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Chappel is credited with starting the idea of batsmen on the world stage not "walking". he made it team policy and to the best of my knowlegde it has remained so ever since. Every other country followed suit and I have some sympathy with the attitude that it is not the players decision. Think Gilly just thought he was a gonner. But if people want to make out it was good old australian sportmanship then fair enough (seems a bit odd tho when to all accounts we started the not walking thing)
 
This has got me a bit confused. It looked to me that Gilchrist stood there for a few seconds before walking, and I'm sure he turned to look at the umpire before he walked, too. He must have known that any contact was slight and that he had a chance of being given not out. Regardless of what was said after the game, it looked to me like a piece of good sportsmanship.

If so, then good on him. I can't believe that anyone could seriously criticise him for acting within the spirit of the game.

There's a serious flaw with rabbiting on about the bad sportsmanship of Sri Lanka and Pakistan, while actively promoting it anongst your own country's sportsmen.
 
Gilly is known to be a good sport. Good on him for walking off.
*gives greaso to all who are bad sports*
Go Aussies
 
A batsmen should not be required to walk.

If he does though - he should be applauded for it regardless of the circumstances.


I never walk personally as I have made 93 carrer runs in 54 innings - I need all the help i can get!!!!
 

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If you retire, you can't come back in, no matter what. You can return to the crease (at the fall of a wicket) only if you retire hurt.
 
Originally posted by Dean3
If you retire, you can't come back in, no matter what. You can return to the crease (at the fall of a wicket) only if you retire hurt.
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I believe that is incorrect. If your retire unhurt you can only enter after all wickets have fallen. If your retire hurt, you can re enter at the fall of any wicket.

As for Gilchrist walking when given not out, I'd have been p***ed off if I was given out. The replays weren't very conclusive and the Sri Lankan's didn't make a big fuss over the appeal.

I can recall two instances in Junior Cricket where I got the faintest nick yet no one appealled. I held my ground and grinned a the bowler. Didn't help, I make Jars look like Bradman.:D
 
Gilchrist might have a few decisions on credit now. Say in the final he gets a very fine snick through to the keeper and stands his ground. Umpire doesn't know which way to go but being the serial walkist Gilchrist is he gets the benefit of the doubt. That shouldn't happen but whos to say it wouldn't? Might be enough to sway the decision one way or the other.
 
Originally posted by Port01
He still walked, even if he didn't realise he had been given not out.

Batsman do not walk on the assumption they will be given out.

I don't know why there are many people trying as hard as they can to make it not look like a sporting gesture (not specifically referring to you, but some media reports I have read).
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Actually the papers this morning said that Gilly was aware he had been given not out. Regardless me thinks he shouldn't have walked, just stand your ground and let the umps make the decision like Vaughn and Hussain did. Hopefully the public doesn't expect him to walk everytime now.
 
Originally posted by DEVO
I believe that is incorrect. If your retire unhurt you can only enter after all wickets have fallen. If your retire hurt, you can re enter at the fall of any wicket.


Well, no. Technically a batsman retiring unhurt can only resume his innings with the consent of the opposing captain. But what captain at international level is going to allow that? There's nothing in the rules that says this has to be at the fall of the penultimate wicket.
It's quite common for 'retired' batsmen to resume an innings at park/junior level, but it's not permitted in ODI or 1st class/Test level, unless in the above (very unlikely) circumstances.
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Originally posted by Dean3
Originally posted by DEVO
I believe that is incorrect. If your retire unhurt you can only enter after all wickets have fallen. If your retire hurt, you can re enter at the fall of any wicket.


Well, no. Technically a batsman retiring unhurt can only resume his innings with the consent of the opposing captain. But what captain at international level is going to allow that? There's nothing in the rules that says this has to be at the fall of the penultimate wicket.
It's quite common for 'retired' batsmen to resume an innings at park/junior level, but it's not permitted in ODI or 1st class/Test level, unless in the above (very unlikely) circumstances.
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He didn't retire, he gave himself out. Look in the scorebook.

Absolutely disgraceful performance by Gilchrist. Should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute. Surprising that the match referee didn't report him. Lucky not to be outed for the Final.

Doesn't he realise that this is a professional sport? If everyone acted like he did, there would be no reason for slow-mo replays. Think how many technical people at Channel 9 would be out of work. Totally irresponsible. He just didn't think it through. Is it any wonder he lost the Test vice-captaincy?
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Originally posted by Dean3
Originally posted by DEVO
I believe that is incorrect. If your retire unhurt you can only enter after all wickets have fallen. If your retire hurt, you can re enter at the fall of any wicket.


Well, no. Technically a batsman retiring unhurt can only resume his innings with the consent of the opposing captain. But what captain at international level is going to allow that? There's nothing in the rules that says this has to be at the fall of the penultimate wicket.
It's quite common for 'retired' batsmen to resume an innings at park/junior level, but it's not permitted in ODI or 1st class/Test level, unless in the above (very unlikely) circumstances.
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Yeah, you're right. If a player retires when he is not hurt, he can't return.
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My first thoughts on the matter were how odd it was that Gilly was getting so much publicity for walking ... I mean, Brian Lara's being doing it for years - EVERY time. So much so, nobody even really notices him doing it nowadays.

But then I put it into the context of the Australian cricket culture, and then I realized just how astounding, and how admirable, Adam's gesture was.

It's all relative, I guess.
 
Originally posted by Wicked Lester
Just a thought - if the umpire gives you not out and you walk, have you retired?
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There was an Australian cricketer in the 1960s, 1970s named Graeme Watson. He was playing for Western Australia in the early 70s when he thought he nicked a ball and walked from the ground.
The unpire had given him not out, so he approached the scorers and the official dismissal was "retired".
In Gilchrist's situation, I think the umpire gave him out after he walked, so he would be out "caught".
 
Originally posted by Becker
There was an Australian cricketer in the 1960s, 1970s named Graeme Watson. He was playing for Western Australia in the early 70s when he thought he nicked a ball and walked from the ground.
The unpire had given him not out, so he approached the scorers and the official dismissal was "retired".
In Gilchrist's situation, I think the umpire gave him out after he walked, so he would be out "caught".
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It doesn't matter what the decision was, he wouldn't be allowed on back on the ground.
 
Gilchrist's innings - his call. And it certainly wasn't a case of him not knowing what the umpire thought. He turned to Shepherd who shrugged that he didn't know. I'm not going to say what I would have done or think he should have done as I don't play in games with high stakes. I always walk when I know I'm out but I only play games which are little more than social or very low suburban league level. But I say good on him, and the fact that it was at an early stage in the innings should have shut up the nay-sayers who reckon he is just trying to get a reputation for not walking so he can trade on it later. But I see that hasn't stopped David Hookes.
 

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