Society/Culture Feminism part 1 - continued in part 2

[tesseract]

I find it interesting that on a forum dominated by men, there's not one thread on men's issues but a few that rant against women .

Feminists have said that feminism helps and is working for men, too, not just women. By this piece of feminist reasoning, there's no need for a separate men's issues thread. Btw, you're now conflating feminism with women.

I think Chief said he was to start a thread on the MRM, but he got scared away at the very thought of actual debate rather than his usual ideologically induced ad hominem-based comments.

 

[tesseract]

You're just scared of progress knowing that if it was a truly level playing field you wouldn't even come close to cutting it. Dress it up however you like, but you're a loser.

Cheers, Gough. You've just made my point wrt the supplanting of the modern approach for a feelings-based approach without even knowing you did. It's so completely ingrained into you and your fellow ideologues that such a response has become a reflex reaction/second nature. The brainwashing is complete. You've now risen (or demoted depending on one's view) to the rank of "useful idiot".

 

[Gough]

It's nice to feel useful.

 

[tesseract]

It's nice to feel useful...

...until you're "lined up against a wall..." once you've served your purpose.

 

[Chief]

Feminists have said that feminism helps and is working for men, too, not just women. By this piece of feminist reasoning, there's no need for a separate men's issues thread. Btw, you're now conflating feminism with women.

I think Chief said he was to start a thread on the MRM, but he got scared away at the very thought of actual debate rather than his usual ideologically induced ad hominem-based comments.

Why don't you start one? I dare you to make it about men's issues without blaming women for everything.

What you still don't get is that this is not about men vs women (just as racial issues are not about "white vs black") but about the powerful and the wealthy playing the poorer people (from dirt poor to comfortably well off) off against each other.

 

[tesseract]

Why don't you start one?

I have no need to. Feminism says it speaks for men's issues, too, and thus both men and women's issue can be discussed here. Btw, why didn't you?

I dare you to make it about men's issues without blaming women for everything.

"I dare you"? Are you 12? Are you going to double dare me next? Perhaps offer up a physical challenge if I don't? Btw, like your comrade, Cantwrite, you conflate feminism with women.

What you still don't get is that this is not about men vs women (just as racial issues are not about "white vs black") but about the powerful and the wealthy playing the poorer people (from dirt poor to comfortably well off) off against each other.

Given that you conflate feminism with women, you've implied it's about men vs women. Women vs men does play a part, though, due to the TPTB implementing a social engineering strategy of a divide and conquer nature on all levels, ie. women vs men, black vs white, irrelegious vs religious, etc., of which I've previously discussed.

 

[Chief]

I have no need to. Feminism says it speaks for men's issues, too

So you're abrogating all care and responsibility for male-specific issues to "feminism"?

Interesting given how you think feminism is the source of all male woes.

Sounds like doublethink!

 

[CM86]

I have no need to. Feminism says it speaks for men's issues, too, and thus both men and women's issue can be discussed here. Btw, why didn't you?



"I dare you"? Are you 12? Are you going to double dare me next? Perhaps offer up a physical challenge if I don't? Btw, like your comrade, Cantwrite, you conflate feminism with women.



Given that you conflate feminism with women, you've implied it's about men vs women. Women vs men does play a part, though, due to the TPTB implementing a social engineering strategy of a divide and conquer nature on all levels, ie. women vs men, black vs white, irrelegious vs religious, etc., of which I've previously discussed.

Haha, stealing my line.
I've pointed out you doing that so many times in your posts.

You don't give a shit about men's issues, you just hate women.

 

[tesseract]

So you're abrogating all care and responsibility for male-specific issues to "feminism"?

Not abrogating, just holding feminism to its claim.

Interesting given how you think feminism is the source of all male woes.

Where have I said "feminism is the source of all male woes"? Oh! You merely thought it. Feelz > realz.

 

[romeohwho]

Crikey, is old 'tampon tunnels' questioning someone's maturity? Go figure.

 

[Chief]

Not abrogating, just holding feminism to its claim.

The claim is that breaking down gender stereotypes helps everyone, not just women. This makes it easier for men to examine issues instead of ignoring health etc. But the idea on its own isn't going to put a ton of boots on the ground to fight prostate cancer. It helps by breaking the stereotypes set up by past societies (particularly during the industrial revolution), stereotypes that stopped men from talking about their feelings or from admitting they have health problems that need proper care. Stereotypes that stopped them from doing things that hindered them showing up to the factory and slaving away all day.

After that its up to people to talk and find solutions. "Feminism" isn't stopping anyone from finding solutions. There are weirdos who, much like yourself, seek to derail male (or female in your case) advances in solving problems. But they (like you) are outliers and loons. Pretending they are the core of a powerful movement changing our society is ridiculous. Then at the same time crowing that more and more women are rejecting feminism... ? It doesn't add up.

Where have I said "feminism is the source of all male woes"? Oh! You merely thought it. Feelz > realz.

That is your entire bloody spiel mate. Sad that you don't even know what you're saying, or that you think everyone else is so stupid that they can't see it.

 

[Maggie5]

"it may just be a feeling"? Or it may not. Now you're spouting words for the sake of it, for your comment isn't really saying anything.



This comment of yours is projection, for feminism is penis envy!



Your assumption is that I post what I do for your benefit. You've just displayed how self-centred you are. I'm already aware that you can't change the minds of dogmatic ideologues, aka feminists, for their brainwashing/indoctrination is thorough.

Just one sentence - perhaps it is you that suffers from 'penis envy'!

 

[tesseract]

The claim is that breaking down gender stereotypes helps everyone, not just women.

You're deflecting, for "breaking down gender stereotypes" isn't synonymous with 'helping men'. This is feminist sophistry attempting to rationalize by means of their ideological view that they're helping men.

This makes it easier for men to examine issues

Men in the MRM are examining issues, yet you condemn them.

This makes it easier for men to examine issues instead of ignoring health etc. But the idea on its own isn't going to put a ton of boots on the ground to fight prostate cancer.

When women get an advantage due to disproportionate health funding, where are the feminists to rise on mass to fight to change this inequality?

It helps by breaking the stereotypes set up by past societies (particularly during the industrial revolution), stereotypes that stopped men from talking about their feelings or from admitting they have health problems that need proper care. Stereotypes that stopped them from doing things that hindered them showing up to the factory and slaving away all day.

So, feminism want to change stereotypes of men and "toxic masculinity" rather than helping in a practical way by advocating for men when they face real discrimination and inequalities? This is feminism paying lip service to equality, and is ideologically driven by their contempt for males and masculinity that doesn't conform to their desires. Feminists are too busy sword fighting a fart.

After that its up to people to talk and find solutions.

Men behaving like men is a problem for feminists, given that they call masculinity "toxic". When it comes to helping men, feminism only talks, it doesn't put its money where its mouth is. Feminists don't lobby and rally for male issues, despite claiming to be fighting for them, too.

"Feminism" isn't stopping anyone from finding solutions.

Feminism attempts to stop men from finding solutions. La Dolce Vita displayed this by providing video evidence to this effect in post #6458 and #6459.

There are weirdos who, much like yourself, seek to derail male (or female in your case) advances in solving problems.

That's why I'm busy bashing the MRM who're trying to solve men's issues. Oh! That's right, it's actually you who's doing this.

But they (like you) are outliers and loons. Pretending they are the core of a powerful movement changing our society is ridiculous. Then at the same time crowing that more and more women are rejecting feminism... ? It doesn't add up.

Where have I said that I'm part of a movement, especially one trying to change society? Please cite. You're making shit up again, Chief.

That is your entire bloody spiel mate. Sad that you don't even know what you're saying, or that you think everyone else is so stupid that they can't see it.

You make shit up and attribute it to me. You could write a how-to manual on how to feminism... if only such tactics weren't already so widely practiced amongst feminists.

 

[La Dolce Vita]

Totes.

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wow look yet another feminist with no arguments to support their ignorant views on feminism..

I wonder why that is ? Oh wait I just answered my own question

#lookatthedictionarydefinition

 

[La Dolce Vita]

You're just scared of progress knowing that if it was a truly level playing field you wouldn't even come close to cutting it. Dress it up however you like, but you're a loser.

Quota's, reverse discrimination, funding, pre selection, laws...level playing field lol

feminism just another word for hypocrite

 

[Chief]

wow look yet another feminist with no arguments to support their ignorant views on feminism..

I wonder why that is ? Oh wait I just answered my own question

#lookatthedictionarydefinition

 

[Chief]

That's why I'm busy bashing the MRM who're trying to solve men's issues. Oh! That's right, it's actually you who's doing this.

You're not trying to solve men's issues. You're ranting about how women hold men back from their rightful role as "humble leader" of the household, and all sorts of other equally weird views. To you, any win for women is a loss for men.

 

[tesseract]

You're not trying to solve men's issues.

Relevance? So only those trying to solve men's issues are allowed to comment on the issues involved?

You're ranting about how women hold men back from their rightful role as "humble leader" of the household

Please cite quote in full.

and all sorts of other equally weird views.

"Weird views"? Based on what? Your feelings?

To you, any win for women is a loss for men.

Please cite where I've stated such.

This sounds like feminist projection, whereby they see rights as a zero sum game; for if men in the MRM fight for their rights as men, it must somehow be taking away from women's rights.

 

[CM86]

This sounds like feminist projection,

Sounds like? Based on what? Your feelings?

 

[Chief]

Relevance? So only those trying to solve men's issues are allowed to comment on the issues involved?

Cool, you admit you're not trying to solve any male issues, just attack women. Kudos for your honesty.

Please cite quote in full.

CBF finding it. It was one of your weird-ass religio-rants about men's duty in taking up the burden of humble leadership.

 

[La Dolce Vita]

 

[Chief]

Jeez some weird shit comes up in searches:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/so-god-isnt-really-all-powerful.873446/page-10#post-22449627

How's it going? God set things straight yet Tessie? What is this "near future" time frame you're talking about? 4 years and counting.

 

[tesseract]

Cool, you admit you're not trying to solve any male issues, just attack women. Kudos for your honesty.

Ah! The intellectual dishonesty of an ideologue. What a surprise. Where did I say that I didn't help men?

CBF finding it. It was one of your weird-ass religio-rants about men's duty in taking up the burden of humble leadership.

Put up or shut up!

 

[Chief]

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[Chief]

Put up or shut up!

Maybe it was one of the other loons.