiting Officers Or Blame The Players. You Foolish,insipid, Rabble.

The coach has final say on recruitment and on players. If players are not playing well, its his decision to get new ones.

Frawley not only persisted with bad players, he brought even worse ones to the club like King, Szille and Hudson, and he wrecked the promising careers of young players

You dont have a clue about coaching, foootball or the Rochmond footy club
 
breswe said:
Richmond were looking for stability and still looking for stability eg tw has a five year contract. you don't just sack coaches, they are overrated. p.roos did not even do an apprentiship. he's got hard working players. again so called good coaches pagan, malthouse and sheedy were are their clubs know?

You're saying Frawley has a better coaching record than Malthouse and Sheedy? You really are a t ool
 
breswe said:
Agree my friend unfortunately we have a few small minded shallow supporters.

U make me sick,

Whats funny is your also wrong.

Who are u to label those with the correct opinion of Frawley as small minded
when u yourself offer only ideals and no solution.

You're a bigger part of the problem than u r aware,

Please,keep going though.
It's amusing watching you make a clusterfukc of yourself.
 

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Junkie said:
# Poor strategist , no plan "B" whatsoever *Fair Assessment
# Could not even got the players fit *Not His Job. Also Debatable
# Could not get his foot out of his own mouth , to such an extent he was gagged *Did Talk $hit
# Had us all believing we were in premiership mode and thus assembled the worst list of recycled duds the league has seen just to "Top Up"
*If you’re delusional then you’re delusional but no spuds fault.

Having said all that I don’t think he was a very good coach but I along with brewse am sick of people writing bull$hit to add weight to an argument. It leaves you with absolutely f#$k all credibility!
And do you want to know what ...I`m sick of the "junkmiester" chiming in with his little "Cameo`s" once in the blue moon as if he is the "footy angel" sent down from he heavens to teach us a little lesson whenever he deems fit to grace us with his presence

Who the f..k do you barrack for anyway OH sage one ???? :confused:

Quantify this one Einstien ...

"if you delusional your delusional , not Spuds fault " :confused: ... whats that mean ?

Are you saying that it is not a fault to be delusional or not ? Cant work that out .

If someone says something is "A" ... and then i say , no , i reckon it is "B" and then list reasons for forming that opinion ... Why is that "bullschit " leaving f..k all credibility .

.... and if it is not the coaches job to get the players fit , whose is it and where does the buck stop ?

The funniest thing is you pretty well agree with everything i said

If Jehovah hasn`t wisked you off to deal with some of the worlds other problems we look forward to your divine presence soon
 
1980 said:
So what. Everyone of them got what they deserved. But none of them were our longest serving coaches. A couple of them were premiership players, not losers at the club with the longest losing streak ever to play football. And at least 3 of those coached the team after the club was at its peak and when it was running out of money and struggling financially.
spud was a poor coach agreed but no where near our worst.get over it people move on wallace is the coach now frawley is in the past.lets look to the future.
 

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demon's have had enough, they have missed their time on the premisership clock and dont want to waste any more time than nessecary, bolstering their stocks with the best young talent next year.
Also , ingenious planning by Daniher, with the Spud there, and with Spud's top shelf reputation that most of the footy public knows he possesses in the form of strategies, will undoubtedly deflect any critisism. Will also bring some light comedy to the demons supporters in an effort to loosen those MCC ties. Its all about entertainment fellas!!!;)
 
CoggaRules said:
demon's have had enough, they have missed their time on the premisership clock and dont want to waste any more time than nessecary, bolstering their stocks with the best young talent next year.
Also , ingenious planning by Daniher, with the Spud there, and with Spud's top shelf reputation that most of the footy public knows he possesses in the form of strategies, will undoubtedly deflect any critisism. Will also bring some light comedy to the demons supporters in an effort to loosen those MCC ties. Its all about entertainment fellas!!!;)
Correct on both fronts

Be interesting to see how Porky Broderick goes
 
IDGAF said:
And do you want to know what ...I`m sick of the "junkmiester" chiming in with his little "Cameo`s" once in the blue moon as if he is the "footy angel" sent down from he heavens to teach us a little lesson whenever he deems fit to grace us with his presence

Who the f..k do you barrack for anyway OH sage one ???? :confused:

Quantify this one Einstien ...

"if you delusional your delusional , not Spuds fault " :confused: ... whats that mean ?

Are you saying that it is not a fault to be delusional or not ? Cant work that out .

If someone says something is "A" ... and then i say , no , i reckon it is "B" and then list reasons for forming that opinion ... Why is that "bullschit " leaving f..k all credibility .

.... and if it is not the coaches job to get the players fit , whose is it and where does the buck stop ?

The funniest thing is you pretty well agree with everything i said

If Jehovah hasn`t wisked you off to deal with some of the worlds other problems we look forward to your divine presence soon

So I'm not allowed to have an opinion?

I don't barrack for anyone you clown!

In regards to the delusional comment, my point was if you thought the club was in 'premiership mode' then you were deluded and Spud doesn't control your thoughts! Did I explain that simply enough for you?

As for the A & B dribble, I have no problem with opinions. I just don’t rate people posting crap to add weight to their argument.

The Conditioning Team would be held responsible for getting the players fit. They write the running/weights/cross training programs not the coach. I don’t think you’re correct about the fitness of the players whilst Frawley was there as their time trials/testing would rank very similar to most teams. I would say his game plan along with poor skills (many turnovers) made the team look unfit.


The only thing I was whisked away for was to find an object large enough to insert into your mums beef curtains........luckily she was happy to handle my manhood!!
 
well, we need to look at the positive side of Spud's appointment.
He is the opposition now gang, if he thought we were feral because we eat our own, Spud you aint seen nothing yet my man. You cant win, you lose we will pay out on you, you lose, we take even greater delight in paying out on you. Spud, forever and a day you just dont know how to make the right move do you? ;)
 

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