Egan eyeing 2008

[Spagger83]

if hes eyeing 2008, then hopefully he's eyeing a new club too....i dont rate him at all.

too soft....too flashy....inconsistent attacks on the pill.... just dont like the bloke.

but if we keep him, good luck to him!

 

[yeah-nah]

Madness? It isn’t even possible. He has no trade value.

Garbage.

 

[doppleganger]

The opinions regarding Egan and Rusling on this board puzzle me no end

Both taken from the same draft

Rusling done nothing at AFL level yet, except for a decent quarter against Port, has been injured and yet is viewed by some as a gun just because he can run fast.

Egan had established himself in our best 22 at the end of 06, was one of our better performers in the later part of the season actually. 07 he has been injured, yet most think he is rubbish!

Seems the best thing to do when ur a kid is be injured as then the hype continues to build...ie Rusling.

But if ur a kid and play inconsistent footy, and get dropped a couple of times from the ones, and eventually play some quality AFL footy without being an absolute standout people think u aren't up to scratch.

At this stage of their careers 08 is almost getting to make or break for both Ego and Rus, yet Ego is not up to it according to the majority, while Rus is a star?? If they both were injured again in 08, Ego will have had the better career as a magpie, he at least showed he could string some good games together at AFL level!

 

[BEEG]

The opinions regarding Egan and Rusling on this board puzzle me no end

Both taken from the same draft

Rusling done nothing at AFL level yet, except for a decent quarter against Port, has been injured and yet is viewed by some as a gun just because he can run fast.

Egan had established himself in our best 22 at the end of 06, was one of our better performers in the later part of the season actually. 07 he has been injured, yet most think he is rubbish!

Seems the best thing to do when ur a kid is be injured as then the hype continues to build...ie Rusling.

But if ur a kid and play inconsistent footy, and get dropped a couple of times from the ones, and eventually play some quality AFL footy without being an absolute standout people think u aren't up to scratch.

At this stage of their careers 08 is almost getting to make or break for both Ego and Rus, yet Ego is not up to it according to the majority, while Rus is a star?? If they both were injured again in 08, Ego will have had the better career as a magpie, he at least showed he could string some good games together at AFL level!

AGREE 110% to many people on this board rate Rusling but Egan has played better footy then Rus and looked like he could become a star at the end of last year whats Rus done he hasnt even played that well at willi

 

[Magnus the Magpie]

Unless we get offered some fabulous trade deal (highly unlikely), we'll stick with both Egan and Rusling - purely because the potential upside looks terrific (and both are young). If we delist them, I'll bet my house on both being picked up in the PSD.

 

[shawthing09]

The opinions regarding Egan and Rusling on this board puzzle me no end

Both taken from the same draft

Rusling done nothing at AFL level yet, except for a decent quarter against Port, has been injured and yet is viewed by some as a gun just because he can run fast.

Egan had established himself in our best 22 at the end of 06, was one of our better performers in the later part of the season actually. 07 he has been injured, yet most think he is rubbish!

Seems the best thing to do when ur a kid is be injured as then the hype continues to build...ie Rusling.

But if ur a kid and play inconsistent footy, and get dropped a couple of times from the ones, and eventually play some quality AFL footy without being an absolute standout people think u aren't up to scratch.

At this stage of their careers 08 is almost getting to make or break for both Ego and Rus, yet Ego is not up to it according to the majority, while Rus is a star?? If they both were injured again in 08, Ego will have had the better career as a magpie, he at least showed he could string some good games together at AFL level!

I am glad someone else has said this, Rusling is rated by so many fans as a player who is surely going to develop into a superstar, whilst so many fans think Egan is never going to develop and i just don't know why.

I hope they both develop into good players but i think a lot of people severly overrate Rusling and under rate Egan. Egan has done far more at afl level and the argument about his VFL performances goes the same for Rusling.

Egan has far more strings to his bow and is a far harder to stop player, People talk about Ruslings athletism Egans verticle leap mobility etc. The only reason I can think of that Rusling is rated higher by the fans is becuase Egan was a top 10 pick and people expect a whole lot from him as well as the fact that he is laconic and looks like he is crusing might frustrate people and cause them not to rate him. That said people on this board tend to love Cox who in my opinion is equally laconic and cruisey

 

[ant22]

I'm not as confident as you blokes. He reminds me too much of Julian Rowe. Until he shows something that impresses me, I'm staying off the bandwagon.

Julian Rowe has more talant than alot of people going around have but from all reports(dont take it as gospel) he had a terrible attitude. With what he showed in his first season he should have been a very good player. Some people just dont take there chances. I just hope Egan takes his because I agree with many, he has talent and proved it in the 2nd half of last year.

 

[ant22]

Unless we get offered some fabulous trade deal (highly unlikely), we'll stick with both Egan and Rusling - purely because the potential upside looks terrific (and both are young). If we delist them, I'll bet my house on both being picked up in the PSD.

they would not last that long. they both have trade value. Egan did moe than enough last year for someone to offer something(at worst 3rd round) and there are plenty of teams who would take rusling because he has proven on the odd occassion he can snag a few. Both are young and have upside. It is supposed to be a very thin draft so your chances of getting a half decent senior player would be better than any player picked up over about pick 25-30.
I would not trade them because they are still good enough to work and while the pace issue has improved out of sight we could still do with a bit more.

 

[MATTHOY73]

i agree, trade him please

 

[doppleganger]

there are plenty of teams who would take rusling because he has proven on the odd occassion he can snag a few.

When?

Apart from that one quarter against Port where he snagged 3, Rus has kicked 7 goals in his other 11 games!

Ego kicked 7 goals in the pies last 3 games of 06! Yet people dont think he is up to it!

Dont want to sound like a Rusling basher, as i think he could develop into a player.......but he is yet to do anything to suggest he will be a player!

 

[shawthing09]

When?

Apart from that one quarter against Port where he snagged 3, Rus has kicked 7 goals in his other 11 games!

Ego kicked 7 goals in the pies last 3 games of 06! Yet people dont think he is up to it!

Dont want to sound like a Rusling basher, as i think he could develop into a player.......but he is yet to do anything to suggest he will be a player!

again glad some1 else said it, it seems that there is a great divide in the opinions of the fans on Rusling. One school of though is pure athelete straight kick omg will be a superstar if his not injured. The other is he still has a lot to proove.

I think the kids has amazing upsides but = has a lot of flaws, if he overcomes these flaws superstar if not he may end up one of those kids who was promising and didn't deliver.

But to suggest these flaws or lack of proof that he is any good at this stage tends to get some fans fairly unhappy.

Egan on the other hand i feel has more upsides, and more versatility and more proof that he can preform at the level he has even proven that he can string good games together and yet for some has done less or is less impressing then Rusling which puzzles me to no end.

 

[doppleganger]

Clearly we are both on the same wavelength Shawy!

Both have potential, both hopefully will be quality players

But for some reason all the optimism from supporters is with Rus?

 

[shawthing09]

Clearly we are both on the same wavelength Shawy!

Both have potential, both hopefully will be quality players

But for some reason all the optimism from supporters is with Rus?

Deffinatly a lot to do with what you said earlier Rus has had a lot of injuries and this has realised pressure off him to preform, early on when he had no expectations it was wow look at his athletism, then the quater against port, where as egan doesn't look great at vfl level and so that has taken his stocks down. I think also Egan had high expectations as a first round pick so people expect more

 

[pieblessing]

reading the comments I realsie how easily we get conned by the publicity machine. Inside mail is he is not commited to rehab, I am aware he has talent, but is he a good influence on the young list.

 

[Coin_Toss]

reading the comments I realsie how easily we get conned by the publicity machine. Inside mail is he is not commited to rehab, I am aware he has talent, but is he a good influence on the young list.

See my point (Re Julian Rowe). Chris has an attitude problem too, his future is in tatters from the things I hear, he needs to sort this out sooner than later or otherwise his career will go down the same path as Julian Rowe.

 

[FIGJAM]

The knee injury was unfortunate for Egan because he had shown very little up to that point.!

Disagree. The flakey types always need a bit of time to work things out. He had shown some quality in patches.

It is always hard first year back from a knee reco so it will tough to make an impact next year. That leaves him 2009 as his last gasp.

Agreed.

My betting is on Egan not making it at Collingwood. It is cut throat with short lists and compulsory culls. I hope I’m wrong but IMO anything we get from Egan is a bonus.

I think he will make it at Collingwood and that by the end of 2009, he will be a more than handy player.

I hope we never again downgrade a top 10 draft pick – particularly for a player of the ilk we have in abundance. What a rubbish decision that was!

Amen.

And it wasn't just the downgrading. We flicked Pick 37 for Crab, which was used to get Le Cras, who can play, and just three spots later Ivan Maric was taken who looks like he can ruck. Whilst we probably would have taken Egan at 7 anyway, here is where the real opportunity cost manifests.

 

[TheBushranger]

Disagree. The flakey types always need a bit of time to work things out. He had shown some quality in patches.


Agreed.


I think he will make it at Collingwood and that by the end of 2009, he will be a more than handy player.


Amen.

And it wasn't just the downgrading. We flicked Pick 37 for Crab, which was used to get Le Cras, who can play, and just three spots later Ivan Maric was taken who looks like he can ruck. Whilst we probably would have taken Egan at 7 anyway, here is where the real opportunity cost manifests.

That is why Malthouse should not be let anywhere near the draft or trade table. Our review identified the fact that Malthouse is poor in these areas and rightly spread out responsibility among a number of other senior figues to dilute Malthouse's power in this area.

And it has worked well in the last couple of years, with the club actually recruiting players with talent as opposed to players with a fat arse.