Encryption bill passed/rushed

[Chief]

You’re against this?

You’re leaping to conclusions yet again.

 

[Gralin]

Some of those old boys are absolute sweethearts, they'll bend your ear about how they saw Lindwall or Ted Dexter play but I'm totally cool with that.

I don't doubt it, was more to do with the sun burn and beer wobbles a lot of them had going on, looked like a middle aged bucks party had descended on North Terrace, though most of them were heading to Hindley St

 

[its free real estate]

You’re leaping to conclusions yet again.

It was a question, not a conclusion.

 

[cartwright]

Has anyone in the media, actually stopped and asked the government or opposition how -exactly- do they believe rushing these laws through will make Australians safer over Christmas.
Do they really think we believe that tech companies will simply comply or even can comply in such a short period of time?

https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/10/silicon-valley-denounce-australia-encryption-law/

Cisco and Mozilla joined other companies in separately filing complaints with Australian lawmakers ahead of the planned vote, arguing that the law “could do significant harm to the Internet.”

 

[Admiral Byng]

Has anyone in the media, actually stopped and asked the government or opposition how -exactly- do they believe rushing these laws through will make Australians safer over Christmas.
Do they really think we believe that tech companies will simply comply or even can comply in such a short period of time?

https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/10/silicon-valley-denounce-australia-encryption-law/

Cisco and Mozilla joined other companies in separately filing complaints with Australian lawmakers ahead of the planned vote, arguing that the law “could do significant harm to the Internet.”

"ASIO asked for it before Christmas" will be the standard response, followed by "we don't discus matters pertaining to ASIO" to any further follow-up questions.

So, ask ASIO, but you're not allowed to ask ASIO.

 

[its free real estate]

It’s highly unlikely ASIO or anyone in the local security sector asked for it, aside from the terminally incompetent AFP.

Highly likely that this request came from outside Australia, and we’re a test case to see how and which companies will comply.

 

[NSWCROW]

Highly likely that this request came from outside Australia, and we’re a test case to see how and which companies will comply.

Geee i wonder who.....

 

[NSWCROW]

"ASIO asked for it before Christmas" will be the standard response, followed by "we don't discus matters pertaining to ASIO" to any further follow-up questions.

So, ask ASIO, but you're not allowed to ask ASIO.

We dont comment on " on-water matters "

 

[Bunkdar]

Why would you say a party which believes in big government controlling anything and everything caved?

Seems like exactly the sort of legislation they would be in favour of.

The bill had something like 175 amendments made on the last day and parliament time was a game of running down the clock for its last sitting of the year. This passing was shameful on both sides

When it comes to the police state the right wing love big government.
They even got a big stick for the electricity companies. They are so lost and stand for opposite of what they used 2 or just nothing at all

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Geee i wonder who.....

I will differ and suggest it's more likely to be the UK than the Trump admin.

They have a similar law on the books, but employing a different mechanism and are probably interested in the economic fallout.

Our policies relating to digital security and surveillance have been in lock step with their proposals, but we tend to precede them in implementation in a less competent and broader fashion. See the filter, data retention and so on. That's also the history of the Australian security services, which was shaped and largely subservient to their British counterpart long after we started taking orders from the Yanks.

 

[NSWCROW]

Imagine my shock....

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Imagine my shock....

If it's an outside party pushing Australia to adopt this strategy, there is your answer to who it is.

Presently, almost none of the provisions in our approach are on the books in the UK. If free real-estate is right, them finding out what works, what's vulnerable and how bad it ****s domestic industry is why.

 

[NSWCROW]

If it's an outside party pushing Australia to adopt this strategy, there is your answer to who it is.

Presently, almost none of the provisions in our approach are on the books in the UK. If free real-estate is right, them finding out what works, what's vulnerable and how bad it ****s domestic industry is why.

So poms ?

Well that coward abbott will be happy

Jesus i'd be staying well away from any advice form the uk considering how badly they've ****ed up brexit

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

So poms ?

Well that coward abbott will be happy

Jesus i'd be staying well away from any advice form the uk considering how badly they've ****** up brexit

If I was to guess, we largely mooch off American capability for foreign sigint, and domestically have a cut rate approach modelled off the British. Beyond the five eyes, British intelligence heavily influenced and dictated to our own, for decades after the US became our protector.

Because we sit under the American umbrella though, we seem rather unconcerned about important stuff like foreign spying on our soil and widespread industrial espionage, especially if protecting Australian research and industry means upsetting trading partners. The country is famous for it's surprisingly slapshod approach to digital security and the government leaks like a sieve.

Instead Australia casts a pretty wide and oppressive domestic net mainly focused on Islamic terror and hassling organised labour. Or perceived political enemies of government and donor interest. That's who this bill is targeted at. Much in the same way the UK wasted millions infiltrating and monitoring activist groups at the behest of a small cadre of businesses, this law will largely be used to target unions, environmental protestors, and civil service leaks/journalists.

 

[its free real estate]

If it's an outside party pushing Australia to adopt this strategy, there is your answer to who it is.

Presently, almost none of the provisions in our approach are on the books in the UK. If free real-estate is right, them finding out what works, what's vulnerable and how bad it ****s domestic industry is why.

Yeah my money would be on the UK too.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Has anyone in the media, actually stopped and asked the government or opposition how -exactly- do they believe rushing these laws through will make Australians safer over Christmas

ScoMo's acting on the advice found on a tatty old scrap of paper found in former senator Stephen Conroy's old office that stated "The internet is a series of tubes, and strange men want to put their privates in the other side of that tube, and right into your child's bedroom."

ScoMo will make the connection that terrorism is very much like someone's privates on the internet. It WILL go through tubes. It WILL hit your child in the eye. ScoMo MUST protect the kiddies by Christmas.