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Hewitt Chokes - Round One Knockout

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Originally posted by you_idiot


If you're going to bag the guy, break down WHY he lost, and WHY this seems to have been a recent trend in his game.

Having watched a fair chunk of the match, I guess I can jump in on why he lost.

In hindsight, he lost the match in the 2nd set when he had several chances to get the vital break and grab a 2 sets lead. I don't think there is any way Karlovic would've had the mental strength to come back from such a deficit.

The defining point was when Karlovic was serving at 4-5 in the 2nd and Hewitt lifted his game and played some inspiring passing shots, leading to a set point opportunity. Karlovic had served several double points on previous break points and was clearly nervous. After serving a fault, he served a very short second serve that bounced up and (with Karlovic at the net), all Hewitt had to do was get it past Karlovic and the set and match was his.

But he mi**** it, and never looked like breaking his opponent's serve for the rest of the match. The window of opportunity was lost.

Hewitt was rather unadventourous throughout, not going to the net often enough and relying on beating his opponent from the back of the court. He should've been forcing the play by going to the net more and making his opponent hit winners, instead he let Karlovic settle in the 2nd set and he never looked back.

Karlovic is no mug mind you. He's one of the few genuine grass-court players around these days (goes to the net no matter what after serving), the sort of player who used to win Wimbledon before the likes of Agassi and Hewitt began to in recent years. His serve was first-class and got better as the match wore on, it seemed to demoralise Hewitt as much as anything.

As to why Hewitt did so poorly, I think Hewitt is the sort of player who needs to be 100% mentally switched on to avoid suffering shock defeats like this one. He hasn't got the big strokes and massive serve that the likes of Sampras and Agassi have to get through matches on mental autopilot.

Hewitt's greatest strength has been his mental toughness and his ability for his mind to stay focussed on his tennis year in, year out, for virtually every match he plays.

But the signs are that he has been losing his focus in recent months. His French Open loss was a rather meek one, and this one was much worse. For the first time in his career, Hewitt is in a form slump and is the hunted - how he will handle these challenges only time will tell.

And one thing's for sure, Hewitt won't be the Number 1 player this year. He's lost in one hit as many points as you can possibly lose on the tour and according to the latest rankings http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/rankings is not even in the Top 10. If he doesn't match his semi-final performance at the US Open he would be struggling to be in the Top 20 at the end of the year.
 

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Don;t know about tennis ...I recognize most of the top women players but don't know any of the guys mentioned as top seed men except Agassi....what does that say?

Also - should we support a player - no matter who -just cause he's Aussie?
 
Originally posted by TheMase
You're the hypocrite.
You are the one always saying. FORGIVE HEWITT FOR HIS PASTS, BUT HEY THAT SCUD BLOKE IS A MORON FOR WHAT HE DID 6 YEARS AGO.


Its funny though. Hewitt has done similar actions to what people accuse him of, in the last 6 months!

Mark has not done anything since it first happened in 1998.


Oh he disputes line calls, wow, so do a lot of players. It is just that you dont see as much of them because they are from other countries which means the media spotlight isnt on them in Australia. :rolleyes:
God Mcenroe did it and he is a legend of the game and nobody carries on about him. I like him too because he was a character of the game. People say that tennis needs more stuff to get it more exciting to watch but then when someone with a bit of passion comes along like a Hewitt or a Marat Safin, all these morons criticise them.
 
Originally posted by Docker_Brat
Heh, that was way too easy. Reeled in the usual suspects, even with the "waits.." comment at the bottom of my original post, they still jumped on the hook.


I'm sick of this 'tall poppy' crap. Australians don't like bigheads, that's all it boils down to.

I've stated many times that I respect his ability and the work he puts in to get to the top, but that doesn't mean I have to fall on my knees and worship the smartarse, foul mouthed, spoilt little brat that is Lleyton Hewitt.

People like eastaugh and DT are the small minded ones.


You wouldnt know tennis if you mistakenly turned it on instead of your usual pr0n channel. Have you ever played the game or actually been to a tournament??? You wouldnt know who bloody Ellis Ferreira, Bob Bryan or even Kristof Vliegen were !
Even though I disagree, at least I can at least respect people like The Mase who actually have a good knowledge of the sport.
I wouldnt have had much of a problem if Hewitt had actually done something bad at Wimbledon and you posted this thread. I recall back at the Australian Open you were the one who posted this same type of post when he lost. What does that make you???? You sit around on your tiny backside all day waiting for Hewitt to fall before you scurry over to your computer and post this garbage. You need a life buddy. You are pathetic.
By the way, in your mad frenzied rush to your little mate to post this you couldnt even post it in the right forum. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by mandy5
I know I speak for DB, Masey and as it appears quite a few more that have joined our cheersquad....

Hey Easty....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Goooooooooooooooo the Scud! At least there's one Aussie out there with true Aussie spirit doing us proud and not being a constant embarrassment to our country.

Oh our resident victorian tic tac fan is on ! Where are they now??
If you want to be pathetic and come on here and carry on like this then you can. At least I can say I wouldnt have come on here and posted a thread if Philipoussis lost, what does that make you ??? But just maybe I will now that you have posted this garbage.
One thing - Number 1 - something the big girl will never achieve
:D
 
Originally posted by hans moleman
forget hewitt, i'm more disappointed that todd "he shouldn't even be out there" larkham lost in the 1st round...
How old is he now? Seems to be around for ages without ever having done anything, got to give him some credit for fighting a losing battle.
 

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Originally posted by BomberGal
No, however, we shouldn't whinge about him with old arguments and pathetic, irrelevant facts.

The fact is BG, he hasn't changed at all. He's still a sooky, excuse making bad mannered little **** making our arguments current, justified and most definitely still relevant.

When he grows up and stops behaving like a spoilt brat and takes some responsibility, shows some tolerance and learns how to be a gracious loser he might win a few more fans.

But everytime we think he's almost there.......:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by mandy5
He's still a sooky, excuse making bad mannered little **** making our arguments current, justified and most definitely still relevant.

When he grows up and stops behaving like a spoilt brat and takes some responsibility, shows some tolerance and learns how to be a gracious loser he might win a few more fans.

Problem is, Mandy, that I think you've described most of the pros on the tennis tours (women's as well as the men's) down to a 'T'.

Even if this does describe Leyton Hewitt well, problem is, it's still the public perception of many of the other players as well. And a lot of them live up to that shallow reputation.

In other words, it's not just Leyton Hewitt exclusively...

While I'm at it, gotta give credit to Wagstaff. He actually met my challenge and gave valid, substantial reasons as to why Hewitt lost and why his ranking is going into a downward spiral as the result of having not done so well in major tournaments this year.

He's also admitted that he actually watched the match. Wonder how many others here who go on whinging about Hewitt have done the same thing. :confused: :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by you_idiot
Problem is, Mandy, that I think you've described most of the pros on the tennis tours (women's as well as the men's) down to a 'T'.
That's just it. Hewitt is far from the only tennis player who is ill-mannered on court. It seems to be quite the norm for tennis. Which is why I get the impression that a lot of Hewitt's critics - both in the media and the public - are not tennis people.

If it was such a problem the respective tennis bodies would be cracking down on such behaviour with fines and penalties. But they're not. It's left alone as a part of the sport. Yet people continue to have their whinge.
 
Originally posted by DaveW
That's just it. Hewitt is far from the only tennis player who is ill-mannered on court. It seems to be quite the norm for tennis. Which is why I get the impression that a lot of Hewitt's critics - both in the media and the public - are not tennis people.

If it was such a problem the respective tennis bodies would be cracking down on such behaviour with fines and penalties. But they're not. It's left alone as a part of the sport. Yet people continue to have their whinge.

Spot on, Dave.

Point is, as long as the powers-that-be in the tennis hierarchy contimue to turn a blind eye to the petulant bahaviour of those on the front lines that bring an image to the sport, this perception is going to continue.
 
Originally posted by mandy5
The fact is BG, he hasn't changed at all. He's still a sooky, excuse making bad mannered little **** making our arguments current, justified and most definitely still relevant.

When he grows up and stops behaving like a spoilt brat and takes some responsibility, shows some tolerance and learns how to be a gracious loser he might win a few more fans.

But everytime we think he's almost there.......:rolleyes:


Did you see the press conference after the match ????
He had no excuses and gave full credit to his opponent.
Dotn let the facts stand in the way though hey ? :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by eastaugh36
You wouldnt know tennis if you mistakenly turned it on instead of your usual pr0n channel. Have you ever played the game or actually been to a tournament??? You wouldnt know who bloody Ellis Ferreira, Bob Bryan or even Kristof Vliegen were !
Even though I disagree, at least I can at least respect people like The Mase who actually have a good knowledge of the sport.
I wouldnt have had much of a problem if Hewitt had actually done something bad at Wimbledon and you posted this thread. I recall back at the Australian Open you were the one who posted this same type of post when he lost. What does that make you???? You sit around on your tiny backside all day waiting for Hewitt to fall before you scurry over to your computer and post this garbage. You need a life buddy. You are pathetic.
By the way, in your mad frenzied rush to your little mate to post this you couldnt even post it in the right forum. :rolleyes:


Silence is deafening Docker Brat. Typical.............
Oh and another thing, you ran on here and posted straight after the loss that he would have underestimated his opponent. Yeah, thats only why he spent the day before analysing the croatians game and especially his serve on a practice court. :rolleyes:
 

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Originally posted by eastaugh36
Did you see the press conference after the match ????
He had no excuses and gave full credit to his opponent.
Dotn let the facts stand in the way though hey ? :rolleyes:

He had Newks doing the media rounds for him:

"He has family pressures, change of coach, law-suits.....an athlete just can't go into a major tournament will all this off court drama going on around him."

Hmmmm.......

Nah, he NEVER has an excuse, does he? Whoever's mouth in his camp it comes out of..:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by mandy5
He had Newks doing the media rounds for him:

"He has family pressures, change of coach, law-suits.....an athlete just can't go into a major tournament will all this off court drama going on around him."

Hmmmm.......

Nah, he NEVER has an excuse, does he? Whoever's mouth in his camp it comes out of..:rolleyes:
An article has already posted in this thread with Hewitt's comments after the game he gave no excuses and gave full credit to his opponent.
 
Originally posted by kretchy
An article has already posted in this thread with Hewitt's comments after the game he gave no excuses and gave full credit to his opponent.

Yeppers, back on Page 1 of this thread (as posted by yours truly). :)
 
Originally posted by eastaugh36
Silence is deafening Docker Brat. Typical.............
Oh and another thing, you ran on here and posted straight after the loss that he would have underestimated his opponent. Yeah, thats only why he spent the day before analysing the croatians game and especially his serve on a practice court. :rolleyes:

Oh and Greg Rusedski throws a massive tantrum and no response from anyone including our lame little friend. All he would be saying is ..............Greg Who????? :rolleyes:
 

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