Roast Harry Taylor

[Last Line Hero]

Not sure if this has been addressed in any other threads but H has been dogging it for 5-6 weeks now. Brilliant first 12-13 weeks to the year, but since then he has really tailed off. It all started, in particular, the night against the Swans in Sydney. Goodes had him cold again and again, he was replaced that evening by Lonergan and in all the games proceeding he has looked really shy of confidence.

Same happened again against Collingwood. He isn't attacking his marks anymore, and seems to be getting caught out running back towards goals again, and again. Appears as if he doesn't want to defend from behind. Last night he had strong chances to influence contests as the 3rd man up and prevent Fremantle goals, but just wan't strong enough in the contest.

Is anyone else concerned, considering he will have Cloke and Reiwoldt the coming two weeks or is it just me?

 

[SJ]

Also his kicking style has gone to the dogs. He's always been one to 'chip' it a touch, but he is leaning back far too much now on his drop punts, trying to flop them like an 8 iron. No good.

 

[Last Line Hero]

Also his kicking style has gone to the dogs. He's always been one to 'chip' it a touch, but he is leaning back far too much now on his drop punts, trying to flop them like an 8 iron. No good.

His kicking has always been a touch suspect for mine. He had improved this year substantially, but you are right that is something else that has escaped him the past 5-6 weeks.

I have no doubt it was a deliberate ploy last night for him to not play on Pavlich. Thompson brought Taylor up after the game as one of the players under some pressure to perform (as well as Ottens ), and I have no doubt that after his display last week against Riewoldt and the weeks preceding that, and then knowing we'd play Freo and Pavlich Lonergan was rushed in so Taylor could be released and get some confidence back.

Bomber has done that before with Scarlett, when he's been struggling he's released him from key defence, and it was obvious he was doing it with Taylor last night. Harry still didn't turn the corner in my book.

 

[winty]

I wonder if he's still semi-conscious of the shoulder he injured against the Pies in Round 19. Seems like he doesn't run back into packs as hard as he did prior to that injury.

 

[re cat]

Not sure if this has been addressed in any other threads but H has been dogging it for 5-6 weeks now. Brilliant first 12-13 weeks to the year, but since then he has really tailed off. It all started, in particular, the night against the Swans in Sydney. Goodes had him cold again and again, he was replaced that evening by Lonergan and in all the games proceeding he has looked really shy of confidence.

Same happened again against Collingwood. He isn't attacking his marks anymore, and seems to be getting caught out running back towards goals again, and again. Appears as if he doesn't want to defend from behind. Last night he had strong chances to influence contests as the 3rd man up and prevent Fremantle goals, but just wan't strong enough in the contest.

Is anyone else concerned, considering he will have Cloke and Reiwoldt the coming two weeks or is it just me?

Dogging it is a bit rich. He has been injured. You should try chasing Riewoldt around.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

yeah he's seriously out of sorts. I know its team rule to switch into the centre but Harry doesnt disguise it well at all, and his execution is poor too. Perhaps should just stick to marking and handballing next week

 

[Last Line Hero]

Dogging it is a bit rich. He has been injured. You should try chasing Riewoldt around.

Not at all.

v. Brisbane- Brown 4 goals.
v. Sydney- Had to be moved off Goodes.
v. Collingwood- Had to be moved off Cloke.
v. Bulldogs- DNP
v. Carlton- Beaten by Waite.
v. St. Kilda- Nearly worst on.
v. Fremantle- Removed from usual role on Pav, still very quiet.

There is no denying that he has been struggling badly since the Sydney game, and that his confidence is way down. His defensive work and disposal have become very suspect since Rnd. 18, and I think the injury talk is a cop out. It was obvious listening to Thompson last night that Harry was one player under pressure to lift his performance, if he was carrying an injury the coach wouldn't talk like that, nor would the coaching staff have played him to finish the season given their cautious tendencies with other players this year.

 

[Selective Retention]

Dogging it and getting beaten are two different things.

 

[Last Line Hero]

Dogging it and getting beaten are two different things.

Are they?

I just assumed that if you are playing poorly and getting consistently beaten that pretty much constitutes dogging it.

 

[catempire]

Are they?

I just assumed that if you are playing poorly and getting consistently beaten that pretty much constitutes dogging it.

Dogging it means not putting in.

He could be getting beaten because he's injured or out of form.

 

[Shmoses]

I wonder if he's still semi-conscious of the shoulder he injured against the Pies in Round 19. Seems like he doesn't run back into packs as hard as he did prior to that injury.

Spot on, clearly carrying an AC joint injurt

 

[kanyewest]

Yeah, as I stated in another thread, definitely appears to be low on confidence. Needs to go back to basics and just play some good 1-1 defending. He's getting caught out of position way too often.

Not sure if he'll rebound next week because he hasn't played all that well against the Pies in the past. Still, he's been great for us over the journey so can't give him too much of a hard time.

 

[SmothOperRaider]

Also his kicking style has gone to the dogs. He's always been one to 'chip' it a touch, but he is leaning back far too much now on his drop punts, trying to flop them like an 8 iron. No good.

+ 1

I reckon he has a wide foot.

 

[Catman]

Spot on, clearly carrying an AC joint injurt

Add the corked hip he received from Waite in the Carlton game. And the rolled ankle from last week.

 

[Generalissimo]

Thought he was better last night than he has ben for weeks.

 

[Last Line Hero]

Add the corked hip he received from Waite in the Carlton game. And the rolled ankle from last week.

He shouldn't be playing then.