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Yesterday we saw something not too unfamiliar - Bryce Gibbs running away from the ball, it's what he does best. However the Blues had Heath Shaw go to him to run him away from the ball, yes it doesn't say much for a no 1 draft pick to be used in such a demeaning way, however it is becoming a nasty habit of opposition sides to admit defeat immediately with Heath Shaw and use a forward to take him away.

Started to believe this is really starting to hurt us down back. How can we counteract this? Not only is it killing a lot of our drive and rebound down back, it's now killing my SC... :(

Needs to be addressed before next weekend!!
 
The answer is simple, move Heater onto the ball.

Against Geelong, he played on ball/wing to great effect and it showed MM's tactical genius with some of his unpredictability in match-ups.

Shaw is hard, a line-breaker and polished by foot so a transition onto the ball is the perfect counter-attack possible.

I would even contemplate making him an attacking midfielder/wingman. Against Melbourne he showed he loves to get forward and kick a few goals, so playing him as an attacking mid will mean his opponent will not be a 'negating forward' rather a tagger or defender against Shaw.

Basically give Heater the licence to roam and go wherever he wants, that way his opponent cannot drag him away from the play or curb his influence in setting the play up.
 
sirlothie said:
Yesterday we saw something not too unfamiliar - Bryce Gibbs running away from the ball, it's what he does best. However the Blues had Heath Shaw go to him to run him away from the ball, yes it doesn't say much for a no 1 draft pick to be used in such a demeaning way, however it is becoming a nasty habit of opposition sides to admit defeat immediately with Heath Shaw and use a forward to take him away.

Started to believe this is really starting to hurt us down back. How can we counteract this? Not only is it killing a lot of our drive and rebound down back, it's now killing my SC... :(

Needs to be addressed before next weekend!!
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so you managed to turn around the fact that gibbs held a good, more established player to next to nothing and say it was just because gibbs is soft :confused::confused::confused:
 
The_JUDDERNAUT said:
so you managed to turn around the fact that gibbs held a good, more established player to next to nothing and say it was just because gibbs is soft :confused::confused::confused:
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He didn't hold him because he was in an attacking position running AWAY from the ball. My Mum could do that. :D

Not as well as Gibbs though... :o
 

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What i would do this week, although I'm sure MM wont do this, is play Heath as a defensive half forward on Gilbee. This will give him a new focus and he could prove very dangerous. Just a thought.
 
dalethomas13 said:
The answer is simple, move Heater onto the ball.

Against Geelong, he played on ball/wing to great effect and it showed MM's tactical genius with some of his unpredictability in match-ups.

Shaw is hard, a line-breaker and polished by foot so a transition onto the ball is the perfect counter-attack possible.

I would even contemplate making him an attacking midfielder/wingman. Against Melbourne he showed he loves to get forward and kick a few goals, so playing him as an attacking mid will mean his opponent will not be a 'negating forward' rather a tagger or defender against Shaw.

Basically give Heater the licence to roam and go wherever he wants, that way his opponent cannot drag him away from the play or curb his influence in setting the play up.
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I like this idea.

However if MM is unwilling to take him out of defence I have another idea... try Dale Thomas on the other half back flank and have them work together, as long as one is near the hot spot at all times we should regain that drive as DT possesses it in spades as well and with his speed and spring I can see him being able to hold a typical HFF down.

Then if one gets dragged out at least someone else is there.

Heath Shaw is too good to let him be taken away from the play however, we desperately need to counteract this and FAST, a 30 possession game from Heath yesterday could have meant the 4 points.
 
Kirby said:
What i would do this week, although I'm sure MM wont do this, is play Heath as a defensive half forward on Gilbee. This will give him a new focus and he could prove very dangerous. Just a thought.
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Interesting...

It's a mind bender to me how you would approach this role and still attack, so I imagine it would be to him too, we don't want him doing a Gibbs on Gilbee, no point but if he could try to 'contain' Gilbee and win his own ball could be damaging on the scoreboard...

Complete role reversal though... I don't think Heath would feel at home on the HFF. And who takes Heath's role down back?

I'm leaning toward Heath not being a part of the back 6 as such, have him play as a wingman floating backwards.
 
Kirby said:
What i would do this week, although I'm sure MM wont do this, is play Heath as a defensive half forward on Gilbee. This will give him a new focus and he could prove very dangerous. Just a thought.
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I agree 100% although Heath's decision making when going in 50 is questionable, the fact is his work at ground level is not polished enough to play on the ball but if he is able to play a link half foward, negating half foward role on Gilbee it will free him up. Even if he starts then and at his descretion pushes back to the back line to help out.

While it would be a little left field I'd almost even give him a licence to roam where he sees fit, he reads the game really well and just let him run and link from Half back to half foward all day rather.
 
Or just mess with them and play 3 HBF's... the other two can man up while Heath has a free roam and have an onballer stretching out a bit wide to cover for having no wing...

Heath can push through there and make it up as well.

I don't care but we need to do something to get Heath back into the game. :(
 
Worth a try but I'm not sold yet.

But can't be worse than what Gibbs did to him, may as well have been a 5 man bench each. :o

One of the lamest tactics I have ever seen.

Compliment to Heath I guess... :o
 
I'd say it was a Carlton tactic to take Heath out of the game, wouldn't you?

Therefore we can draw that Gibbs not only did his job, but did it very well, finishing with 13 touches to Shaw's 6.
 
Murphinator said:
I'd say it was a Carlton tactic to take Heath out of the game, wouldn't you?

Therefore we can draw that Gibbs not only did his job, but did it very well, finishing with 13 touches to Shaw's 6.
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Gibbs only spent one half on him. The rest he was free as a bird and still got crap all of the ball.

When Gibbs tagged Shaw to half time, Shaw had more of the ball.
 

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smiddaz123 said:
Gibbs only spent one half on him. The rest he was free as a bird and still got crap all of the ball.

When Gibbs tagged Shaw to half time, Shaw had more of the ball.
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Your first point is correct.
Your second is incorrect. They both had one touch each in the first half, which was a success for Carlton.
 

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