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Personally, I don't get the "hate" thing for players, especially your own club. Loyalty means sticking behind club and players through thick and thin. This is not just blind idolatry - I simply don't ever believe the Bloods would dog a game, not try, just give up. On that basis, I'll back them 100% - knowing that, if they lose, it was due to lack of skills, bad luck, decisions etc. Lack of skills, poor kicking, stupid decisons under pressure etc are annoying - but going the personal "hate" stuff (to me) is a sort of mindless, self-defeating approach.

On the other hand, I can't stand umpires - little showpony heroes trying to grab the limelight from the players. This is not irrational. The Swans are one of the most disciplined defensive, tackling teams in the last 10 years - but have never been rewarded for this facet of the game. We have been systematically robbed of momentum, points in so many games over the years. The Freo game this year was as close to fraud as you will ever see. If I was CEO of the Swans, I would set up such a systematic, continuous, constant public outcry about certain umpires (e.g. Sydney do not want XXX umpires here ever again), that umpires would be influenced to treat us fairly lest they get exposed week in, week out. It's all about the Swans getting a fair go.
 
Systematically robbed? Is this from all the umpires or only a select few? Or is it a directive from the AFL to stop the Swans winning games?

You're blinded to the fact that almost every weekend a team gets some incredibly poor decisions from the umpires that are at crucial moments and it could be argued that those decisions cost teams games (not that I would make that argument).

And what about those games when the Swans get favourable decisions at key moments? Or if you're not willing to admit that, what about the games where Sydney's opponents get a horrible decision that pulls momentum from under them or "costs them the game"?

You started your rant by claiming you weren't being irrational, but that is exactly what you're being. You need to realise that the rules of the game are open to a wide spectrum of interpretations and also that umpires sometimes (and in my opinion, too often!) make poor decisions.
 
In saying that, I completely agree with your other point and as much as some players might frustrate me or make me feel they are undeserving of a spot in the 22, I will always support them and hope that they get themselves together and become a star!
 

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I can picture the scene at the HS office now.
OK, the Swans... Hmm... Shit aside from Goodes I don't know who any of these blokes are, and I didn't bother to watch the game.
Let's see... OK - match report says Johnson hurt his foot, and Bird was the sub. They'll do for "on the block" but I need one more.
Who's this Smith bloke? Don't know much about him, so he must be a fringe player. He'll do.
Now, "on the cusp", hmm... Mark McVeigh didn't play so he might be back, lets look at the injury list and see who is listed as "test". Everitt and Johnston - done.
Rightyo, deadline met, I'm off to the strip club.
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MC Bad Genius said:
Systematically robbed? Is this from all the umpires or only a select few? Or is it a directive from the AFL to stop the Swans winning games?

You're blinded to the fact that almost every weekend a team gets some incredibly poor decisions from the umpires that are at crucial moments and it could be argued that those decisions cost teams games (not that I would make that argument).

And what about those games when the Swans get favourable decisions at key moments? Or if you're not willing to admit that, what about the games where Sydney's opponents get a horrible decision that pulls momentum from under them or "costs them the game"?

You started your rant by claiming you weren't being irrational, but that is exactly what you're being. You need to realise that the rules of the game are open to a wide spectrum of interpretations and also that umpires sometimes (and in my opinion, too often!) make poor decisions.
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After years and years of watching the swans, I base my decisions on what I see - also the fact that - from 2003 to 2008, the Swans were the most penalised team every year except one (Hawks). Now - did Roos coach them to be undisciplined? - no, quite the opposite. so - there must be nother reason.

Without exception, all of my Victorian mates (yes, Bedders, I have some) continually crap on about the Swans being a protected species, unfairly subsidised by the AFL, getting an unfair go. aside from my natural suspicion of topline umpires (showponies etc), subliminally umpires would feel the same way about Sydney - and arguably this can translate into them having a slant against us.

Enough logic. I think they're frauds, they cheat us. I have an IQ of 198 - and no-one will convince me otherwise. Happy to discuss, however.
 
Leg End said:
After years and years of watching the swans, I base my decisions on what I see - also the fact that - from 2003 to 2008, the Swans were the most penalised team every year except one (Hawks). Now - did Roos coach them to be undisciplined? - no, quite the opposite. so - there must be nother reason.

Without exception, all of my Victorian mates (yes, Bedders, I have some) continually crap on about the Swans being a protected species, unfairly subsidised by the AFL, getting an unfair go. aside from my natural suspicion of topline umpires (showponies etc), subliminally umpires would feel the same way about Sydney - and arguably this can translate into them having a slant against us.

Enough logic. I think they're frauds, they cheat us. I have an IQ of 198 - and no-one will convince me otherwise. Happy to discuss, however.
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Gen Y???
 
CaptainChardonnay said:
Gen Y???
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Hardly - missed by 2 decades.
just detest umpires (along with politicians).

My pet hate is when the Swans have worked their arses off to get a 20 point lead - then some prima donna steps up with 4 soft frees in a row to hand momentum directly to the opposition. No other word than fraud.
 
Leg End said:
Hardly - missed by 2 decades.
just detest umpires (along with politicians).

My pet hate is when the Swans have worked their arses off to get a 20 point lead - then some prima donna steps up with 4 soft frees in a row to hand momentum directly to the opposition. No other word than fraud.
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Just ahead of your time I guess.

The whole it's not me, it's them, it's someone else's fault. They're all picking on me, etc, etc.
 

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CaptainChardonnay said:
Just ahead of your time I guess.

The whole it's not me, it's them, it's someone else's fault. They're all picking on me, etc, etc.
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Rubbish.

That's like saying "a dishonest politician?" or "a global media giant hacking into individuals' phone?" - never!

I'll change my mind when I see Sydney get 5 goals direct from free kicks and another 12 soft frees - and the opposition pinged 50 for remarkable interchange mistakes.
 

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