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Expectations for 2026

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It's interesting looking at the bottom 10 sides and where the improvement would come from for each.

9th - Bulldogs.
Didn't end up improving their side much, if at all, during the offseason. Only senior player added was Budarick form GC. They do have Weightman to come back, after missing the entire 2025 season with a false joint in his kneecap(wtf?). Should be finishing a lot higher than they have in recent years and I've said numerous times that I don't think Beveridge is the man to take them to the promised land a 2nd time. Also failed to address their KPD needs.

10th - Sydney
Shocker year considering they made the GF the season prior. Having said that they did the exact same thing the last time they got thumped in the GF but they at least have the excuse of having a new coach this year. Cox certainly made some big changes during the offseason, punting Hayward and Florent to Carlton and receiving Curnow in the extended trade. With the addition of Curnow, Sydney have addressed a huge problem their side has had for a number of years, so expect them to bounce back up in 2026.

11th - Carlton.

Lost Curnow to Sydney but did add Florent, Hayward, Ainsworth, Chesser and Reidy via trades, so they've probably lifted their floor somewhat significantly when you compared those guys to the delisted players. Curnow's a huge out obviously but they still have another Coleman medalist and they've added a bit more firepower up forward with Ainsworth and Hayward. Hard to place this lot. If Smith comes back clean from his ACL, he could have an impact, even though he hasn't played a senior game yet but he had no issues stepping up from CTL to VFL in his draft year.

12th - St Kilda.
Big moves during the offseason will have the club feeling they should push for finals. Flanders and De Koning should improve their midfield a fair bit, whilst Ryan should bolster their forward line, as will Silvagni their defence. I'm unsure if they improved enough with the trade ins to actually push much further up the ladder though and will certainly be banking on NWM to retain his form with the added attention, as well as the like of Wilson showing his final game of the season was no fluke. Got some good kids coming through but are they experienced enough to actually impact the team's finals push?

13th - Port.
Did nothing meaningful to improve their side this offseason and JHF has already started the preseason by reaggravating his foot injury on top of looking like Harley did when he came back last preseason. Could drop down further now that Carr's finally got full control and may be a case of one step back to make 2 forward in 2027. Hard to see where the improvement comes from.

14th - Melbourne.
Dumped Petracca and Oliver whilst asking Steven May to piss off. No natural improvement to come from players brought in this offseason for 2026 but it's clear they're looking to rejuvenate their list under the new coach. Actively made their side worse in the short term to get better later.

15th - Essendon.
Injury issues for the past couple of seasons and now an internal review has concluded that the players 'didn't train hard enough' under the old S&C crew. Matt Innes now heading it up, so expect a lot more 'broken' players this offseason(they're already experiencing it) like he did with WCE to improve them long term. No notable trades, other than a mature player in Fiorini, and they also lost a couple of B22 players alongside Martin potentially missing the entire 2026 season. No significant improvement to the side this offseason.

16th - North Melbourne.
With access to talent rivaling a start up side, the fact this club has been shit for so long would have anyone's head scratching, including their coach who admitted the defensive plan he's been working on for the past 3 season was utter shite and has handed the reins over to another coach to come up with an AFL standard defensive system. If they can manage that, then that alone should see them jump up. I'll believe it when I see it but even though they made no significant additions to their team this offseason, they 'should' finally break out of the bottom 4 at the very least. They should realistically be pushing the top 8 but it's impossible to have any faith in this team currently.

17th - Richmond.
With pick 99, Richmond brought in Patrick Retschko from Geelong. Other than that, they made no improvement to their side via the trade period and let go of a number of senior players, so they are actively getting younger. A couple of their top picks from last year have had interrupted preseasons, although it's now Smillie who's still out of action, after only managing 4 VFL games last year. They haven't actively improved their side this offseason for 2026, so expect them to tread water, or perhaps even vie for the spoon, as the only way they'll improve from their current position is if 2024's crop significantly improve, or 2025's are key players straight out of the blocks.

18th - West Coast.
Obviously a horrific, one-win season. Having said that, the kids did a lot of the heavy lifting around the ground, which will be invaluable experience. Once Yeo was out in the preseason, we knew we'd have midfield issues and this was further exacerbated by the losses of Gov and Waterman, as well as Sheed retiring. Still, there were strong signs the team was on the improve and despite the one win for the year, WCE actually achieved a higher % than 2 out of the previous 3 seasons. Had a couple of those senior players not been out of the side through injury, we probably win those close ones against Richmond and Essendon at the very least, as well as potentially the game against Adelaide late in the season, which was also missing Harley. Out of the bottom 4, the Eagles were the team to improve the most significantly via the trade period and other mature signings. They are also ahead of both Essendon, Richmond and Melbourne in regards to list turnover and development age of young players.



Now, I'm not saying we're going to push finals or anything but compared to the bottom 4, WCE have improved their list the most during the 2025 offseason, with the caveat that North have a bazillion first rounders and should never have finished that low to begin with.

Will we make it out of the bottom 4 in 2026? Doubtful based on recent form, but if we compare ourselves to Richmond, Essendon and Melbourne, we should certainly be thinking we're a real possibility to finish above those 3 teams.

TLDR: Eagles are the best, book your GF tickets now.
 
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In years past ; looking at our list ; I would say we should comfortably play finals.
Great defence,a list of big men the envy of the league,great key forwards,mids looking good.Lacking small forwards but got lots of mid size forwards.
But then I remember the last three years. My confidence has been shot to pieces.
 
It's interesting looking at the bottom 10 sides and where the improvement would come from for each.

9th - Bulldogs.
Didn't end up improving their side much, if at all, during the offseason. Only senior player added was Budarick form GC. They do have Weightman to come back, after missing the entire 2025 season with a false joint in his kneecap(wtf?). Should be finishing a lot higher than they have in recent years and I've said numerous times that I don't think Beveridge is the man to take them to the promised land a 2nd time. Also failed to address their KPD needs.

10th - Sydney
Shocker year considering they made the GF the season prior. Having said that they did the exact same thing the last time they got thumped in the GF but they at least have the excuse of having a new coach this year. Cox certainly made some big changes during the offseason, punting Hayward and Florent to Carlton and receiving Curnow in the extended trade. With the addition of Curnow, Sydney have addressed a huge problem their side has had for a number of years, so expect them to bounce back up in 2026.

11th - Carlton.

Lost Curnow to Sydney but did add Florent, Hayward, Ainsworth, Chesser and Reidy via trades, so they've probably lifted their floor somewhat significantly when you compared those guys to the delisted players. Curnow's a huge out obviously but they still have another Coleman medalist and they've added a bit more firepower up forward with Ainsworth and Hayward. Hard to place this lot. If Smith comes back clean from his ACL, he could have an impact, even though he hasn't played a senior game yet but he had no issues stepping up from CTL to VFL in his draft year.

12th - St Kilda.
Big moves during the offseason will have the club feeling they should push for finals. Flanders and De Koning should improve their midfield a fair bit, whilst Ryan should bolster their forward line, as will Silvagni their defence. I'm unsure if they improved enough with the trade ins to actually push much further up the ladder though and will certainly be banking on NWM to retain his form with the added attention, as well as the like of Wilson showing his final game of the season was no fluke. Got some good kids coming through but are they experienced enough to actually impact the team's finals push?

13th - Port.
Did nothing meaningful to improve their side this offseason and JHF has already started the preseason by reaggravating his foot injury on top of looking like Harley did when he came back last preseason. Could drop down further now that Carr's finally got full control and may be a case of one step back to make 2 forward in 2027. Hard to see where the improvement comes from.

14th - Melbourne.
Dumped Petracca and Oliver whilst asking Steven May to piss off. No natural improvement to come from players brought in this offseason for 2026 but it's clear they're looking to rejuvenate their list under the new coach. Actively made their side worse in the short term to get better later.

15th - Essendon.
Injury issues for the past couple of seasons and now an internal review has concluded that the players 'didn't train hard enough' under the old S&C crew. Matt Innes now heading it up, so expect a lot more 'broken' players this offseason(they're already experiencing it) like he did with WCE to improve them long term. No notable trades, other than a mature player in Fiorini, and they also lost a couple of B22 players alongside Martin potentially missing the entire 2026 season. No significant improvement to the side this offseason.

16th - North Melbourne.
With access to talent rivaling a start up side, the fact this club has been shit for so long would have anyone's head scratching, including their coach who admitted the defensive plan he's been working on for the past 3 season was utter shite and has handed the reins over to another coach to come up with an AFL standard defensive system. If they can manage that, then that alone should see them jump up. I'll believe it when I see it but even though they made no significant additions to their team this offseason, they 'should' finally break out of the bottom 4 at the very least. They should realistically be pushing the top 8 but it's impossible to have any faith in this team currently.

17th - Richmond.
With pick 99, Richmond brought in Patrick Retschko from Geelong. Other than that, they made no improvement to their side via the trade period and let go of a number of senior players, so they are actively getting younger. A couple of their top picks from last year have had interrupted preseasons, although it's now Smillie who's still out of action, after only managing 4 VFL games last year. They haven't actively improved their side this offseason for 2026, so expect them to tread water, or perhaps even vie for the spoon, as the only way they'll improve from their current position is if 2024's crop significantly improve, or 2025's are key players straight out of the blocks.

18th - West Coast.
Obviously a horrific, one-win season. Having said that, the kids did a lot of the heavy lifting around the ground, which will be invaluable experience. Once Yeo was out in the preseason, we knew we'd have midfield issues and this was further exacerbated by the losses of Gov and Waterman, as well as Sheed retiring. Still, there were strong signs the team was on the improve and despite the one win for the year, WCE actually achieved a higher % than 2 out of the previous 3 seasons. Had a couple of those senior players not been out of the side through injury, we probably win those close ones against Richmond and Essendon at the very least, as well as potentially the game against Adelaide late in the season, which was also missing Harley. Out of the bottom 4, the Eagles were the team to improve the most significantly via the trade period and other mature signings. They are also ahead of both Essendon, Richmond and Melbourne in regards to list turnover and development age of young players.



Now, I'm not saying we're going to push finals or anything but compared to the bottom 4, WCE have improved their list the most during the 2025 offseason, with the caveat that North have a bazillion first rounders and should never have finished that low to begin with.

Will we make it out of the bottom 4 in 2026? Doubtful based on recent form, but if we compare ourselves to Richmond, Essendon and Melbourne, we should certainly be thinking we're a real possibility to finish above those 3 teams.

TLDR: Eagles are the best, book your GF tickets now.
Depending on what happens with injuries to other teams, I can see all the teams in your list potentially struggling next year with the exception of the Bulldogs, Swans and Saints.

If the Eagles can avoid too many injuries to key players, and if Mini's game plan finally clicks and the young talent all improve organically by 10-20%, I can see us bouncing out of the bottom 4 with 5-7 wins.

We were quite competitive in roughly 3 quarters of footy last year with a young team and new coach, missing a lot of senior players throughout the year.
 

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Waterman will be chomping at the bit. Looked to be easily backing up his 2024 season until injured, even with that crippled s**tstain Allen ****ing up the forward line balance (I haven't checked how many games they played together before some pedantic kent actuallys me, pure vibes).
 
18th but will surprise some teams like in 2024 and go on a bit of a run (hopefully) 4 wins?
Agree with 4 wins and last. Hopefully (and it's a big amount of hopium) Richmond end up last and save us from the indignity of another spoon.

Reading through all of the comments in the thread I don't think anyone has emphasised the effect of losing both Barrass and McGovern has had on the side. Their replacements in Brock and Edwards likely wouldn't get a game in any other side.

There will be improvement from this year but not enough to get us off the bottom.
 
Agree with 4 wins and last. Hopefully (and it's a big amount of hopium) Richmond end up last and save us from the indignity of another spoon.

Reading through all of the comments in the thread I don't think anyone has emphasised the effect of losing both Barrass and McGovern has had on the side. Their replacements in Brock and Edwards likely wouldn't get a game in any other side.

There will be improvement from this year but not enough to get us off the bottom.
It took a lot of bad luck for us to finish last in 2025. There were several close games we should have won but didn't quite come together. As others have said, we've improved our squad a lot more than the other teams around us. If we have even an average run of luck, I see us finishing above Richmond, Bombers and probably Melbourne.

If it clicks for us and not others, I can easily see a jump to the next level with 8-10 wins.
 
I think there’s reason to believe we’ll improve next year, but it’s unlikely we escape the bottom 2, let alone the bottom 4. In the last 4 years:

•2022- 14th was Adelaide (8 wins, 86.7%) with GWS 16th (6 wins, 84.6%)
•2023- 14th was Fremantle (10 wins, 96.7%) with Hawthorn 16th (7 wins, 80.2%)
• 2024- 14th was Melbourne (11 wins, 98.5%) with Adelaide 15th (8.5 wins, 99.1%) - we were 16th on 5 wins and 68.1%
• 2025- 14th was Melbourne (7 wins, 93.3%) with Essendon (6 wins), North (5.5 wins) and Richmond (5 wins) finishing above us in the bottom 4

Going to need at least 5 wins to get out of the bottom 2 and at least 8 to move out of the bottom 4. The good news is all of Richmond, North, Essendon and Melbourne managed 7 wins or less in 2025 and might struggle again next year. Things could also potentially go pear shaped for Port and/or Carlton

So there’s a chance for us, but we’re coming from a long way back when you consider the following:

W/L vs opposition clubs 2022-25:

• Adelaide 0-7 (451/839 : 53.8%)
• Brisbane 0-4 (233/421 : 55.3%)
• Carlton 0-6 (302/714 : 42.3%)
• Collingwood 1-3 (240/385 : 62.3%)
• Essendon 1-5 (463/542 : 85.4%)
• Fremantle 1-7 (519/825 : 62.9%)
• Geelong 0-5 (346/632 : 54.7%)
• Gold Coast 1-5 (448/662 : 67.7%)
• GWS 1-4 (332/570 : 58.2%)
• Hawthorn 0-4 (210/462 : 45.5%)
• Melbourne 1-5 (396/667 : 59.4%)
• North 2-4 (432/461 : 93.7%)
• Port 0-4 (233/433 : 53.8%)
• Richmond 1-6 (511/751 : 68.0%)
• St Kilda 1-4 (356/450 : 79.1%)
• Sydney 0-4 (221/548 : 40.3%)
• Bulldogs 1-3 (214/478 : 44.8%)

North are the only club we’ve beaten twice, but we’ve still lost to them 4 times. We’ve not beaten 7 clubs at all in those 4 years and our percentage is over 70 against only St Kilda, Essendon and North. It’s below 50 against 4 clubs

We also have some nasty losing streaks developing:

• 7- Brisbane (Last win R23, 2018)
• 7- Adelaide (Last win R18, 2021)

• 6- Geelong (Last win R9, 2020)
• 6- Carlton (Last win R12, 2021)

• 5- Sydney (Last win R5, 2020)
• 5- Essendon (Last win R15, 2022)

• 4- Port (Last win R3, 2021)
• 4- Hawthorn (Last win R8, 2021)

• 3- Collingwood (Last win R4, 2022)
• 3- GWS (Last win R2, 2023)
• 3- Fremantle (Last win R7, 2024)
• 3- Melbourne (Last win R10, 2024)

• 2- Bulldogs (Last win R23, 2023)
• 2- Richmond (Last win R5, 2024)

• 1- Gold Coast (Last win R21, 2024)
• 1- North (Last win R22, 2024)

LOL
• 0- St Kilda (Last win R10, 2025)
LOL

Two games against each of North, Richmond and Port plus a home game against Essendon shape as our most winnable games which is a pretty short list
 
I think there’s reason to believe we’ll improve next year, but it’s unlikely we escape the bottom 2, let alone the bottom 4. In the last 4 years:

•2022- 14th was Adelaide (8 wins, 86.7%) with GWS 16th (6 wins, 84.6%)
•2023- 14th was Fremantle (10 wins, 96.7%) with Hawthorn 16th (7 wins, 80.2%)
• 2024- 14th was Melbourne (11 wins, 98.5%) with Adelaide 15th (8.5 wins, 99.1%) - we were 16th on 5 wins and 68.1%
• 2025- 14th was Melbourne (7 wins, 93.3%) with Essendon (6 wins), North (5.5 wins) and Richmond (5 wins) finishing above us in the bottom 4

Going to need at least 5 wins to get out of the bottom 2 and at least 8 to move out of the bottom 4. The good news is all of Richmond, North, Essendon and Melbourne managed 7 wins or less in 2025 and might struggle again next year. Things could also potentially go pear shaped for Port and/or Carlton

So there’s a chance for us, but we’re coming from a long way back when you consider the following:

W/L vs opposition clubs 2022-25:

• Adelaide 0-7 (451/839 : 53.8%)
• Brisbane 0-4 (233/421 : 55.3%)
• Carlton 0-6 (302/714 : 42.3%)
• Collingwood 1-3 (240/385 : 62.3%)
• Essendon 1-5 (463/542 : 85.4%)
• Fremantle 1-7 (519/825 : 62.9%)
• Geelong 0-5 (346/632 : 54.7%)
• Gold Coast 1-5 (448/662 : 67.7%)
• GWS 1-4 (332/570 : 58.2%)
• Hawthorn 0-4 (210/462 : 45.5%)
• Melbourne 1-5 (396/667 : 59.4%)
• North 2-4 (432/461 : 93.7%)
• Port 0-4 (233/433 : 53.8%)
• Richmond 1-6 (511/751 : 68.0%)
• St Kilda 1-4 (356/450 : 79.1%)
• Sydney 0-4 (221/548 : 40.3%)
• Bulldogs 1-3 (214/478 : 44.8%)

North are the only club we’ve beaten twice, but we’ve still lost to them 4 times. We’ve not beaten 7 clubs at all in those 4 years and our percentage is over 70 against only St Kilda, Essendon and North. It’s below 50 against 4 clubs

We also have some nasty losing streaks developing:

• 7- Brisbane (Last win R23, 2018)
• 7- Adelaide (Last win R18, 2021)

• 6- Geelong (Last win R9, 2020)
• 6- Carlton (Last win R12, 2021)

• 5- Sydney (Last win R5, 2020)
• 5- Essendon (Last win R15, 2022)

• 4- Port (Last win R3, 2021)
• 4- Hawthorn (Last win R8, 2021)

• 3- Collingwood (Last win R4, 2022)
• 3- GWS (Last win R2, 2023)
• 3- Fremantle (Last win R7, 2024)
• 3- Melbourne (Last win R10, 2024)

• 2- Bulldogs (Last win R23, 2023)
• 2- Richmond (Last win R5, 2024)

• 1- Gold Coast (Last win R21, 2024)
• 1- North (Last win R22, 2024)

LOL
• 0- St Kilda (Last win R10, 2025)
LOL

Two games against each of North, Richmond and Port plus a home game against Essendon shape as our most winnable games which is a pretty short list
This is all true but it ignores any improvement. Of course we can't beat anyone when we're shit, so win/loss records won't give any indication of future improvement.

I'm a bit more optimistic because I think there's a bunch of teams getting close to falling off a cliff (Bombers, Demons, Blues, Pies, Port) and North is probably the only other bottom 4 club that might be due a jump up. In other words, I see plenty of squads that are looking thinner than ours.
 
Another preseason and natural development for the kids + an injection of some top-end draft talent will be the main drivers of improvement (though hard to quantify right now).

Though we shouldn't underestimate these enablers -
  • Waterman, Starc & a fit Yeo are significant inclusions
  • Young is an upgrade in defense
  • Potential for one of Dev/Fin/Shoenberg staking their spot as a defensive-minded mid to unlock Harley & Hewitt
  • Another preseason (a full one this time) adapting to mini's gameplan
I think there's huge scope for improvement if we can put it all together.
 
It took a lot of bad luck for us to finish last in 2025. There were several close games we should have won but didn't quite come together. As others have said, we've improved our squad a lot more than the other teams around us. If we have even an average run of luck, I see us finishing above Richmond, Bombers and probably Melbourne.

If it clicks for us and not others, I can easily see a jump to the next level with 8-10 wins.
The guys we have recruited are hardly world beaters. Starc and Young will be handy but won't win us games.

If Dev, Macrae and Schoenburg are getting games then we're in big trouble. They are going to be making the Beagles a better team and that's about it.

Richmond beat us twice by a combined 7 goals, Bombers had worse luck than us and the Dees had 7 wins plus a % of 93. Not too sure if we can get above those 3.

We're still crap considering the new blokes and the improvement from the existing squad.

I'd love nothing more than getting off the bottom but I expect 1 more bad year before we start competing again.
 
Another preseason and natural development for the kids + an injection of some top-end draft talent will be the main drivers of improvement (though hard to quantify right now).

Though we shouldn't underestimate these enablers -
  • Waterman, Starc & a fit Yeo are significant inclusions
  • Young is an upgrade in defense
  • Potential for one of Dev/Fin/Shoenberg staking their spot as a defensive-minded mid to unlock Harley & Hewitt
  • Another preseason (a full one this time) adapting to mini's gameplan
I think there's huge scope for improvement if we can put it all together.
I think these are all solid points.

Young teams need leaders and people underestimate the importance of Yeo and Gov in our 5 win 2024 season.

I think Young will be a significant addition as well and Ginbey and Hough's form last season show that they are likely to continue improving into 2026.

Dev and Schoenberg are defensive minded ball hunters who will definitely help with the midfield rotations and take added pressure off Harley and Hewett. It will also ensure guys like Kelly earn their spot and play team footy running both ways.

If the reports are true, Harley is poised for a break out year and is a legitimate game changer. I hope Mini rests him forward and he really embraces that Dusty Martin 60/40 mid fwd role because we've seen he can take a hanger, rove packs and kick goals from 50. Bringing in the mature rookies only helps Harley go to the next level. I'd love to see Harley kick 20+ goals next year.

I'm not an Owies fan at all but objectively he didn't even get on the park last year and get a decent crack. He's another role player who could surprise and at the worst he's dominating for the Beagles.

Furthermore, our KPF stocks are continuing to rise. Jobe averaged 1.3 goals in his 9 games last year which is elite for a young KPF. Archer averaged 0.4 so has huge scope for growth next season and has added size according to reports.
CDT I have low expectations as a first year but only adds optimism. Jack Williams is due for a break out year.

Tom McCarthy could end up being the surprise packet of all our players as he is a big metres gained player and from reports is training the house down.

Include the natural improvement from the rest of the kids like Hamish Davis, Bo Allan, Willem, Grossy etc and there's a lot of reason for optimism. I think we will surprise a few and take a couple top 8 scalps
 

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I'm not an Owies fan at all but objectively he didn't even get on the park last year and get a decent crack. He's another role player who could surprise and at the worst he's dominating for the Beagles.
Not sure how 16 AFL games and only 1 WAFL game can be seen as not getting on the park and getting a decent crack.
 
I’m leaning towards genuine improvement in 2026, and a big part of that is getting Yeo back fit and playing consistent footy. Even if he’s not peak 2018 Yeo, his leadership, hardness, and ability to steady the midfield are things we’ve badly missed. When he’s on the park, the whole side looks far more organised.

Add to that a proper pre-season and natural progression from Harley Reid. I’m not expecting him to carry the side, but even a modest step forward lifts our midfield competitiveness significantly. Having Waterman back on the park is also a big plus, and with the drama surrounding Oscar now done and dusted (good riddance), the club finally feels like it can move forward without distractions.

What makes me optimistic is the improved midfield balance with Yeo back in the mix, the number of young players moving into the 50–100 game bracket, and the players brought in over the off-season who should add a better mix of experience and leadership, while still allowing the younger core to develop. There’s also genuine upside in the recruits coming through, rather than just list fillers.

We’re still rebuilding, so finals feel a couple of years away, but I expect fewer blowouts and more games where we’re competitive for four quarters. Depth will remain an issue if injuries hit again, but I don’t see the bottom two unless things seriously derail.

Finish 14th–16th, around 4-6 wins, and an improved percentage feels realistic.

2026 feels like the year the Eagles could regain some credibility.
 
Improvement basically entirely hinges on whether we can find a mid who can reliably win stoppages and get 25 touches a game. If that’s Harley then we’re going to be wasting his incredible talent on the outside and getting banged up at the coal face by oppo who’ll use any opportunity to stick a knee in his back.

People keep mentioning using the new mature agers as defensive mids, but what we really lack are ball winners. Hewett and Reid are always going to be high impact lower possession outside mids, we really need Yeo to be our ball pig.

Unfortunately we’ve ended up recruiting a glut of attacking outside leaning mids with Gross and Allen, likely Duursma, and McCarthy isn’t likely to become an inside mid all of a sudden.

Yeo can be that guy for us in the short term if they allow him to play that role. Lots of question marks over Hall and the three newbs. They could really hold the key if one of them suddenly flicks a switch
 
This is interesting, although a bit cherry-picked. If you look at us vs Richmond and North, it shows that our top 5 in coaches votes for the club didn't play a lot of games together compared to those 2 clubs. It also shows that Richmond seem to be carried pretty much exclusively by their older cohort(as we expected), with the youngest player being 25, whereas North and WCE have a mix of young and old. Having your best 5 players playing consistent footy together certainly helps.

Home and away games played together by a club's top five coaches' votes getters​

22: Adelaide, Sydney
21: Collingwood, St Kilda
20: Fremantle, Gold Coast, Hawthorn
19: Brisbane, North Melbourne, Richmond
15: Geelong
14: Melbourne
12: Western Bulldogs
11: Carlton, Port Adelaide, West Coast
10: Greater Western Sydney
9: Essendon
 

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Agree with 4 wins and last. Hopefully (and it's a big amount of hopium) Richmond end up last and save us from the indignity of another spoon.

Reading through all of the comments in the thread I don't think anyone has emphasised the effect of losing both Barrass and McGovern has had on the side. Their replacements in Brock and Edwards likely wouldn't get a game in any other side.

There will be improvement from this year but not enough to get us off the bottom.
Edwards improved out of sight. He finally started getting the balance right with marking or spoiling.Big unit and just needs to stay on the park.
Brock won’t be in our starting 23.
Hough,Ginbey,Macarthy,Starcevich and Baker would get a gig in most teams.
 
I like to be optimistic despite the one win season. Richmond, Melbourne, Carlton and some others are likely to get worse before they improve, North Melbourne and Essendon might never improve, Fremantle and St Kilda were both created in a lab to cause suffering to their own fans, so there will be opportunities for wins. 8 wins and 15th place finish for the Eagles, 12 wins for the Beagles, Tom Cole and Jake Waterman AA seasons.
 
I like to be optimistic despite the one win season. Richmond, Melbourne, Carlton and some others are likely to get worse before they improve, North Melbourne and Essendon might never improve, Fremantle and St Kilda were both created in a lab to cause suffering to their own fans, so there will be opportunities for wins. 8 wins and 15th place finish for the Eagles, 12 wins for the Beagles, Tom Cole and Jake Waterman AA seasons.
Tom Cole for an AA season - that's a big call. Never been close to it! Waterman would not surprize at all.
 
Edwards improved out of sight. He finally started getting the balance right with marking or spoiling.Big unit and just needs to stay on the park.
Brock won’t be in our starting 23.
Hough,Ginbey,Macarthy,Starcevich and Baker would get a gig in most teams.

Hough, Ginbey, Macarthy, Starcevich and Baker aren't KP.

The point I was trying to make was that we haven't come close to covering our KP McGovern and Barrass as Edwards and Brock are bog average.

If either of those 2 are playing, then we're in trouble. Hopefully Young will be a step up from those 2 but still with Young as well, we honestly need better players holding down our 2 key backs.

Unless our coach sees both CDT and Reid taking over both of those positions, I don't think we have our future key backs on our list. We're pretty thin down there.

We'd better have a plan in place that we can recruit some elite guys in as it's a long road ahead playing a combination of Edwards, Young and Brock.
 
The guys we have recruited are hardly world beaters. Starc and Young will be handy but won't win us games.

If Dev, Macrae and Schoenburg are getting games then we're in big trouble. They are going to be making the Beagles a better team and that's about it.

Richmond beat us twice by a combined 7 goals, Bombers had worse luck than us and the Dees had 7 wins plus a % of 93. Not too sure if we can get above those 3.

We're still crap considering the new blokes and the improvement from the existing squad.

I'd love nothing more than getting off the bottom but I expect 1 more bad year before we start competing again.
It just goes to show you have crap knowledge about our3 recruits. Dev, Macrae and Schoenberg were unfortunately playing for the top 3 teams in the competition and they would have been ranked somewhere between 24 and 30 in those 3 teams. Playing for West Coast,they will easily rank somewhere between 15 and 22. We didn't recruit them to just be Beagles players.
 
It just goes to show you have crap knowledge about our3 recruits. Dev, Macrae and Schoenberg were unfortunately playing for the top 3 teams in the competition and they would have been ranked somewhere between 24 and 30 in those 3 teams. Playing for West Coast,they will easily rank somewhere between 15 and 22. We didn't recruit them to just be Beagles players.
Care to guess how many games they will each play this year?

Not many I hope because they aren't best 23.

If they are playing, they're just taking games off our young blokes. Means we have had a horror injury list during the year.

Schoenberg has played 16 games in 3 years and his stat's for those games are rated as below average.

McCrae has played 21 over 5 years and has never had more than 10 kicks.

Dev is the standout with 47 games in 6 years with all of his stat's below average bar his tackle count.

I know it has been a lean 5 years and it's great that we are finally attracting other players, but they are the dregs of other teams. Just because they have come to us doesn't mean they should be getting a game.

I'd rather them teaching the kids in the Beagles and stopping the WAFL drubbings rather than taking games off Gross, Duursma, Hewett, Allan, Davis, Lindsay etc.
 

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