Conspiracy Theory Evolution as modern myth

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In that Dawkins clip with the riveting and highly intelligent star from “Ferris Beullers day off”,he only postulates the possibility that a civilisation that had evolved due to the Darwian theory,”may” have,thats “may” have seeded life here on earth!
He does not concede at any point to “intelligent design”.
If this is the best the “creationists” have on this subject,you lose!
The thing that strikes me most about the video is the obvious disdain and look of “why am I wasting my time with this clearly peanutted brain imbecile” look on Dawkins face the entire interview,if that’s what we can call it?
 
Pessimistic said:
Suppose life was not created at any point. Suppose it has always existed, in the same way the cosmos has always existed.

Why does evolution have to be about creation? It’s not. Only creationists want to frame the discussion thus
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Evolution is not about creation, abiogenesis is about formation of life, evolution is a fact. The believers of organised religion always makes it about science vs religion but this isnt the case in reality. Everything evolves like cosmos, society even our mind, so won't evolution be factual?
 

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chelseacarlton said:
If Christians evolved from Jews,why are their still Jews?
Your statement is the dumbest thing I’ve read on bigfooty!
Kudos!
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What????

Your equating Christian's and Jews to chimpanzee to humans.

And my statement is dumb lmao.
 
NEGAN said:
What????

Your equating Christian's and Jews to chimpanzee to humans.

And my statement is dumb lmao.
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Yes it is because humans evolved up the Great Ape line not the Monkey line.
If you said Orangutans are the next humans then it would be slightly less stupid.
 
Present Not Past said:
Yes it is because humans evolved up the Great Ape line not the Monkey line.
If you said Orangutans are the next humans then it would be slightly less stupid.
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I will cop that but the premise of my statement still stands and you know that wasn't what he was arguing.

Chimpanzees are the humans of tomorrow.
 
Anyone care to make a case for why accepting creative design must mean there's a god you have to perform ceremonies for?

I can quite get the connection and proponents go straight from elaborate CD discussions straight into "so there IS a god....." without a moments explanation.
 
And by the way I'm not an expert but given the population mismatch, Id imagine the expansion of the christian cult was far more numerous (by many factors) in the wider roman empire than in the jewish community where it allegedly arose.

And lets face it , while the expansion of the christian cult did happen (a fact) there's no denying it had many of the aspects of what we would call a cult today.
 
No no no ......noooooooo


I had 8 paragraphs and counting reply.
 

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Scientists Found a Bird That's 3 Species in One, And We've Never Seen Anything Like It

NATURE

MICHELLE STARR
12 NOV 2018

An unusual warbler in Pennsylvania has been discovered harbouring an incredible genetic secret. He's the hybrid of not two, but three different species of bird. His mother was a hybrid of two warblers - and his father was a warbler of an entirely different third genus.

"It's extremely rare," said ornithologist David Toews of Cornell Lab of Ornithology.

"The female is a Golden-winged/Blue-winged warbler hybrid - also called a Brewster's warbler. She then mated with a Chestnut-sided warbler and successfully reproduced."

Bird hybrids aren't uncommon - after all, Brewster's warbler has been known since 1874, and it's well known that hybridisation can lead to the development of new species.

But generally, it's only two species. The fact that this one bird is a three-species hybrid is fascinating - but it also reveals something alarming about declining warbler numbers in Appalachia.

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(Cornell Lab of Ornithology)

He was first spotted in May 2018, by bird-watcher Lowell Burket. After taking a video of the little fellow, Burkett noticed that he had colouration similar to both Golden-winged (Vermivora chrysoptera) and Blue-winged (Vermivora cyanoptera) warblers - but that his song was more like that of a Chestnut-sided warbler (Setophaga pensylvanica).

After spotting the strange bird several times, Burket reported his discovery on The Cornell Lab of Ornithology's birding website, eBird, and reached out to researchers.

"I tried to make the email sound somewhat intellectual so they wouldn't think I was a crackpot," Burket said.

"Within a week researcher David Toews came down. We found the bird again and collected a blood sample and measurements. It was a very interesting and exciting morning for us."

A few days later Burket got a text message from Towes, punctuated with several exclamation marks - it turned out the amateur bird-watcher had been correct in his observations.

The researchers studied the genes that code for colouration, and used those to piece together what the mother bird would have looked like - arriving at a Brewster's warbler mum and a Chestnut-sided warbler dad.

It's the first time this hybrid combination has ever been seen. But it's also sobering. Some populations of Golden-winged warblers have declined dramatically across Appalachia.

A new type of hybridisation event could indicate that there are not enough mates for everyone, so the birds are having to look to other species for reproductive options.

"That this hybridisation occurred within a population of Golden-winged warblers in significant decline suggests that females may be making the best of a bad situation," Toews said.

"It also tells us that wood-warblers in general have remained genetically compatible long after they evolved major differences in appearance."

We know that some bird hybrids remain fertile, and are able to reproduce - after all, the triple-hybrid's mum was a hybrid herself. At this time, though, it's not known whether the triple hybrid will be able to reproduce - or, even if he can, whether he looks too weird for female birds to choose him as a mate.

It's definitely a situation that bears watching, though - not just for the individual bird, and the warblers of Appalachia, but for what it can tell us about avian hybridisation in general.

"This finding of 'hybrids hybridising' provides a novel avenue for the movement of genes between distantly related taxa not yet observed or described in birds," the researchers wrote in their paper.

The discovery has been published in the journal Biology Letters.

https://www.sciencealert.com/this-tiny-birb-is-three-different-species-in-one-adorable-package
 
nut said:
That’s the real question though ...if there is a god? How did he/she/it get created?
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What is a "god"?

My view is that there is no god in the classical sense, the elements arose from stellar nucleosynthesis, then life arose from complex chemical reactions over time.
 
Snake_Baker said:
What is a "god"?

My view is that there is no god in the classical sense, the elements arose from stellar nucleosynthesis, then life arose from complex chemical reactions over time.
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Could this have created a god though? And then this “god” created everything else?

Interesting thread ...
 
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