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Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
The 'DNP's come end of seasons will definitely hurt his fantasy owner.
But his stats from last season are better than the following centres/PF's that have been taken before him (to name a few):
Boozer
Ilgauskas
Kaman
West
Don't be too quick to judge.
PS: However I understand if people are bypassing him to address other positions.
The 'DNP's come end of seasons will definitely hurt his fantasy owner.
But his stats from last season are better than the following centres/PF's that have been taken before him (to name a few):
Boozer
Ilgauskas
Kaman
West
Don't be too quick to judge.
PS: However I understand if people are bypassing him to address other positions.
Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
Shaq contributes nothing to treys... very little to steals and assists and hurts FT% badly, and T/Os as well.
That's 5/9 categories he sucks at, and he will likely miss 20 games.
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Shaq contributes nothing to treys... very little to steals and assists and hurts FT% badly, and T/Os as well.
That's 5/9 categories he sucks at, and he will likely miss 20 games.
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Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
So based on your argument you wouldn't pick Baron Davis either? As he has woeful FT%, poor FT%, commits too many TO's, can't rebound and will miss 40 games!
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So based on your argument you wouldn't pick Baron Davis either? As he has woeful FT%, poor FT%, commits too many TO's, can't rebound and will miss 40 games!
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Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
I'd pick Baron Davis well before Shaq.
If you discount the injury factor...
Baron has 4 strong categories: Points, Assists, Stls, Treys
and ok category: rebounds
4 poor categories: fg%, ft%, t/os blocks
But for a PG... 2.9 t/os are to be expected, especially when you are dishing out 9 assists a game (3:1 assist/to ratio is very good)... and 0.3 blocks is the norm as well.
the FG% and FT% hurt, but don't hurt as much as Shaq's FT% because of the volume of attempts Shaq has from the line. You still can compensate for having Baron and build a side with good FT%'s to cover him, but it is very hard to do with Shaq because of the number of times he goes to the line, and his % is 46.
Shaq's numbers are also dwindling... 20 points, 9 boards and 1.8 blocks last season, and probably will drop again this season... due to his age.
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I'd pick Baron Davis well before Shaq.
If you discount the injury factor...
Baron has 4 strong categories: Points, Assists, Stls, Treys
and ok category: rebounds
4 poor categories: fg%, ft%, t/os blocks
But for a PG... 2.9 t/os are to be expected, especially when you are dishing out 9 assists a game (3:1 assist/to ratio is very good)... and 0.3 blocks is the norm as well.
the FG% and FT% hurt, but don't hurt as much as Shaq's FT% because of the volume of attempts Shaq has from the line. You still can compensate for having Baron and build a side with good FT%'s to cover him, but it is very hard to do with Shaq because of the number of times he goes to the line, and his % is 46.
Shaq's numbers are also dwindling... 20 points, 9 boards and 1.8 blocks last season, and probably will drop again this season... due to his age.
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Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
Shaq takes holidays during fantasy finals
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Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
I've just noticed that Artest is listed as SG/SF in the draft, when his in fact a SF so someone will need to change Artest to a SF not SG/SF, we wouldn't want DBAHO to finish his drafting & then to find out that his got no-one to play the SG position.
I've just noticed that Artest is listed as SG/SF in the draft, when his in fact a SF so someone will need to change Artest to a SF not SG/SF, we wouldn't want DBAHO to finish his drafting & then to find out that his got no-one to play the SG position.
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Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
Who needs SG's
morpheus said:I've just noticed that Artest is listed as SG/SF in the draft, when his in fact a SF so someone will need to change Artest to a SF not SG/SF, we wouldn't want DBAHO to finish his drafting & then to find out that his got no-one to play the SG position.
Who needs SG's
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EDIT - It's ok, Josh Smith is listed as a SG, so it's all good.
Brilliant, I assumed he was both positions because I thought I saw that on a Yahoo fantasy sports site.morpheus said:I've just noticed that Artest is listed as SG/SF in the draft, when his in fact a SF so someone will need to change Artest to a SF not SG/SF, we wouldn't want DBAHO to finish his drafting & then to find out that his got no-one to play the SG position.
EDIT - It's ok, Josh Smith is listed as a SG, so it's all good.
Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
I believe he needs PGs more than SGs. And 3 of the 4 picks previous to his, top shelf PGs were taken.
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I believe he needs PGs more than SGs. And 3 of the 4 picks previous to his, top shelf PGs were taken.
Any updated stats Falchoon?
How is everyone's side looking...
Mine so far is
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Josh Howard
SF: Rashard Lewis
PF: Shawn Marion
C: Boris Diaw
Util: Jason Terry
How is everyone's side looking...
Mine so far is
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Josh Howard
SF: Rashard Lewis
PF: Shawn Marion
C: Boris Diaw
Util: Jason Terry
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Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
Not only did that not work, Andre Miller the next best PG got taken before me.
I should have grabbed Marbury 1st and then Okafor.
Yeah my strategy was to take the best big, and hope I could get one of Davis or Marbury.Kenny_01 said:
Not only did that not work, Andre Miller the next best PG got taken before me.
I should have grabbed Marbury 1st and then Okafor.
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Pushing my luck if I do it from work
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Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
I know I took 'em
I don't have a SG
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I know
I took 'em I don't have a SG
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Round 5:
5.01 Kenny_01 - Jason Terry
There’s only one area where Terry hurts you – and that’s his poor assists for a PG (by all reports though, he’ll be more of a SG this season. Whether Yahoo gives him that eligibility is another question). Fortunately for Kenny, he already has Kidd & Diaw so those missing assists aren’t as much of a problem as they could be. Otherwise, Terry helps you everywhere: outstanding %’s, great 3’s & steals, low t/o’s for a guard. Terry is a big-game player IMO and let’s see if he delivers in a slightly different role this season.
5.02 sirjames - Chris Kaman
Here’s a guy I naively thought I could pick up at the end of the 5th round. Kaman showed a lot of improvement last season to become one of the top fantasy C’s. He provides all the necessary things from the C position - good rebounds, blocks and fg% - making him a valuable commodity for both the Clippers and your fantasy team. The ft% is a bonus, but I’m not sure how Kaman managed to turn the ball over more than 2 times per game, given that the offense doesn’t really go through him. Going on a player-by-player basis, perhaps a pick or 2 too early, but I think sirjames would be happy with his last 2 rounds as he managed to find 2 reliable C’s.
5.03 X_Box_X - David West
Here’s a guy you can say virtually nothing negative about fantasy-wise. West showed that with playing time comes results and I see no reason why he can’t have another good season. The pts are there, the %’s are fantastic, the rebounds are acceptable, he gets almost a steal and a block per game, plus he hit a couple of game winners last season which probably helped keep his confidence high. Another solid player added to the X_Box_X roster.
5.04 morpheus - Caron Butler
I remember drafting Caron Butler in last seasons BigFooty league then dropping him after a few weeks because he wasn’t starting. Big mistake. He got the start and ended up with a career year. He’s always provided some of the best ft% ad steals numbers in the league and now he’s an important scorer in the Wizards’ high-octane offense. A nice pick up here.
5.05 GeeCat - Jameer Nelson
Another young PG on the rise for GeeCat. Nelson is a surprisingly efficient scorer and his assists and steals are what you’d want from your PG position. Went through a few hot and cold patches last season and you have to wonder whether there will be any time-sharing with Arroyo. If Orlando get off to a good start this season, expect Nelson to get the bulk of the minutes at PG, resulting in a nice pick here.
5.06 Showbag - Shaquille O'Neal
Everyone is hesitant to take him, but Showbag finally bit the bullet and given who is already on his roster, he probably won’t mind saying goodbye to ft%. We know the book on Shaq and others raised a good point that he is likely to sit out games during the fantasy playoffs. I think he fits Showbag’s team well and will put up no’s worthy of a pick here, but could Showbag have waited and picked him up in the next round?
5.07 voodoo_86 - Andre Iguodala
“Jack of all trades, master of none”. To be honest, I think Iguodala is a bit overrated in fantasy and might have been a better pick in the next round. Still, you have to love the all-round no’s (especially the fg% and the steals) and if he finally breaks out this season then voodoo will be laughing and I’ll have egg on my face.
5.08 Borgsta - Chris Webber
Webber is a crafty player – too bad he’s not a healthy one. Moving around on the court like the old guy on a social team, Webber nonetheless gets the job done and puts up great no’s. Getting 20/10 as this point in the draft is great, especially if he can get through 75 games like he managed to last year.
5.09 Colonel Matrix - Manu Ginobili
This guy was bothered by injury all last season and the Spurs’ depth means he may not get the time to produce the stats he’s fully capable of. Good 3’s and steals of course, and the assists are good for the SG position too. Better in ‘real-life’ than in fantasy unfortunately.
5.10 DBAH0 - Emeka Okafor
Forget last season’s injuries. Okafor’s slimmed down and should be I expect him not to miss too many games. Look at the rebound, block and steals totals – fantastic. Now look at the %’s – horrible. If Okafor can pick those up – particularly the fg% - then DBAH0 has a good #1 Centre here.
5.11 Falchoon - Baron Davis
New season, new coach, same old injuries? He says he’s in great shape, but you can never trust a man called Baron I guess. The %’s will also worry Falchoon, but when Davis is in full flight, he provides a combination of 3’s, steals, and assists that can’t be matched. A calculated risk here.
5.12 hans moleman -Stephon Marbury
New season, new coach, same old ego? I wanted another PG and was preparing myself to take Baron Davis and his unpredictability and regret it straight after. Falchoon spared me that, so instead a picked Marbury and regretted it straight after. If he regains some form and gests at least 19/8 then I think it’ll be worth it here.
Best pick – Butler. Vesatile player
Worst pick – Shaq. Just too many uncertainties.
5.01 Kenny_01 - Jason Terry
There’s only one area where Terry hurts you – and that’s his poor assists for a PG (by all reports though, he’ll be more of a SG this season. Whether Yahoo gives him that eligibility is another question). Fortunately for Kenny, he already has Kidd & Diaw so those missing assists aren’t as much of a problem as they could be. Otherwise, Terry helps you everywhere: outstanding %’s, great 3’s & steals, low t/o’s for a guard. Terry is a big-game player IMO and let’s see if he delivers in a slightly different role this season.
5.02 sirjames - Chris Kaman
Here’s a guy I naively thought I could pick up at the end of the 5th round. Kaman showed a lot of improvement last season to become one of the top fantasy C’s. He provides all the necessary things from the C position - good rebounds, blocks and fg% - making him a valuable commodity for both the Clippers and your fantasy team. The ft% is a bonus, but I’m not sure how Kaman managed to turn the ball over more than 2 times per game, given that the offense doesn’t really go through him. Going on a player-by-player basis, perhaps a pick or 2 too early, but I think sirjames would be happy with his last 2 rounds as he managed to find 2 reliable C’s.
5.03 X_Box_X - David West
Here’s a guy you can say virtually nothing negative about fantasy-wise. West showed that with playing time comes results and I see no reason why he can’t have another good season. The pts are there, the %’s are fantastic, the rebounds are acceptable, he gets almost a steal and a block per game, plus he hit a couple of game winners last season which probably helped keep his confidence high. Another solid player added to the X_Box_X roster.
5.04 morpheus - Caron Butler
I remember drafting Caron Butler in last seasons BigFooty league then dropping him after a few weeks because he wasn’t starting. Big mistake. He got the start and ended up with a career year. He’s always provided some of the best ft% ad steals numbers in the league and now he’s an important scorer in the Wizards’ high-octane offense. A nice pick up here.
5.05 GeeCat - Jameer Nelson
Another young PG on the rise for GeeCat. Nelson is a surprisingly efficient scorer and his assists and steals are what you’d want from your PG position. Went through a few hot and cold patches last season and you have to wonder whether there will be any time-sharing with Arroyo. If Orlando get off to a good start this season, expect Nelson to get the bulk of the minutes at PG, resulting in a nice pick here.
5.06 Showbag - Shaquille O'Neal
Everyone is hesitant to take him, but Showbag finally bit the bullet and given who is already on his roster, he probably won’t mind saying goodbye to ft%. We know the book on Shaq and others raised a good point that he is likely to sit out games during the fantasy playoffs. I think he fits Showbag’s team well and will put up no’s worthy of a pick here, but could Showbag have waited and picked him up in the next round?
5.07 voodoo_86 - Andre Iguodala
“Jack of all trades, master of none”. To be honest, I think Iguodala is a bit overrated in fantasy and might have been a better pick in the next round. Still, you have to love the all-round no’s (especially the fg% and the steals) and if he finally breaks out this season then voodoo will be laughing and I’ll have egg on my face.
5.08 Borgsta - Chris Webber
Webber is a crafty player – too bad he’s not a healthy one. Moving around on the court like the old guy on a social team, Webber nonetheless gets the job done and puts up great no’s. Getting 20/10 as this point in the draft is great, especially if he can get through 75 games like he managed to last year.
5.09 Colonel Matrix - Manu Ginobili
This guy was bothered by injury all last season and the Spurs’ depth means he may not get the time to produce the stats he’s fully capable of. Good 3’s and steals of course, and the assists are good for the SG position too. Better in ‘real-life’ than in fantasy unfortunately.
5.10 DBAH0 - Emeka Okafor
Forget last season’s injuries. Okafor’s slimmed down and should be I expect him not to miss too many games. Look at the rebound, block and steals totals – fantastic. Now look at the %’s – horrible. If Okafor can pick those up – particularly the fg% - then DBAH0 has a good #1 Centre here.
5.11 Falchoon - Baron Davis
New season, new coach, same old injuries? He says he’s in great shape, but you can never trust a man called Baron I guess. The %’s will also worry Falchoon, but when Davis is in full flight, he provides a combination of 3’s, steals, and assists that can’t be matched. A calculated risk here.
5.12 hans moleman -Stephon Marbury
New season, new coach, same old ego? I wanted another PG and was preparing myself to take Baron Davis and his unpredictability and regret it straight after. Falchoon spared me that, so instead a picked Marbury and regretted it straight after. If he regains some form and gests at least 19/8 then I think it’ll be worth it here.
Best pick – Butler. Vesatile player
Worst pick – Shaq. Just too many uncertainties.
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Kenny_01 said:I think he is trying to tell you to buy a new calculator
Might need a name change to the "if only" 's
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Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
I probably would have taken Okafor.
My choices were
1. Davis
2. Marbury
3. Miller
4. Okafor
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I probably would have taken Okafor.
My choices were
1. Davis
2. Marbury
3. Miller
4. Okafor
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Re: Fantasy NBA - Expansion League Draft Thread
It's easier to get a better PG than it is to get a better C at this stage of the draft.
Either way I'm happy at least that I ended up with a possible #1 center.Falchoon said:
It's easier to get a better PG than it is to get a better C at this stage of the draft.
