Your summation is pretty good but I can tell you there is a lot more to it. Echuca have submitted a “paper” to the league to ask them for responses on a number of issues. To date they have not received a reply. It was submitted long ago (months) and this is part the issue. They are wanting to know some future directions and wants some answers on certain issues and the league is asleep at the wheel. This is not helpful when the Bendigo league is belting down there door. Some of the issues also related to juniors, number of teams and points allocation…. Echuca is very frustrated at the lack of or near no communication.
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Quite understandable. It should have a number of clubs worried about the future of the league and whether they need to find a new home.
Oh, for the days when the competition was in the capable hands of people of the calibre of Keith Wellman. Nowadays it is someone from the city with little feel for the importance of country sport to the community, staying for a year or two then trying to springboard their way into a next-level-up position back in the big smoke.
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I will give you the Mills point.
You have no idea of football in the modern era if you seriously believe the Valentine suspension was inappropriate.
The other points actually harm at least 5 other clubs exactly the same way.
It’s really hard in all facets of life to take away what you don’t like, but do the best for the majority.
The GVFNL has had some serious poor leadership on the last couple of years.
Echuca going to BFL smells like
toys out of the cot!
If I can’t have it my way I’ll be off.
There is no way that Ash Byrne would have his finger prints on that.
He is far more likely to fix a problem than leave it.
He should roll the board, grab the people he wants on a ticket, problem would be solved in a flash.
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Some of these statements are laughable
“valentine suspension”He’s one of the dirtiest blokes in the Gv it’s about time they sanctioned him, for the past 4/5 finals series he’s done something dirty and gotten away with it.
Echuca won’t leave the gv.
Gvfl has always looked after echuca just because they weren’t good enough this year ya blowing up.
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What Valentine has or hadn’t done in the past shouldn’t have had any bearing of his guilt in that incident .Some of these statements are laughable
He’s one of the dirtiest blokes in the Gv it’s about time they sanctioned him, for the past 4/5 finals series he’s done something dirty and gotten away with it.
Echuca won’t leave the gv.
Gvfl has always looked after echuca just because they weren’t good enough this year ya blowing up.
Incidents should be judged in isolation but I wouldn’t be surprised if your suggestion was the case .
My views on Echuca considering a move to Bendigo have existed well before this season commenced , which I’ve expressed on here and are not success based .
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‘ are you able to expand on this for those of us not intimately connected with either comp? ‘
‘ particularly as they have occurred without any explanation or even acknowledgement of willingness to address in future .‘
‘ Keep in mind I have always been advised going to Bendigo was primarily as the club had more connection to Bendigo.‘
‘ suspect there are many other situations which those within the club would be aware of . ‘
The fact you acknowledge making a decision to consider the Bendigo league solely on these points would be ‘ throwing the toys out the cot ‘ and There is no way that Ash Byrne would have his finger prints on that.‘. Probably gives clear enough indication that there is more to the decision and it hasn’t been the first step taken ?
As for the ‘ modern era ‘ comment feel free to provide me the rule change . It’s an interpretation by the professional AFL competition which others have felt the need to keep up with .
if you want country footy to be run like the professional AFL competition you get what is current on the table .
No crowds , dwindling interest , less club revenue , more costs including player payments , increased administration .
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Roar is right from my understanding, echuca go out of their way to make sure kids get a game of footy, helping out many surrounding clubs with juniors and the biggest issue is how the league is operating, you only have to read Ash byrnes article in the age to see, the gvs lack of understanding for community clubs and how they still wish to stay with heavy afl operations, whilst other major leagues are embracing getting away from hubs to self govern with a ceo and board.
Ive gotta admit, im a dinasour with suspensions too like roar, the valentine action is something ive seen 1000 times at least at this level of play and thought it was excessive, as physicality is part of Aussie rules, much like the Eaglehawk coach getting 10 weeks, but the game is heading towards no tackling and watered down version of 90s 2000s footy and ive gotta accept that now watching footy
Not sure they weren't good enough...plenty of injuries hurt.Some of these statements are laughable
He’s one of the dirtiest blokes in the Gv it’s about time they sanctioned him, for the past 4/5 finals series he’s done something dirty and gotten away with it.
Echuca won’t leave the gv.
Gvfl has always looked after echuca just because they weren’t good enough this year ya blowing up.
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If Echuca leave, wouldn’t the GV just swoop on Moama?
I would think they would get some Echuca people with a GV preference to cross the river.
Moama would then get all the recruiting benefits that Echuca get of recruiting out of Bendigo.
I would think they would get some Echuca people with a GV preference to cross the river.
Moama would then get all the recruiting benefits that Echuca get of recruiting out of Bendigo.
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Sounds like moama are just as far along with bendigo. That could easily change too
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I’ve heard Moama prefer GV.
Who knows?
There has always been a lot of people transition between Moama and Echuca and the clubs are relatively close .
That along with issues between Murray and AFLGM played a significant part in Moama not taking the GVL option further , previously .
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Strange times Roar.
Sounds like Echuca are about $1.30 to leave at this point.
Unless they get some answers to their questions. Which they are entitled to.
I’d take those odds of you can get Silver .
It doesn’t bode well when a organisation opts to cut off communication and there is a number of incidents where the brick wall has been given to multiple people in recent times . Until that changes I only see things going downhill .
There is another GVL club in the mix who hasn’t been mentioned and my mail is there is interest from sections within Kyabram , some of which who have an axe to grind .
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Geographically the other club must be Tatura?
That was what I was told today from a Bendigo contact .
Tat tipping toe into Bendigo ( as so to speak ) or Bendigo sniffing around Tat , I’m unsure ?
A GV without Tat,Ky; Echuca, Rochy would leave it as a shadow of its former self! I would also think Seymour would be a gettable target. They were once a fierce rival of Broadford (Although that is another circus IMO), geographically close enough and may want to join the others in disembarking from what could be a sinking ship.
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Not doubting that is the case , but I think it remains a big watch as I suspect interest to explore will grow .
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I agree, theres lots of moving parts here. First port of call is the gv to come out and show clubs how they will operate now, maybe listen to the clubs so theres no unrest. Offer the o&m general manager 15% more to come over.
With the GVL chair being the ex AFLGm chair and the current AFLGM chair being a past GVL board member , there is a perception the GVL direction will be in accordance with AFLGM’s recent statement.
That being ‘ no change ‘ which is at strong odds to some clubs wishes .
Suggestion put to clubs that admin fees will double , if self administered , has been seen as a scare tactic that has further angered .
If the western clubs did end up heading to the Bendigo league, would it be far-fetched to say that most or all of the eastern GVL clubs could join forces with the Murray league to create a two-division Goulburn-Murray league?
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I did think last night do we just have 4 conferences in country Victoria with 4 divisions. So youd hwve north-West, north-east, south-west and south-east, scrap under 18s tac cup and have promotion relegation.
Have conference finals and then a major state winner. That would require afl vic intravention or ability to sell the idea to clubs and leagues. There is plenty of dis-satisfaction with clubs, leagues and hubs, would this idea simplify it?
Maybe we'd get better and simpler points setup and salary setup.
Div1 150k
Div 2 125k
Div 3 110k
Div 4 100k
For example
Premiers start at 36 points and go up 1 point each ladder position down and have this for all 4 divisions.
Have conference finals and then a major state winner. That would require afl vic intravention or ability to sell the idea to clubs and leagues. There is plenty of dis-satisfaction with clubs, leagues and hubs, would this idea simplify it?
Maybe we'd get better and simpler points setup and salary setup.
Div1 150k
Div 2 125k
Div 3 110k
Div 4 100k
For example
Premiers start at 36 points and go up 1 point each ladder position down and have this for all 4 divisions.
The travel would be horrendous and netball would be a major sticking point once again.
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