Game Day Freo vs Indigenous All-Stars - Optus Stadium Feb 15 - Live now.

[Joao]

I think the fact it was the IAS and not another AFL team has really ****ed with peoples' minds.

Can't remember such overreaction from fans and the media about a pre-season game, especially in mid-feb.

 

[BStaff17]

I didnt see the game so i wont be slitting my wrists or worried about.

Ill keep the surprise of seeing what we dish up for the regular season.

Though Longmuir's comments were interesting the AFL media have a American style like ruthlessness about them over every little comment with the likes of Cornes and King

I am surprised he even said it tbh. Why give those clowns any ammo.

 

[dont bowl there]

I think the fact it was the IAS and not another AFL team has really ****ed with peoples' minds.

Can't remember such overreaction from fans and the media about a pre-season game, especially in mid-feb.

Did anyone really care about the game? Most people are having a go at JLo over his weird vanilla remark. I couldn’t care less about the game but just a really weird thing to say/bring up.

 

[heavho]

King is a good analyst. I think king would be a better coach than most of the coaches in the system at the current time. He is critical but he can see potential also and knows a lot about the game. His statements are well deserved

 

[Docker82]

King is a good analyst. I think king would be a better coach than most of the coaches in the system at the current time. He is critical but he can see potential also and knows a lot about the game. His statements are well deserved

Dunno having Essendon on that list gives neither much credibility IMO. Seriously awful list beyond the first 5-6 players.

 

[ilikepotatoes]

King is a good analyst. I think king would be a better coach than most of the coaches in the system at the current time. He is critical but he can see potential also and knows a lot about the game. His statements are well deserved

Really? The guy is incredibly over critical or over supportive depending on his agenda and tries to sound smart by using statistics that he doesn't seem to understand half the time.

Case in point:

I think the bar is just so low that someone makes an effort and it makes them sound credible in the AFL media.

 

[DocT]

Ask him if he wants to put his money where his mouth is for the first derby.

Ouch - plz don't stir up any more possible memories of the Ghost of Derby 1 2024. The West Coast Harley's will be waking me up all breathless, sweaty and palpitating for weeks now.

 

[Stinky Lomax]

King is a good analyst. I think king would be a better coach than most of the coaches in the system at the current time. He is critical but he can see potential also and knows a lot about the game. His statements are well deserved

You can be a good analyst if that’s all you do with your time, shooting down other peoples comments & game style. Coaching is about creating not denigrating & building relationships within your whole organisation. He hasn’t shown that he can do that.

He coached for 5 years & achieved nothing, he’d be a useless coach.

 

[heavho]

 

[heavho]

Yes cornes is a pain and definitely doesn’t like freo but both have good points

 

[E Shed]

Finally got around to watching the replay and if you ignore the score it was actually quite a fun watch as a Freo supporter I thought.

There were plenty of little passages and moments that looked exciting a tidy. It's not meant to be the finished product and you can't judge pre-season based on the end-to-end performance.

The thing I liked the most was that the goals we did kick largely weren't due to mistakes by the IAS, rather we manufactured them with positive ball movement, overlap run etc. There's plenty there I reckon.

We were also within 9 points halfway through the third - the score only really blew out in junk time once the kids had run themselves ragged.

Agree with all this. Me & my season ticket friend went along & just enjoyed seeing the AIS mob play& the large indigenous crowd having a ball watching their mob playing run & gun footy.
It was a great atmosphere, a fun watch and Freo achieved their objective of getting 2 hours of hot, fatigue induced conditioning into some of the key players.

 

[chaosball32]

I think the fact it was the IAS and not another AFL team has really ****ed with peoples' minds.

Can't remember such overreaction from fans and the media about a pre-season game, especially in mid-feb.

I don’t think it’s from the game in isolation, rather the 5 years of underperformance under JL, thinking we are about to turn a corner, and then in the first hit-out of the year (yes it’s a pre-season game but still) and we go and dish up that.

Then the vanilla comment was even more worrying because 1. he’s basically admitting we played sh*t on purpose which even in a pre-season game is not something you want to hear from the coach and 2. that vanilla style of football is what we’ve come to know from Longmuir in the past 5 years so it’s hard for some to believe we are going to suddenly play completely different in a few weeks time.

I just don’t understand why he would make that comment even if it’s true. He’s under a lot of pressure this year and rightly so, another disappointing season and he’s sacked, so the very first thing he does is come out and admit they played badly on purpose? Puts even more pressure on himself and the team and makes some question if he has the right mentality. Nobody expected us to give the game 200% but we also didn’t expect such a lackadaisical effort.

I’m not melting yet, but if we see anything reminiscent come round 1 then melts are fully justified IMO

 

[Joao]

I didnt see the game so i wont be slitting my wrists or worried about.

Ill keep the surprise of seeing what we dish up for the regular season.

Though Longmuir's comments were interesting the AFL media have a American style like ruthlessness about them over every little comment with the likes of Cornes and King

I am surprised he even said it tbh. Why give those clowns any ammo.

I thought it was a non-event. Somebody asked and he answered. I have no idea how to qualify the meaningfulness of withholding tactics in pre-season games because it hasn't really come up before. I get the argument you should practice as much as you can, but I also get the argument if you can get an edge over an opponent, even for 1 game, then why wouldn't you do it? What if rolling the Cats in round 1 is the difference between 2nd or 3rd for example.


I suspect if Chris Scott had said it, Kingy would have froffed all over the genius of it (Kane could go either way). My guess is it was mundane and has been blown up because most of the media and fans have no idea.

Did anyone really care about the game? Most people are having a go at JLo over his weird vanilla remark. I couldn’t care less about the game but just a really weird thing to say/bring up.

Yeah I've seen multiple media reports not rating us come out after the game. Maybe they didn't rate us before but it wasn't clear from what I read.

I know JL isn't popular with the media, but they are absolutely feasting on that comment. It'll blow over as soon as there is something else to talk about.

King is a good analyst. I think king would be a better coach than most of the coaches in the system at the current time. He is critical but he can see potential also and knows a lot about the game. His statements are well deserved

What ilikepotatoes said basically. Other than Montagna, not sure any pundit puts in anywhere near enough work to sound knowledgeable. I get the impression that King does so I respect him for trying. I don't think you can just tick off everything he says as gospel though. I reckon he gets a fair bit wrong.

He's very clearly not a fan of JL or Fagan and had to eat it about the latter last year. It makes it hard to trust his assessment of either team.

Really? The guy is incredibly over critical or over supportive depending on his agenda and tries to sound smart by using statistics that he doesn't seem to understand half the time.

Case in point:

I think the bar is just so low that someone makes an effort and it makes them sound credible in the AFL media.

Stats are easy to misuse and I think he does a fair bit of that. Not a huge surprise, generally you need a proper mathematical background to make bulk stats useful.



Having said all of that, I do enjoy Kane and King together, but I often don't agree.

 

[Joao]

I don’t think it’s from the game in isolation, rather the 5 years of underperformance under JL, thinking we are about to turn a corner, and then in the first hit-out of the year (yes it’s a pre-season game but still) and we go and dish up that.

Then the vanilla comment was even more worrying because 1. he’s basically admitting we played sh*t on purpose which even in a pre-season game is not something you want to hear from the coach and 2. that vanilla style of football is what we’ve come to know from Longmuir in the past 5 years so it’s hard for some to believe we are going to suddenly play completely different in a few weeks time.

I just don’t understand why he would make that comment even if it’s true. He’s under a lot of pressure this year and rightly so, another disappointing season and he’s sacked, so the very first thing he does is come out and admit they played badly on purpose? Puts even more pressure on himself and the team and makes some question if he has the right mentality. Nobody expected us to give the game 200% but we also didn’t expect such a lackadaisical effort.

I’m not melting yet, but if we see anything reminiscent come round 1 then melts are fully justified IMO

See my other post.

 

[ozzie69]

We were down by I think 9 points in the third quarter, and then a few of our young players were given a bit of a run to finish the game and we were overrun. What's the big deal here? Up until that point, we had matched it with a very special team.

 

[Joao]

We were down by I think 9 points in the third quarter, and then a few of our young players were given a bit of a run to finish the game and we were overrun. What's the big deal here? Up until that point, we had matched it with a very special team.

There is no deal at all IMO.

Bar Switta, we got through unscathed. That should suffice but apparently not.

 

[mattis117]

I don’t think it’s from the game in isolation, rather the 5 years of underperformance under JL, thinking we are about to turn a corner, and then in the first hit-out of the year (yes it’s a pre-season game but still) and we go and dish up that.

Then the vanilla comment was even more worrying because 1. he’s basically admitting we played sh*t on purpose which even in a pre-season game is not something you want to hear from the coach and 2. that vanilla style of football is what we’ve come to know from Longmuir in the past 5 years so it’s hard for some to believe we are going to suddenly play completely different in a few weeks time.

I just don’t understand why he would make that comment even if it’s true. He’s under a lot of pressure this year and rightly so, another disappointing season and he’s sacked, so the very first thing he does is come out and admit they played badly on purpose? Puts even more pressure on himself and the team and makes some question if he has the right mentality. Nobody expected us to give the game 200% but we also didn’t expect such a lackadaisical effort.

I’m not melting yet, but if we see anything reminiscent come round 1 then melts are fully justified IMO

It wasn't even that bad, there were a couple of exceptional plays that made me sit up.

35 degrees, three less rotations, not using our rotations to purposefully stress our starting line up.

This game was about loading, not preparing strategically for Geelong, yet. Round one was still four weeks from that game. The old cliches about football being a different sport each four weeks or each week etc.

Our Melbourne game is the last pre season game and will reveal much more than this show game did.

 

[Taylor]

He'd make a lot more money working for a club. If he could.

 

[chaosball32]

It wasn't even that bad, there were a couple of exceptional plays that made me sit up.

35 degrees, three less rotations, not using our rotations to purposefully stress our starting line up.

This game was about loading, not preparing strategically for Geelong, yet. Round one was still four weeks from that game. The old cliches about football being a different sport each four weeks or each week etc.

Our Melbourne game is the last pre season game and will reveal much more than this show game did.

I wasn’t expecting us to show our entire hand but I was just expecting a bit more of something. It was an exhibition game after all. We really only get the two practice games before the real thing and I don’t think intra-clubs are comparable.

Saturday just seemed way too reminiscent of the Longmuir ball we’ve come to know, glacial pace ball movement and then boom a really exciting and damaging passage of play and you’re thinking where did that come from, and then it’s back to glacial ball movement. Defensive pressure was non-existent, from memory we had the 3rd or 4th worst pressure rating last year, which would not have held up had we made finals. Skill level was also very substandard but I’ll chalk that down to pre-season rustiness.

That style of football has proven ineffective and is just plain boring to watch so I really am hoping it’s a thing of the past because we’ve shown we are capable of playing some really good football but we haven’t done it often enough.

The Melbourne game will be a very interesting watch to see how we approach it.

 

[anchor man]

King is a self serving c****n.
A real boof head. Why people get upsrt ot take notice of him bemuses me.
He has been and always be Fremantle hater.
Goes way back to 1994 when he had holiday at the new clubs expense.

 

[ignoramus]

Sounds like "vanilla gameplan" is the new "ugly football".

 

[mike91]

Seriously which player when they get the ball in the backline do you go 'ok here we go something good is going to happen'

Use to be like that with young but I can't think of anyone it applies to now.

I don't get particularly excited when Ryan or Clark get the ball. I don't worry that they will heck ot

I do believe we should experiment with Simpson in that role.

I see where you're coming from and agree with Peter Bell when he departed, we need one more attacking defender that sets up play

 

[mike91]

On another note, respectfully, I will never understand why people on here, or any footy fan that isn't a nuffie actually gives a damn what Cornes and King think. If they had even the slightest clue, they'd be getting job offers from clubs.

Just glorified keyboard warriors and unfortunately Cornes knows how to play with people's minds beautifully and profit out of it.

 

[masai tu]

King is a self serving c****n.
A real boof head. Why people get upsrt ot take notice of him bemuses me.
He has been and always be Fremantle hater.
Goes way back to 1994 when he had holiday at the new clubs expense.

Yes, maybe the whippersnippers around here are unaware or naive about the shenanigans that went on with the formation of Freo in 2024. Alot of players were enticed over as Freo prospects, but they thought it was a lark. Two of them publicly stated that they had no intention of leaving their present club, just wanted to milk the cow to the max.

Added into the McLeod situation, there is a context to some of Freo's early decisions.

As for King, what the flip is in his footy CV ?. Ignore button pressed.

 

[anchor man]

Yes, maybe the whippersnippers around here are unaware or naive about the shenanigans that went on with the formation of Freo in 2024. Alot of players were enticed over as Freo prospects, but they thought it was a lark. Two of them publicly stated that they had no intention of leaving their present club, just wanted to milk the cow to the max.

Added into the McLeod situation, there is a context to some of Freo's early decisions.

As for King, what the flip is in his footy CV ?. Ignore button pressed.

King and Lynch both laughed about it.
Ming is ap***k.
And the McCleod thing has been done tk death. He stated in his book that he was "NEVER" coming to Fremantle, and came over for the holiday.