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MitchRobinson12 said:
Cripps 35 disposals, 23 contested, 11 clearances 2 goals.
Walsh 34 disposals, potentially underdone.
Kennedy 31 disposals, 17 contested, 6 clearances 1 goal.
Hewett 32 disposals, 18 contested, 7 clearances.

Cerra to be added.
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That’s legit scary….

Add another 30 disposals, 15 contested.

Unfortunately no Charlies for us probably; they’ll be stealing votes off each other!!
 

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WillHayward said:
Hey Baggers.
Great win.
Sorry to intrude but seriously how good is Hewett?
Bloke is always calm and composed.
Your midfield is just ridiculous.
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Love him more than the fact he is an absolute gun... he has contributed with Cerra to bring the best out of Kennedy & Cripps.
 
WillHayward said:
Hey Baggers.
Great win.
Sorry to intrude but seriously how good is Hewett?
Bloke is always calm and composed.
Your midfield is just ridiculous.
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We know, right?
Can't thank you enough for George.
Your team is going well too.
 
gbatman said:
It feels good to talk Carlton up like this, haven't really done this since about 2000.

Cripps, Walsh, Cerra, Hewett, Kennedy all in fine form is a terrific midfield nucleus.

I remember talking about our lack of players who can consistently get over 25 possessions in our midfield, I think for the last 20 years? Now we have 5 who regularly push 30. Not only that but hit the score board, but the body in and lay tackles. It's a massive change from what we have had. It's easily the best midfield we have had since 2000 and maybe even before that.

You could probably say that there is a wing spot that could be improved but lets wait and see.

The thing that gives me a lot to look forward to is also who is in the reserves.

Dow, he hasn't done much to date but he's just 22. That's about the age late bloomers begin to come on and his game in the reserves the other day was excellent. Carroll, this is a kid with heaps of talent, would be playing if we had the team we had the last few years. Kemp, not playing midfield but I see him as kind of the heir to Cripps' throne when he starts to slow down. Give him time though.

Then we have some forwards who sneak in there. Durdin when he went on the ball was excellent. Not much has been said about his game last week but he looked right at home when he spent a few minutes on the ball against the Tigers. Fisher is another, he's matured and can go in there and cause some havoc.

We aren't going to get to see the fab5 this week, but hopefully we do next week. IMO they all fit in really well together. Right mix of big strong bodies and elite runners.

There is still a fair bit to prove but the signs are good and we should be getting excited!
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Regarding that midfield disposal count, it's looking good.

We've had 7 players attend centre bounces across the last 2 games: Cripps, Hewett, Kennedy, Walsh, Cerra, Fisher & Setterfield. I'll count O'Brien in the disposal numbers here too, being a full-time wing.

We're getting an average of 27 disposals across those 8 players. The 'Fab 5' are all averaging 30 or more and the supporting characters are 19-20.

Ranking them by CBA:

Hewett: 25.5 CBA / 30 D
Cripps: 25 / 32.5
Kennedy: 21.5 / 32
Cerra*: 21 / 30
Walsh*: 17 / 34
Fisher: 1.5 / 19.5
Setterfield: 0.5 / 19.5
O'Brien: 0 / 19

*Cerra & Walsh obviously only the single game each.

Will be interesting to see how they fit Cerra in next week, regarding CBA & wing/fwd rotations. Can see Fish & Setters losing their on-ball cameos. Also if Walsh & Cerra (& Hewett?) are going to spend some time on the wing, effectively sharing one of the wing roles, who is the incumbent wing that makes way? Are they taking the more offensive role O'Brien has or does he keep his spot and Setters loses his more defensive wing role? Or is it some other permutation?
 
The explosion in disposals through out the midfield group is a reflection of how good they are at working together and maintaining possession.
However I think the numbers are a tad inflated. There is a lot more handball under pressure going on,even handballing backwards, until the ball carrier is in a non contested situation.
Our handballs are now slick and clean. So they happen very fast and get racked up quickly.

They are not cheap possessions, imo they are really intelligent evolution of our game plan,that ultimately leads to far more effective kicks forward, often with low flat and accurate projectory. We are no longer the bomb it long specialists.

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therubbernub said:
The explosion in disposals through out the midfield group is a reflection of how good they are at working together and maintaining possession.
However I think the numbers are a tad inflated. There is a lot more handball under pressure going on,even handballing backwards, until the ball carrier is in a non contested situation.
Our handballs are now slick and clean. So they happen very fast and get racked up quickly.

They are not cheap possessions, imo they are really intelligent evolution of our game plan,that ultimately leads to far more effective kicks forward, often with low flat and accurate projectory. We are no longer the bomb it long specialists.

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It’s the maintaining of possession until an option presents itself is very pleasing to watch
What a transformation and you can see there is genuine love for each other
It’s fantastic
It really is fantastic to watch
It’s genuine
Well done new carlton you’ve turn the corner
 
CJMB said:
Regarding that midfield disposal count, it's looking good.

We've had 7 players attend centre bounces across the last 2 games: Cripps, Hewett, Kennedy, Walsh, Cerra, Fisher & Setterfield. I'll count O'Brien in the disposal numbers here too, being a full-time wing.

We're getting an average of 27 disposals across those 8 players. The 'Fab 5' are all averaging 30 or more and the supporting characters are 19-20.

Ranking them by CBA:

Hewett: 25.5 CBA / 30 D
Cripps: 25 / 32.5
Kennedy: 21.5 / 32
Cerra*: 21 / 30
Walsh*: 17 / 34
Fisher: 1.5 / 19.5
Setterfield: 0.5 / 19.5
O'Brien: 0 / 19

*Cerra & Walsh obviously only the single game each.

Will be interesting to see how they fit Cerra in next week, regarding CBA & wing/fwd rotations. Can see Fish & Setters losing their on-ball cameos. Also if Walsh & Cerra (& Hewett?) are going to spend some time on the wing, effectively sharing one of the wing roles, who is the incumbent wing that makes way? Are they taking the more offensive role O'Brien has or does he keep his spot and Setters loses his more defensive wing role? Or is it some other permutation?
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Yes I think Cerra and Walsh play a bit more wing and we might see some of them forward a little more. Carra, Cripps, Kennedy can all go forward and impact the game. What an amazing problem to have, it's a hell of a midfield.

I still think upside O'Brien may be slightly ahead but both have been reasonable. O'Brien's kicking is out of form and Setterfield is kicking a little better than usual so it's tough. It's a really hard decision to make. It's one we can't get wrong IMO but it's one we have to make. Do you go for the bigger body or the more outside running player. Be interesting to see how they go, hopefully Covid does not make the decision for us.
 
gbatman said:
Yes I think Cerra and Walsh play a bit more wing and we might see some of them forward a little more. Carra, Cripps, Kennedy can all go forward and impact the game. What an amazing problem to have, it's a hell of a midfield.

I still think upside O'Brien may be slightly ahead but both have been reasonable. O'Brien's kicking is out of form and Setterfield is kicking a little better than usual so it's tough. It's a really hard decision to make. It's one we can't get wrong IMO but it's one we have to make. Do you go for the bigger body or the more outside running player. Be interesting to see how they go, hopefully Covid does not make the decision for us.
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What happens if cunners comes back well
Fab 6?
 

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WillHayward said:
Hey Baggers.
Great win.
Sorry to intrude but seriously how good is Hewett?
Bloke is always calm and composed.
Your midfield is just ridiculous.
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The player I used to most admire in the Hawks’ premiership teams was Brad Sewell. A very good footballer, but he often sacrificed his game to allow Lewis, Hodge, and Mitchell to play. George Hewett is doing that for us. He’ll never catch the eye of the media, but every week he will show up and just do what he’s in the side to do - and that is to make Cripps, Cerra, Walsh, and Kennedy more damaging players. I love him. Already close to the most structurally important player on our list. Thanks for sending him our way!
 
forever blue 1 said:
What happens if cunners comes back well
Fab 6?
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Not sure he is at that level but let's wait and see. He would fit in well into this side, it's a great team to come into if you have an outside game.

It's unreal. The last time us Carlton supporters gloated over having a great midfield and a great handball game it was the mid 90s.
 
gbatman said:
Not sure he is at that level but let's wait and see. He would fit in well into this side, it's a great team to come into if you have an outside game.

It's unreal. The last time us Carlton supporters gloated over having a great midfield and a great handball game it was the mid 90s.
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Is our midfield the strongest in the comp? As in compare our 5th best midfielder against any other club?
 

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So what happens when Dow comes on?

Would be interesting to push Walsh and Cerra to the wings and have Cripps, Kennedy, Dow in the centre Hewett in the guts.

What an amazing turn around from having the thinnest midfield in the comp to genuinely one of the deepest, with quality and not just quantity.

To think there’s also Cuningham, Stocker, Kemp who can be developed there as well as Setterfield and O’Brien looking like there staking a claim also.

*forgot Carrol!!
 
GordonBlue said:
First game with all 5!

Cripps 31D 6M 11T 6CLR 5i50 1G1B
Walsh 32D 8M 1T 2CLR 6i50
Kennedy 30D 7M 2T 4CLR 6i50
Hewett 28D 5M 9T 9CLR 4i50
Cerra 23D 3M 2T 2CLR 6i50
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Also worth looking at the CBAs

Cripps 23 / 88% of CBAs / 85% TOG
Hewett 16 / 62% / 77%
Kennedy 15 / 58% / 66%
Cerra 12 / 46% / 72%
Walsh 10 / 38% / 85%
Fisher 2 / 8% / 75%

Definitely sharing the load between them, and surprisingly Fisher still got a couple. Looks a little like slightly lower TOG for Kennedy & Cerra, perhaps to fit everyone in? Cripps is really the only one who's CBA numbers aren't impacted by having an additional mid in the team.
 
Could we......... make it a FAB6?

Someone in another thread suggested that Dow could come in with Walsh having more time on the wing.

That would mean Setters or LOB would have to make way.

The only issue I see is that there isn't a secondary role on the field for Dow, unlike Cripps (Mid, Fwd), Kennedy (Mid, Fwd), Cerra (Mid, Wing), Walsh (Mid, Wing).

Decisions.......
 
NavySteel said:
Could we......... make it a FAB6?

Someone in another thread suggested that Dow could come in with Walsh having more time on the wing.

That would mean Setters or LOB would have to make way.

The only issue I see is that there isn't a secondary role on the field for Dow, unlike Cripps (Mid, Fwd), Kennedy (Mid, Fwd), Cerra (Mid, Wing), Walsh (Mid, Wing).

Decisions.......
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My concerns are similar. If Dow comes in he needs to play majority onball due to his lack of 2nd position but thats unrealstic with him being the 6th best mid. Think he needs to absolutely smash it in the vfl to get a look in or wait for an injury.

Also, while I have also contemplated Walsh going to wing Im not sure that would be wasting his talents in the current structure. Our wings seem to have clear roles and wouldnt allow walsh to hunt the ball as he naturally does.
 

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