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RogerMellie

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My mouth waters when I think what a force a team featuring East Fremantle alumni currently running around in the AFL would be. Off the top of my head you'd have:

Simon Black
Paul Hasleby
Ben Cousins
Daniel Kerr
Luke McPharlin
Daniel Chick
Jonathon Hay
Matthew Carr
Josh Carr
Shane Woewodin
Tarkyn Lockyer

Would be absolutely dominant with probably the best midfield I've ever seen.
 
The list is interesting and it should be noted that the top 10 W.A. bred players are from the two Freo WAFL districts.

What we must remember is that this can be cyclical , in the 80's Swans and Claremont had dominant players, in the 90's Souths and Claremont were strong in production.

Ironically one of the lower WAFL teams at present is producing some of the best youngsters in the AFL - Perth.

Ironically the team that is dominating the WAFL (league) is producing very little in the way of youngsters for the AFL - East Perth.

Says something about the WAFL, Perth and East Perth.

Watch for the Swanies next year ..............
 
South Fremantle would have a good team as well.

Peter Matera
Phil Matera
Glen Jakovich
Peter Bell
Ashley Sampi
Roger Hayden
Ricky Mott
Travis Gaspar
Darren Gaspar
Martin McGrath (youngster at Richmond)
Ashley McGrath (youngster at Brisbane)
Corey McGrath
Dean Rioli
James Clement
 
And if we merge these teams together lets see what we come up with.

Backs: J.Hay D.Gaspar J.Carr

H. Backs: J.Clement G.Jakovich Pe.Matera

Midfield: D.Kerr S.Black S.Woewodin

H. Forwards: P.Haselby T.Gaspar D.Chick

Forwards: Ph.Matera L.McPharlin D.Rioli

Ruck: R.Mott B.Cousins P.Bell

Inter: C.McGrath M.Carr A.Sampi A.McGrath

Lockyer wasn't originally from WA thats why I didn't include him.
 

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Bloody awesome list!

Someone should show this to PA1870, been arguing with him about the Fremantle area being a better breeding ground for footballing talent than Port Adelaide.
 
Two Brownlow medallists across the centre line...

Good work Blackie...had a lazy $10 on him after heeding the advice of a few on the main board.
 
Originally posted by Docker_Brat
Bloody awesome list!

Someone should show this to PA1870, been arguing with him about the Fremantle area being a better breeding ground for footballing talent than Port Adelaide.
Be happy to compare one of those Freo teams with a Port Adelaide/Port Magpies team, but if you want to combine both, then we'd have to add Woodville-West Torrens & Central Districts to the Port side.

Of course, this is the Freo board, so I'll only post it if you guys have any actual interest in it.
 
Originally posted by Porthos
Be happy to compare one of those Freo teams with a Port Adelaide/Port Magpies team, but if you want to combine both, then we'd have to add Woodville-West Torrens & Central Districts to the Port side.

Of course, this is the Freo board, so I'll only post it if you guys have any actual interest in it.

You can try
But I doubt it compares to that list
 
Okey doke

F.......S. Burgoyne..........B. Beinke...........C. ****atoo-Collins
HF.....P. Burgoyne.......W. Tredrea.................A. Didak
C.......A. McLeod............C. Enright..................A. Fiora
HB.....B. Pickett..............D. Mead.................G. John****
B.......D. Foster.............D. Wakelin.............G. Wanganeen

Foll....C. Ackland.........N. Buckley........C. Bradley

Interchange: Troy Broadbridge, Jared Poulton, Scott Thompson, Clive Waterhouse, Michael Wilson

If including the geographical area that the team originally had access to before more teams were created to weaken it (ala East & South Freo), then add Matt Pavlich, Brett Burton, Scott Camporeale, Rhett Biglands, Peter Vardy, Stuart Dew, Ken McGregor, Glenn Freeborn & Scott Freeborn to that list.
 

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Originally posted by Porthos
Okey doke

F.......S. Burgoyne..........B. Beinke...........C. ****atoo-Collins
HF.....P. Burgoyne.......W. Tredrea.................A. Didak
C.......A. McLeod............C. Enright..................A. Fiora
HB.....B. Pickett..............D. Mead.................G. John****
B.......D. Foster.............D. Wakelin.............G. Wanganeen

Foll....C. Ackland.........N. Buckley........C. Bradley

Interchange: Troy Broadbridge, Jared Poulton, Scott Thompson, Clive Waterhouse, Michael Wilson

If including the geographical area that the team originally had access to before more teams were created to weaken it (ala East & South Freo), then add Matt Pavlich, Brett Burton, Scott Camporeale, Rhett Biglands, Peter Vardy, Stuart Dew, Ken McGregor, Glenn Freeborn & Scott Freeborn to that list.

You can add Aaron Shattock, Andrew Crowell, Shane Wakelin, Kent Kingsley, Luke McCabe, Stuart Cochrane to that list too
 
Originally posted by Zombie
Game, Set, Match.... Port Adelaide wins.

I cannot believe I'm hearing this... You, along with o.k.crows must be the most one-eyed supporters going around on bigfooty...
First (earlier in the year) you say that Schofield is a better player than Pavlich (I will dig it up for you if you deny it) and now you say this. No doubt you have probably said other ridiculous things which prove your bias towards Port Adelaide as well.

The only match-ups that would work in favour of the Port Adelaide side in terms of how good the careers of the players have been thus far would be Mead vs T.Gaspar, Buckley vs Cousins, Bradley vs Bell, Wanganeen vs Rioli, McLeod vs Kerr (at the moment)*, and D.Wakelin vs McPharlin (at the moment)*... For the other 12 match-ups, Freo would win in most of them and at least draw even in the rest.

P.A have 6 All-Australians (Tredrea, McLeod, Pickett, Wanganeen, Buckley, Bradley) and 1 brownlow medallist (Wanganeen), whilst Freo have 7 All-Australians (Hay, Gaspar, Jakovich, Pe. Matera, Black, Cousins, Bell) and 2 brownlow medallists (Black, Woewodin)

*(at the moment) means that the Freo player will possibly overtake the P.A player or draw level before the end of his career.*
 
Originally posted by Kenny_01
The Freo side that I luv West Coast posted looks far stronger.
Stronger than what? The side only including Port Adelaide Magpies players? If so, I'd agree.

If we added the players listed near the end of that post, that come from the same original recruiting zones before being split up to reduce Port's power, like your justification for the East & South Freo recombination, I'd reckon Port would pretty simply take the honors. I've picked the side naming players in position.

F.......P. Burgoyne..........K. Kingsley...............B. Burton
HF.....P. Vardy..............W. Tredrea...............A. McLeod
C.......S. Dew.................C. Enright..............S.Camporeale
HB.....B. Pickett.............M. Pavlich.................G. John****
B.......D. Foster.............D. Wakelin............G. Wanganeen

Foll....R. Biglands.........N. Buckley.................C. Bradley

Interchange: Alan Didak, Aaron Fiora, Shaun Burgoyne, Troy Broadbridge, Jared Poulton, Scott Thompson, Clive Waterhouse, Michael Wilson

If you'd like to go through it man on man, position by position, this combined Port side would easily give the Freo one a run for its money.
 
Simon Black vs A.McLeod, McLeod easily
Paul Hasleby vs G.Wanganeen, Wanganeen easily
Ben Cousins vs N.Buckley, Buckley easily
Daniel Kerr vs B.Pickett, Pickett easily
Luke McPharlin vs W.Tredrea, Tredrea easily
Daniel Chick vs C.Bradley, Bradley easily
Jonathon Hay vs D.Wakelin, Wakelin
Matthew Carr vs P.Burgoyne, Burgoyne easily
Josh Carr vs S.Burgoyne, Burgoyne slightly
Shane Woewodin vs C.C-Collins, Woewodin slightly
Tarkyn Lockyer vs D.Mead, Mead easily

You win 1 position, how the hell do you suppose that your team is better????

Not only that but Port have produced some of the best young players going around at the moment aswell in C.Enright, A.Didak, A.Fiora and G.John(ock.
 

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Originally posted by Zombie
Simon Black vs A.McLeod, McLeod easily
Paul Hasleby vs G.Wanganeen, Wanganeen easily
Ben Cousins vs N.Buckley, Buckley easily
Daniel Kerr vs B.Pickett, Pickett easily
Luke McPharlin vs W.Tredrea, Tredrea easily
Daniel Chick vs C.Bradley, Bradley easily
Jonathon Hay vs D.Wakelin, Wakelin
Matthew Carr vs P.Burgoyne, Burgoyne easily
Josh Carr vs S.Burgoyne, Burgoyne slightly
Shane Woewodin vs C.C-Collins, Woewodin slightly
Tarkyn Lockyer vs D.Mead, Mead easily

You win 1 position, how the hell do you suppose that your team is better????

Not only that but Port have produced some of the best young players going around at the moment aswell in C.Enright, A.Didak, A.Fiora and G.John(ock.

LOL, it's funny how you're torn between your bias towards the Port Adeliade football club and the Port Adelaide area... for the match-ups between players who are not from Port Power, you say that the player from the Port Adelaide area will 'win easily', whereas if the match-up involves a Port Power player and a player from the Port Adelaide area, you are unable to decide who will win.....
It's also funny how you leave out seven of the match-ups.

I would disagree with every one of those results you have given from those match-ups, other than Buckley vs Cousins, Tredrea vs McPharlin, Chick vs Bradley and Mead vs Lockyer.
 
The combined Freo side is very skillful. Some big name players there. the Port side seems to be about 3-4 years behind that one in the sense that in my opinion, in 3-4 years time the Port side will be just as good as the combined Freo side when the youngsters mature. Didak, S Burgoyne, Fiora, Enright all have very big futures in the game and will rival some of the Freo big names in 2-3 years time.
However, i think the combined Port/Eagles/Centrals side is only slightly behind or maybe even equal to the combined Freo side
 
Originally posted by |D_J^B_J|


LOL, it's funny how you're torn between your bias towards the Port Adeliade football club and the Port Adelaide area... for the match-ups between players who are not from Port Power, you say that the player from the Port Adelaide area will 'win easily', whereas if the match-up involves a Port Power player and a player from the Port Adelaide area, you are unable to decide who will win.....
It's also funny how you leave out seven of the match-ups.

I would disagree with every one of those results you have given from those match-ups, other than Buckley vs Cousins, Tredrea vs McPharlin, Chick vs Bradley and Mead vs Lockyer.

That's because your a tool, so you are saying that Black is better than McLeod? Haselby is better than Wanganeen? M.Carr is better than P.Burgoyne? Hahahha, you idiot.
 
The fact remains if you are comparing clubs you can't say O.K we will put east, south and west Freo together and then we have better players than Port Adelaide.

Port Adelaide vs East Freo or West Freo or South Freo, Port wins it by a country mile. There aren't many clubs in Australia that can compare with the talent that Port Adelaide produces.

If you want to put your teams together then you have to put the Adelaide sides together, and once again with the SANFL being the best comp outside of the AFL, you lose.

Put together states, you lose.
 
Originally posted by Zombie


That's because your a tool, so you are saying that Black is better than McLeod? Haselby is better than Wanganeen? M.Carr is better than P.Burgoyne? Hahahha, you idiot.

Current Browlow medalist (Black) vs. a guy who didn't even get all-australian this year (Mcleod) = you are a bias twat

MY OPINION = even contest. Black is waaaaaaay more consistent.

Pretty boy who isn't a bad player (Cousins) vs. Arrogant tool who isn't a bad player (Buckley) = you are a bias twat

MY OPINION = even contest. No way anyone has the upper hand easily.

Rising star winner who averaged 23 possies this year and will only get better (Haselby) vs. once brillant now very inconsistent back pocket (Wanganeen) = you get the idea

MY OPINION = This would be an awesome match up. if you actually watched any Freo games you would know Hase makes a handy Forward. Would be a good contest. Wanganeen would have the edge but not by much.

I could go on but got better things to do. These is the most bias posts I have ever read ( thats right, even over Sabre and Rohan_)
 

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