Ever won Keno? Advice?

[J_Moore]

Grandma J_Moore won the big one about ten years back. Helped make a good dent in the mortgages of her 6 kids. I also figured it exhausted any familial luck for 4-5 generations.

 

[Jpw22511]

Bump

6 or 7 years ago when I was living in caboolture renter down the street won the 10 spot. Spent it all on pokies and pizza, you may not believe me but he is still renting that house.

Most I ever won was 6 spot $1800 went to the holiday account.

 

[tigertigertiger]

best win $600 with numerous 100-300 wins

knew a group of 3 brothers probably there 60's and 70's many years ago who won 10k, 1 number away from the million but they played keno all day every day

 

[chrisdon16]

Stumbled across this thread through Google. I've created a system playing heads and tails that I've won 5 days in a row now. Still in experiment phase but it looks very solid at the moment.

 

[LionsOrDieTrion]

Stumbled across this thread through Google. I've created a system playing heads and tails that I've won 5 days in a row now. Still in experiment phase but it looks very solid at the moment.

Thanks for sharing it bro.

I myself came up with a system that makes me a million dollars a day, and me telling others wouldn’t cost me anything, I would keep winning a million dollars a day but I’d rather gate keep that information because I’m a POS.

 

[kickazz]

My advice is enjoy playing it, decide what sort of sized win would make you happy and go for that, and most of all don't kid yourself that any system or way of playing is profitable long term. Because none of them are.

 

[Poezyn Wade]

Thanks for sharing it bro.

I myself came up with a system that makes me a million dollars a day, and me telling others wouldn’t cost me anything, I would keep winning a million dollars a day but I’d rather gate keep that information because I’m a POS.

Honestly, I’ve also been trying really hard to crack this myself. It's been a mix of small wins and learning curves, but I’m genuinely curious about how others are approaching it. If there’s even a small chance we could connect and you’d be willing to share a few tips or insights, I’d really appreciate it.

 

[Poezyn Wade]

Stumbled across this thread through Google. I've created a system playing heads and tails that I've won 5 days in a row now. Still in experiment phase but it looks very solid at the moment.

That's awesome to hear! I'm also testing Evens, and it's been working well for me too. Great to know someone else is on the same journey—would definitely be keen to connect. I think we could really help each other explore and understand the game better, especially while we're both experimenting and figuring things out. Could be fun to brainstorm and improve together!

 

[kaiserchief13]

Don't know how it works behind the scenes but played it first time few years back and hit on 5 numbers at $1 a game when I only played 5 games. It's like it knows when you are a new player to give you a win to make you want to come back. Anyway since then probably lost about $100 on it all up I'd guess as 1. Don't play it very often and 2. Most I've won since then is about $80 I think once or twice 4/5 numbers.

The odds of winning even if it's not rigged are lower than the odds of getting your numbers e.g. if you play 2 numbers, then odds are 2/80 * 1/79 to get your 2 numbers. Not sure what the payout is but I'd imagine it's lower than those odds.

Yes you could win on heads/tails if you keep increasing your wager because eventually you will win one but how far are you willing to go to win a small amount?

Example:

Bet $5 on heads/tails - lose game 1
Bet $10 on heads/tails - lose game 2
Bet $20 on heads/tails - lose game 3
Bet $40 on heads/tails - lose game 4
Bet $80 on heads/tails - lose game 5
Bet $160 on heads/tails - lose game 6
Bet $320 on heads/tails - lose game 7
Bet $640 on heads/tails - lose game 8
Bet $1,280 on heads/tails - lose game 9
Bet $2,560 on heads/tails - win game 10

Outlay: $5,115, collect $5,120

Could do same thing with roulette on red/black and odds/even

 

[Poezyn Wade]

Don't know how it works behind the scenes but played it first time few years back and hit on 5 numbers at $1 a game when I only played 5 games. It's like it knows when you are a new player to give you a win to make you want to come back. Anyway since then probably lost about $100 on it all up I'd guess as 1. Don't play it very often and 2. Most I've won since then is about $80 I think once or twice 4/5 numbers.

The odds of winning even if it's not rigged are lower than the odds of getting your numbers e.g. if you play 2 numbers, then odds are 2/80 * 1/79 to get your 2 numbers. Not sure what the payout is but I'd imagine it's lower than those odds.

Yes you could win on heads/tails if you keep increasing your wager because eventually you will win one but how far are you willing to go to win a small amount?

Example:

Bet $5 on heads/tails - lose game 1
Bet $10 on heads/tails - lose game 2
Bet $20 on heads/tails - lose game 3
Bet $40 on heads/tails - lose game 4
Bet $80 on heads/tails - lose game 5
Bet $160 on heads/tails - lose game 6
Bet $320 on heads/tails - lose game 7
Bet $640 on heads/tails - lose game 8
Bet $1,280 on heads/tails - lose game 9
Bet $2,560 on heads/tails - win game 10

Outlay: $5,115, collect $5,120

Could do same thing with roulette on red/black and odds/even

I think better to bid on even - gets 4 times, but again not easy as sometimes even does't come for 20+ times in a row

 

[kaiserchief13]

I think better to bid on even - gets 4 times, but again not easy as sometimes even does't come for 20+ times in a row

I mean getting it wrong 10 times on a 50/50 odds scenario is 0.10% chance, so 1 in a 1,000, but it probably happens way more often on these rigged games

 

[Poezyn Wade]

I mean getting it wrong 10 times on a 50/50 odds scenario is 0.10% chance, so 1 in a 1,000, but it probably happens way more often on these rigged games

yeh true, even usually comes often, but with me whenever I started - it went upto 10+ and not easy to keep bidding.. I wish I could find something.. are you still spending?

 

[Nothing]

Don't know how it works behind the scenes but played it first time few years back and hit on 5 numbers at $1 a game when I only played 5 games. It's like it knows when you are a new player to give you a win to make you want to come back. Anyway since then probably lost about $100 on it all up I'd guess as 1. Don't play it very often and 2. Most I've won since then is about $80 I think once or twice 4/5 numbers.

The odds of winning even if it's not rigged are lower than the odds of getting your numbers e.g. if you play 2 numbers, then odds are 2/80 * 1/79 to get your 2 numbers. Not sure what the payout is but I'd imagine it's lower than those odds.

Yes you could win on heads/tails if you keep increasing your wager because eventually you will win one but how far are you willing to go to win a small amount?

Example:

Bet $5 on heads/tails - lose game 1
Bet $10 on heads/tails - lose game 2
Bet $20 on heads/tails - lose game 3
Bet $40 on heads/tails - lose game 4
Bet $80 on heads/tails - lose game 5
Bet $160 on heads/tails - lose game 6
Bet $320 on heads/tails - lose game 7
Bet $640 on heads/tails - lose game 8
Bet $1,280 on heads/tails - lose game 9
Bet $2,560 on heads/tails - win game 10

Outlay: $5,115, collect $5,120

Could do same thing with roulette on red/black and odds/even

This is a guaranteed losing strategy, eventually.

You either hit a table limit, your cash limit or you realise that each event is independent of the past events and therefore the gambler's fallacy kicks in.

 

[Cuzz09]

Guy at work did a spot 10 and got 8 numbers. Think it was $1000

I once got a spot 4 $120 that's my best lol

I keep thinking of systems but its pure luck.

Think the best system is just stick with your fave numbers and hope

 

[Long Live HFC]

All players need to understand that (software) games like keno are NOT random. Tattslotto, for example, is a physical draw of a bunch if balls. THAT is random. On the other hand, software cannot generate random results; software requires a “seed” entry from which an outcome is decided.

Here’s a great article about organised crime taking advantage of pseudo randomisation:

Dr Karl: How Russian criminals cheated the pokies

In 2014, Russian criminals turned the tables on American casinos when they worked out how to beat the poker machines — thanks to Vladimir Putin and mathematics. Dr Karl Kruszelnicki explains how they did it.

www.abc.net.au

(Sorry, pretty sure the original article i read was much more in-depth, or maybe behind a paywall)

Tldr - unless you can spot the ‘seed’ there is no strategy to playing keno.

 

[Cuzz09]

yeah i figure they randomly pick someone to win every now n then... dunno... I'm sure the million could randomly go off every draw in theory

 

[Nothing]

All players need to understand that (software) games like keno are NOT random. Tattslotto, for example, is a physical draw of a bunch if balls. THAT is random. On the other hand, software cannot generate random results; software requires a “seed” entry from which an outcome is decided.

Here’s a great article about organised crime taking advantage of pseudo randomisation:

Dr Karl: How Russian criminals cheated the pokies

In 2014, Russian criminals turned the tables on American casinos when they worked out how to beat the poker machines — thanks to Vladimir Putin and mathematics. Dr Karl Kruszelnicki explains how they did it.

www.abc.net.au

(Sorry, pretty sure the original article i read was much more in-depth, or maybe behind a paywall)

Tldr - unless you can spot the ‘seed’ there is no strategy to playing keno.

Decades ago in Merimbula in NSW I spent a few hours at an RSL there. Got talking to a guy who played a mechanical horse racing game, that was 'random'. In reality, it cycled through ~1000 races. This guy had watched it that many times, that he could pick the cycle at some points. He never smashed it, because he was smart enough to know that would take it away.

He won enough each night to cover two beers and his meal. There were enough other punters who chucked money on that he went unnoticed.

 

[ash_1050]

Decades ago in Merimbula in NSW I spent a few hours at an RSL there. Got talking to a guy who played a mechanical horse racing game, that was 'random'. In reality, it cycled through ~1000 races. This guy had watched it that many times, that he could pick the cycle at some points. He never smashed it, because he was smart enough to know that would take it away.

He won enough each night to cover two beers and his meal. There were enough other punters who chucked money on that he went unnoticed.

If you've got rain man levels of pattern recognition you're not living in Merimbula and using your skills to buy two bears and a meal. Likewise unless you're watching him call the next race in advance several times in a row then he's pulling your leg.

That there's no pattern can also be verified these days by anyone with a reasonable grasp of mathematics and a spare afternoon to look at the numbers, and you could figure out in 20 minutes or so how many different possible scenarios there are and the odds of each one occurring.

If you want to win at Keno you'd best learn coding, as that's where any potential exploits would be found.

 

[Nothing]

If you've got rain man levels of pattern recognition you're not living in Merimbula and using your skills to buy two bears and a meal. Likewise unless you're watching him call the next race in advance several times in a row then he's pulling your leg.

That there's no pattern can also be verified these days by anyone with a reasonable grasp of mathematics and a spare afternoon to look at the numbers, and you could figure out in 20 minutes or so how many different possible scenarios there are and the odds of each one occurring.

If you want to win at Keno you'd best learn coding, as that's where any potential exploits would be found.

He did call them.in advance. I'll repeat that it was mechanical not computer driven.

It is not possible with computer driven stuff.

 

[Long Live HFC]

He did call them.in advance. I'll repeat that it was mechanical not computer driven.

It is not possible with computer driven stuff.

Huh? It’s the opposite. Software can’t deliver random results. Sure, it can make those results incredibly difficult to predict, but it’s never entirely random.

 

[kickazz]

Don't know how it works behind the scenes but played it first time few years back and hit on 5 numbers at $1 a game when I only played 5 games. It's like it knows when you are a new player to give you a win to make you want to come back. Anyway since then probably lost about $100 on it all up I'd guess as 1. Don't play it very often and 2. Most I've won since then is about $80 I think once or twice 4/5 numbers.

The odds of winning even if it's not rigged are lower than the odds of getting your numbers e.g. if you play 2 numbers, then odds are 2/80 * 1/79 to get your 2 numbers. Not sure what the payout is but I'd imagine it's lower than those odds.

Yes you could win on heads/tails if you keep increasing your wager because eventually you will win one but how far are you willing to go to win a small amount?

Example:

Bet $5 on heads/tails - lose game 1
Bet $10 on heads/tails - lose game 2
Bet $20 on heads/tails - lose game 3
Bet $40 on heads/tails - lose game 4
Bet $80 on heads/tails - lose game 5
Bet $160 on heads/tails - lose game 6
Bet $320 on heads/tails - lose game 7
Bet $640 on heads/tails - lose game 8
Bet $1,280 on heads/tails - lose game 9
Bet $2,560 on heads/tails - win game 10

Outlay: $5,115, collect $5,120

Could do same thing with roulette on red/black and odds/even

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Go and run this simulation a few times - you just about always "end up on top" - in theory - but have a look at some of the troughs you end up having to dealwith. As Nothing says, you will pretty easily hit either a table (bet size) limit or the limit of what you have left in your wallet/bank account to wager. And when that point comes, you are literally unable to place that bet that gets you back up into the green; you have lost all that money and have to start again.

And note that this simulator assumes fair payout - as in double your money on a 50% chance - so real life would be a bit worse.

 

[Macca180]

Advice. Yeah, use that money better.