EFC Best 22

[zap123]

B: Welsh Fletcher Solomon

HB: McPhee Bradley NLM

C:Camporeale J.Johnson Ramanuskas

HF:Hird Lucas Lovett

F: McVeigh Lloyd Laycock

R: Hille, M.Johnson and Stanton

Inter: Peverill, Monfries, Dyson and Watson

Emery: Bolton, Rioli and Cole/ Heffernan

 

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http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=212744

 

[alex1fun]

Peverill I think will struggle to make best 22

 

[douggie the don]

B: Welsh Fletcher Solomon

HB: McPhee Bradley NLM

C:Camporeale J.Johnson Ramanuskas

HF:Hird Lucas Lovett

F: McVeigh Lloyd Laycock

R: Hille, M.Johnson and Stanton

Inter: Peverill, Monfries, Dyson and Watson

Emery: Bolton, Rioli and Cole/ Heffernan

how can you seriously have a best 22 without Dean Rioli???????????
putting injuries aside he's in our top dozen if not half dozen..

 

[Tricky_Ricky2]

cole will play 1st round if fit, no doubt about it

 

[monfries_young-gun]

B: Welsh Fletcher Solomon

HB: McPhee Bradley NLM

C:Camporeale J.Johnson Ramanuskas

HF:Hird Lucas Rioli

F: McVeigh Lloyd Lovett

R: Hille, M.Johnson and Stanton

Inter: Peverill, Monfries, Dyson and Laycock


Not sure where Cole will play his best footy so have left him on the bench for now. I dont think any of our draftees will play round 1, fingers crossed that they play in the NAB Cup but. Cant wait to see what they can offer.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Essendon are in for a tough season.

Your bottom half is as weak as it's been for 10 years.

I'm not trolling or trying to provoke anyone. That's just how I see it.

 

[keepzitreal]

Essendon are in for a tough season.

Your bottom half is as weak as it's been for 10 years.

I'm not trolling or trying to provoke anyone. That's just how I see it.

I think u have no idea. Our list is better than its been in the last 3 years. We are due for a big year. It wouldnt surprise me if we had a better year than you guys

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I think u have no idea. Our list is better than its been in the last 3 years. We are due for a big year. It wouldnt surprise me if we had a better year than you guys

You've still got the same problems, but your best players are now another year older. Hird, Lloyd, Fletcher, Lucas and the Johnsons can't do it all.

You've got some promising young midfielders coming through, but it would be unrealistic to expect them to make the kind of contribution in 2006 that might see Essendon improve on last year's effort.

That's how I see Essendon at the moment. Your best players are also your oldest, and I can't see where the improvement is going to come from.

If Essendon have a better year than WC in 2006, I'll eat my own a*se.

 

[HighReeve]

You've still got the same problems, but your best players are now another year older. Hird, Lloyd, Fletcher, Lucas and the Johnsons can't do it all.

You've got some promising young midfielders coming through, but it would be unrealistic to expect them to make the kind of contribution in 2006 that might see Essendon improve on last year's effort.

That's how I see Essendon at the moment. Your best players are also your oldest, and I can't see where the improvement is going to come from.

If Essendon have a better year than WC in 2006, I'll eat my own a*se.

The champions may be older, but by the same reasoning so are the Lovetts, Stantons, Dysons and Bradleys.

Ramanskus, Solomon, Rioli all had terrible years due to injury. Inject them and it's instantly twice the team Essendon were this year.

No one said Essendon will be better than WC this year. I would like you to eat your own arse though. It may stop you posting.

As you were Essendon board.

 

[Smokin_Joe]

You've still got the same problems, but your best players are now another year older. Hird, Lloyd, Fletcher, Lucas and the Johnsons can't do it all.

You've got some promising young midfielders coming through, but it would be unrealistic to expect them to make the kind of contribution in 2006 that might see Essendon improve on last year's effort.

That's how I see Essendon at the moment. Your best players are also your oldest, and I can't see where the improvement is going to come from.

If Essendon have a better year than WC in 2006, I'll eat my own a*se.

Your team had trouble getting over us at your home ground this year, we'll only get better ,solomon,mcphee and rama can make our mid tier look very strong. And Mcphee is Lovetts age.

 

[Longy413]

You've still got the same problems, but your best players are now another year older. Hird, Lloyd, Fletcher, Lucas and the Johnsons can't do it all.

At 27, I'd be very disapointed if Lucas, Lloyd and the Johnsons weren't making a large contribution. Fletcher doesn't look anywhere near finished and had a fine season in 2005.

I'd also be stunned if WCE's best players weren't also another year older.

You've got some promising young midfielders coming through, but it would be unrealistic to expect them to make the kind of contribution in 2006 that might see Essendon improve on last year's effort.

The improvement will have to come from McPhee, Ramanauskas, Solomon, McVeigh, Welsh, Hille, Rioli. Players who have the runs on the board but missed this year with injury or played injured. And hopefully some sort of impact from Campo, Heffernan and Cole. We lost 8 games by 4 goals or less and were closer to 8th than we were to bottom.

That's how I see Essendon at the moment. Your best players are also your oldest

Isn't that the case with the majority most clubs?
Who are the best players in the Premiership side? Hall, Barry, Kirk?
Adelaide - Riccuito, McLeod
Brisbane - Voss, Akermanis
Collingwood - Buckley, Rocca, Burns

Yes we know West Coast have Judd and Cousins, but you want your most experienced (Lloyd, Lucas, Johnson's aren't old and Fletcher will play for 3 years) players to carry the majority of the burden. That's why they are paid the big dollars.

In 2005 our big name players performed. Lucas, Mark and Jason Johnson, Fletcher all finished in the top 5 of our B&F. Lloyd has an average year and Hird is now reduced to an impact player. Our young players started to show promise. It was our middle tier players that let us down, through injury and poor form. That is where the improvement has to come from and with a good run of injuries it should.

I won't make top 4 or top 8 predictions. But I'd be stunned if we didn't win more games than last season.

If Essendon have a better year than WC in 2006, I'll eat my own a*se.

I presume you'd be eating it from the inside, out?

 

[Pevers-Legend]

In 2005 our big name players performed. Lucas, Mark and Jason Johnson, Fletcher all finished in the top 5 of our B&F. Lloyd has an average year and Hird is now reduced to an impact player. Our young players started to show promise. It was our middle tier players that let us down, through injury and poor form. That is where the improvement has to come from and with a good run of injuries it should.

hence our major clean out of 10 players.

A lot of good came from last year in that sheedy had to finally give up on all of those duds and put the kids in which paid dividends by seasons end with competitive performances in every match post the Adelaide debacle.

I think we will be much more consistent, and it just depends on 2nd/3rd year blues for some players as to how we will fair.

 

[dave_27]

Essendon are in for a tough season.

Your bottom half is as weak as it's been for 10 years.

It couldnt be worse than the dead wood we've had sitting their that sheedy has just cleaned out.

 

[rioli brownlow]

Essendon are in for a tough season.

Your bottom half is as weak as it's been for 10 years.

I'm not trolling or trying to provoke anyone. That's just how I see it.

go back to your own teams board , you wouldn't have a clue pal.

at least we are going to be capable of kicking more than 10 goals a gamee

 

[roge_3]

B - Cole Fletcher McVeigh
HB - Welsh Bradley NLM
C- Campo JJohnson Dyson
HF- Soloman Lucas Lovett
F- Hird Lloyd M.Johnson
R- Laycock McPhee Stanton
I- Monfries, Hille, Rioli, Heffernan.
E- Rama, Watson, Peverill, Winderlich

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

go back to your own teams board , you wouldn't have a clue pal.

at least we are going to be capable of kicking more than 10 goals a gamee

The truth hurts. You guys should keep your expectations for 2006 in check. It's going to be a frustrating year.

 

[foj1]

I agree with Longy 413 it is our middle tier players who will decide our fate.
McPhee, Solomon and Rioli to get fit and find form.
Lovetts, Laycock, Bradley, Hille, Dyson, Monfries continue to develop
Stanton continue to develop towards top class onballer
Campo, Hef and Cole to add depth and experience
A wildcard to emerge would be the icing on the cake.
Can Johns become a hard hitting chf type?
Can Nash become next years Gilbee?
Can Watson and Reynolds continue the family tradition?
Can Rama overcome a terrible illness and injury?
Can Ryder show some excitement like Franklin did this year?
Can Henneman take over fullback so we can release Fletcher into the forward line?
We know that we will get solid performances from Lloyd, Lucas, Johnsons and Fletcher and Hird.

 

[foj1]

The truth hurts. You guys should keep your expectations for 2006 in check. It's going to be a frustrating year.

The truth is you should have won last years Grand Final and you didnt. The truth is you havent been able to trade for a key forward and you lost your most consistent goal scorer over the past five years. The truth is you had a dream run with injuries last year. The truth is two of your key players are associated with questionable people (Great image for a Captain of a club even if he is a great player). The truth is the Grand Final is played at the MCG! The truth is your club has not beaten us in a finals game. The truth is we dont know what is going to happen next year and you should stick to discussing your own team which you may know something about.

 

[alex1fun]

I agree with Longy 413 it is our middle tier players who will decide our fate.
McPhee, Solomon and Rioli to get fit and find form.
Lovetts, Laycock, Bradley, Hille, Dyson, Monfries continue to develop
Stanton continue to develop towards top class onballer
Campo, Hef and Cole to add depth and experience
A wildcard to emerge would be the icing on the cake.
Can Johns become a hard hitting chf type?
Can Nash become next years Gilbee?
Can Watson and Reynolds continue the family tradition?
Can Rama overcome a terrible illness and injury?
Can Ryder show some excitement like Franklin did this year?
Can Henneman take over fullback so we can release Fletcher into the forward line?
We know that we will get solid performances from Lloyd, Lucas, Johnsons and Fletcher and Hird.

Can Johns become a hard hitting chf type? I doubt it, but good luck to him.
Can Nash become next years Gilbee? That would be perfect, good luck to him.
Can Watson and Reynolds continue the family tradition? Watson maybe, Reynolds, I highly doubt it.
Can Rama overcome a terrible illness and injury? Yes
Can Ryder show some excitement like Franklin did this year? Possibly
Can Henneman take over fullback so we can release Fletcher into the forward line? Heart says yes, head says no.

 

[Toasta]

Can Johns become a hard hitting chf type? I doubt it, but good luck to him.
Can Nash become next years Gilbee? That would be perfect, good luck to him.
Can Watson and Reynolds continue the family tradition? Watson maybe, Reynolds, I highly doubt it.
Can Rama overcome a terrible illness and injury? Yes
Can Ryder show some excitement like Franklin did this year? Possibly
Can Henneman take over fullback so we can release Fletcher into the forward line? Heart says yes, head says no.

Careful, you dont want fall off the fence.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Essendon are in for a tough season.

Your bottom half is as weak as it's been for 10 years.

I'm not trolling or trying to provoke anyone. That's just how I see it.

How's this comment looking now?

I wasn't trolling or trying to rile anyone. But some in this thread just flew off the handle without engaging what I said.

Since then, I've been vindicated by events.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

It wouldnt surprise me if we had a better year than you guys

Funny stuff.

 

[Smokin]

Your bottom half is as weak as it's been for 10 years.

Actually, quite opposite. It's our "bottom half" which has carried Essendon thus far this year. Our "senior" players have been nothing short of disapointing - very underdone. We still arent all that far away.

You just worry about your own mob. Your window is NOW...wouldnt want to choke again would we?

 

[Philzsay]

How's this comment looking now?

I wasn't trolling or trying to rile anyone. But some in this thread just flew off the handle without engaging what I said.

Since then, I've been vindicated by events.

Vindicated? No you have not. You made your point on the basis that ‘our bottom half is the weakest is has been in 10 years’. However it has not been our bottom half that has left us in our current position. It has been the underperformance of our senior players that have been the main reason for our 1-4 record. Look at our following players:

Mark Johnson: lost complete form.
Jason Johnson: unfit and not playing well.
Dean Solomon: Struggling
Matt Lloyd: Expected to have a big year and was until his injury.
Lucas: Slow start to the year.
Peveril: In and out of the side
David Hille: His brain freeze against Brisbane cost us dearly in our 2 goal loss to the Bulldogs.
Welsh: Just dropped due to poor form.
Rama: who would have though he would unfortunately have cancer again?
Rioli: only played half a game

Fletcher and Hird have been the only senior players who have stood up so far (even Hirdy has missed a few games as expected)

Our ‘Bottom half’ has improved. None better than Jobe Watson who is finally delivering. Monfires has been fantastic despite his banana kick (the only real mistake his made in his entire career so far). Most of our young players have put up a good fight. They are playing all as expected.

Our ‘top half’ has collectively had a massive drop in output. None of us expected that. Most Essendon supporters were genuinely excited about this year as we thought our younger players will improve. They have. It’s been the older players who have been the disappointment. If the ‘top half’ played as well as expected then we would be in a much better position than we are now. Don’t forget we have lost 4 games by 1 to 18 points. If our bottom half had also been under performing then we would be losing by much bigger margins.

So you have not been vindicated by ‘events’. The exact opposite of your reasoning has occurred and you are just lucky that as a result your conclusion remains right. That doesn’t vindicate you. If you had watched all of Essendon’s games you would realize this. Your original post in December may not have been a troll, but your post today certainly is. You have just come into the Essendon board because we are 1 and 4 and you want to rub it in and put yourself on a pedestal. That is trolling.