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always right said:
Why didn't you start a thread on Aker? He was deplorable today. Or what about Cross and Gia? Never seen those two have quieter games. Where was Gilbee when the game was put beyond us in the third quarter? What about our blokes in the centre who let the Eagles waltz out of the middle time and time again? Shouldnt the thread be about Eade and the lack of structure in the team all day? And why didn't he place Picken as a hard tag on Kerr all match instead of just the last quarter?

I agree that Eagelton had a shocker but his first three games have been really good. I think he is one player that should share the blame for today....but he's one of many who had poor games. Starting a negative thread about Eagleton is so predictable on this board.
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Maybe. There comes a time when you have to draw a line in the sand.

Tell me what Eagleton offers the team now? He makes poor decisions, turned the ball over, doesn't kick goals when he needs to.

OKeefe had a ripper apparently in the VFL. Surely we reward good form and effort, and those who don't perform at AFL level should be dropped.

No where did I blame Eagleton for the loss. Actually, no one is saying he's the reason we lost, but he didn't do what is expected of a senior footballer. He was very poor today. He may not have been alone, but the other guys you mention have more recent runs on the board IMO.

Eagleton isn't a big hard ball winner, he's not a great tackler (although that has improved), he's in the team to run, and kick long and accurately. Today he ran. That was it.
 
anthj said:
This is so typical on this forum, I still don't understand how a 1st gamer is going to have more of an impact than Eagleton. Poor form by bashing Eagleton when it was an OVERALL poor effort today! :thumbsdown:
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So why draft anyone? Let's just play the same 22 each week, cause 1st gamers are no good - right?
 
Gooka said:
Maybe. There comes a time when you have to draw a line in the sand.

Tell me what Eagleton offers the team now? He makes poor decisions, turned the ball over, doesn't kick goals when he needs to.

OKeefe had a ripper apparently in the VFL. Surely we reward good form and effort, and those who don't perform at AFL level should be dropped.

No where did I blame Eagleton for the loss. Actually, no one is saying he's the reason we lost, but he didn't do what is expected of a senior footballer. He was very poor today. He may not have been alone, but the other guys you mention have more recent runs on the board IMO.

Eagleton isn't a big hard ball winner, he's not a great tackler (although that has improved), he's in the team to run, and kick long and accurately. Today he ran. That was it.
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and he was good the first few weeks with his tackling, kicking and second efforts. By all means he should be criticised but I hate the way the threads get started on the usual suspects all the time. Where is the thread on how Eade was outcoached today?
 

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always right said:
Where is the thread on how Eade was outcoached today?
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Well, start one then. Agree with most posts in this thread that Eagleton wasn't good enough today - he's a one trick (shetland) pony but he keeps stuffing his trick up. If O'Keefe comes in he might not be as good as Eagle in his first game, but give him 5 in a row and there's no doubt he'll play better than Eagleton did today.
 
always right said:
Why didn't you start a thread on Aker? He was deplorable today. Or what about Cross and Gia? Never seen those two have quieter games. Where was Gilbee when the game was put beyond us in the third quarter? What about our blokes in the centre who let the Eagles waltz out of the middle time and time again? Shouldnt the thread be about Eade and the lack of structure in the team all day? And why didn't he place Picken as a hard tag on Kerr all match instead of just the last quarter?

I agree that Eagelton had a shocker but his first three games have been really good. I think he is one player that should share the blame for today....but he's one of many who had poor games. Starting a negative thread about Eagleton is so predictable on this board.
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Most erudite comment to my mind.
 
He had a shocker today. Others were quiet and maybe even as bad. But I think Eagleton can replaced by younger running players more so than Hahn or Gilbee, thats why theyre names arnt coming up as much. They bring more to the game.
 
im not an eagle basher but lets face it. He is in the side for his long accurate left foot kicking. That seems to have dissapeared of late. with young players pushing for selection i could be time for him to go.

Also gilbee will not be use to being tagged and lets fce it he was tagged out of the game. Gia didn't look right today. Spent alot of time on the bench. Was possibly feling the heat. Higgins though was top class.
 
Gooka said:
OKeefe had a ripper apparently in the VFL. Surely we reward good form and effort, and those who don't perform at AFL level should be dropped.
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I don't understand how people can be so certain that a guy who has never played a game at AFL level should just waltz in to the side because a senior player had a few bad kicks. It seems quite a few people on this forum have some kind of blind faith in anyone that Scott Clayton drafted over the past 9 years.

I sincerely hope Okeefe turns out to be a star but for now he has to do it consistantly at that level. If he's B.O.G 3 weeks in a row then sure, give him a game.
 
anthj said:
Well put Cordy in the ruck next week too :rolleyes:

It's time to re-build!
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Talk about just saying stupid things to try and prove your point. That would be totally different because 1) Or rucks were OK. 2) Cordy isn't physically ready to play AFL.

No one is saying all senior guys should go and just play kids. Or play kids for the sake of it.

I started the thread to say I thought Eagleton was very poor today. In previous years he's been a whipping boy due to regular poor performances - the difference, I feel, this year is that there are more around who can play a similar role. 3 years ago we didn't have Hill, Ward, Harbrow, Everitt, Okeefe, Reid, so Eagle kept getting a game.

I think now is the right time to reward good performances in the 2s and pick the team based on form.
 
Libba39 said:
I don't understand how people can be so certain that a guy who has never played a game at AFL level should just waltz in to the side because a senior player had a few bad kicks. It seems quite a few people on this forum have some kind of blind faith in anyone that Scott Clayton drafted over the past 9 years.

I sincerely hope Okeefe turns out to be a star but for now he has to do it consistantly at that level. If he's B.O.G 3 weeks in a row then sure, give him a game.
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I think you're missing the point. I shouldn't have mentioned a replacement in the opening post, but just that I think Eagle should be dropped.

Maybe O'Keefe isn't the replacement. But I don't think Eagleton should still be in the team.
 

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This thread was started not as a Eagle bashing thread but basically stating that the bald one doesnt stand up when the pressure is on. No need for defenders to bring up other players, just simply remind everyone of a big game "finals" when he has performed well.
 
Very timely topic this one.

My Bulldog mates and I were talking about this during the Tigers game.

My view is that although Eagleton is serviceable, he is definitely on the decline. I think we could bring in a young player, whether it is O'Keefe or Reid or Wood, and they would also be serviceable. The difference is that all three of those players would get better with experience and could turn out to be a Morris or Boyd.

The time to introduce new players is when your team is at their strongest so that they can learn without being under massive pressure. With Aker/Eagleton/Johnson on the verge of retirement we will need to find 3 very good players to replace them. Aker and Johnson are doing enough to keep their places in the team, often in our top 10 for the game. Eagleton is currently ranking 15-22, something that O'Keefe and co. could also achieve.

Make the call Rocket. We are not going to be able to rebuild via "bottoming out" with GC17 and West Sydney coming on board.
 
does anyone know eagle's role in the side? if its uncontested poss and goals then we are in trouble becos he aint doing that and his weaknesses are too many to list. he wasn't alone but those type of players we can replace. im not saying o'keefe should take his spot, but a 5 goal 35 possesion game demands some thinking.
also will was non-existant..bring in skipper...1) he's in form 2) if he's not played now, when will he?
hahn-worst player this year for us IMO
johhno- love him but is becoming a liability..no vision or skill, too many turnovers.
thoughts?
 
BOOMA BULLDOGS said:
does anyone know eagle's role in the side? if its uncontested poss and goals then we are in trouble becos he aint doing that and his weaknesses are too many to list. he wasn't alone but those type of players we can replace. im not saying o'keefe should take his spot, but a 5 goal 35 possesion game demands some thinking.
also will was non-existant..bring in skipper...1) he's in form 2) if he's not played now, when will he?
hahn-worst player this year for us IMO
johhno- love him but is becoming a liability..no vision or skill, too many turnovers.
thoughts?
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My thoughts are that thats a poor comment.

Sure he isn't what he was a few years ago, but he is still a champion.
 

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I thought almost the whole team looked below standard yesterday, and while Eagleton had a few clangers, I felt that, if anything, he tried harder than most of the team and for longer. I also feel that he has been unfairly targeted on BF and that, on most occasions, he does the job that he is asked to do. As for Gia, well, it is hard to make an impression if you are sitting on the bench - I don't know why he was there for so long, but you don't get possessions on the bench, so its pretty harsh to criticize him from that point of view. At any rate, I think it was a reality check for the team, and to be honest, I won't be surprised if they get done next week as well. Anyway, think how happy Wallet would be to have our current win:loss ratio.
 
always right said:
Why didn't you start a thread on Aker? He was deplorable today. Or what about Cross and Gia? Never seen those two have quieter games. Where was Gilbee when the game was put beyond us in the third quarter? What about our blokes in the centre who let the Eagles waltz out of the middle time and time again? Shouldnt the thread be about Eade and the lack of structure in the team all day? And why didn't he place Picken as a hard tag on Kerr all match instead of just the last quarter?

I agree that Eagelton had a shocker but his first three games have been really good. I think he is one player that should share the blame for today....but he's one of many who had poor games. Starting a negative thread about Eagleton is so predictable on this board.
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Great post always right.

I love how after a bad game eagleton is used as the scapegoat. Plenty worse than him today. He was bad today but one game is no justifacation to drop the guy.

As has been said by others he run his ass off today and actually laid some tackles.
 
Eagleton should not be treated any differently to any other player.

If he is contributing then he should stay in the 22. If not,he should make way for others.
 
May as well throw these West Australian wildflower tourists

Ward, Hahn, Gia, Gilbee, Hudson, Minson, Griffen, Halfbrow, Johnno and Addison

into the gun sights with him

As being half the side that didn't do much other than getting on the plane during this Perth trip.

The other 11 useful players were no match for West Coast's 16-18 useful players
 
Butane said:
Eagleton has the second MOST tackles in our team this year.

Cross - 19
Eagleton - 18

Surprising low
Addison - 9
Griffen - 9
Ward - 8

(A tackle counts if the ball is either a ball up, free kick or a turn over - So Eagleton's tackles are sticking almost more then anyones!)

Put that in your 'weaknesses' pipe and smoke it.
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And his role in the team is to.....

Although his tackling & harrassing has been much better this year, and it has his role in the team is to provide run & carry and use his biggest weapon, his kicking to finish off the work of others.

His kicking in pressure situations has been poor over the last couple of years and I feel, along with others that he will let us down when the whips start cracking.
 
I feel that Eagleton primary role with the team is to play as a running outside midfielder, but I feel that currently we have players much better suited to that role due to Eagleton's inconsistent kicking, however I don't think Eagleton should be shouldering the blame for the loss against West Coast
 

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