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Was gonna wait until later to share this beauty, but figured it is fitting given that it was published after the second Hawthorn loss last year. We even get a special mention.

Charles Happell

Published:
29 July 2016

Two months ago, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick raised eyebrows in some places -- and hearty guffaws in others -- when he suggested the Tigers' current playing list was the best he'd had at his disposal.

At the time, Richmond had just scored encouraging wins over Sydney and Fremantle -- after their horror start to the season -- so perhaps the burst of over-excitement and optimism could be forgiven.

But football analysts less emotionally invested in the Tigers were looking at their squad more objectively and wondering how on earth Hardwick could come to that conclusion.

After the Big Five -- Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio, Dustin Martin, Alex Rance and Jack Riewoldt -- the Tiges' list falls away as sharply as the British pound after last month's Brexit vote. In terms of talent, it has not much more depth than a sidewalk puddle.

Now the Tigers sit in 13th place on the ladder with a 7-10 win-loss record, having won one game more than supposed basket-case, Gold Coast.

And in a tough five-week stretch to end their campaign, contests against GWS, Geelong, St Kilda and Sydney await.

The 2016 season, Hardwick's seventh at the helm, is shaping as another bust.

The main complaint from supporters is not just the losses that keep piling up but the team's tedious, indirect style of play. They routinely switch play across half-back, going sideways and backwards. There's little flair and cause for excitement and Riewoldt, one player capable of getting fans out of their seats, is seemingly encouraged to play up the ground rather than in the goalsquare.

Richmond's BigFooty forum -- admittedly not always the repository of all that is rational and level-headed -- is running a poll on whether the club needs a new coach or not. At the moment, the movement for change is running at 82 percent; those supporting Hardwick at 18 percent.

For many, the effort in the last quarter against Hawthorn on Sunday was the straw that broke the camel's back, the Hawks piling on nine goals to two in the final 30 minutes. Richmond's final score of 5.14 (44) was their lowest in Hardwick's seven seasons in charge.

Even the Tigers' greatest spruiker, Kevin Bartlett, the games record holder and former coach, said he was dismayed by what he saw at the MCG. He told his SEN radio audience on Monday: "The last quarter was like a training drill for Hawthorn: there was no pressure, very little effort, they were kicking sideways and backwards. I was taken aback by the lack of effort."

On FoxFooty's On the Couch program, another former coach, Robert Walls, was equally bemused by the club's progress, saying the Big Five players were too sensitive to criticism and not great leaders.

Of course, chief executive Brendon Gale and his team have done wonderful things off the field, turning around the club's finances and getting the membership up beyond 72,000. Even if their decision in March to re-sign Hardwick for a further two years was an absurd misjudgment.

But on the field, a state of confusion reigns.

That's evidenced by the muddled messaging coming out of Punt Rd this year.

After the Round 3 loss to Adelaide, Hardwick suggested the club needed to take a "half step backwards to take two steps forwards". To many that sounded like he was smoothing the way for a rebuild.

Six weeks later, on May 27, he was hailing his squad as champions in the making.

After Sunday's Hawthorn defeat, he called the team's late defensive efforts as "nothing short of shameful", and gave his best midfielder this year, Dusty Martin, a clip on the way through.

Canning the Tigers has become something of a sport within the AFL commentarial. But, gee, they bring a lot of the ridicule on themselves.

If this is indeed the best playing list Hardwick has had at his disposal, we hold grave fear for the club's -- and his -- short-term future.
 
I've actually been thinking about this comment a lot recently.

Apart from our lack of tall options our list is currently very healthy.
 
I've actually been thinking about this comment a lot recently.

Apart from our lack of tall options our list is currently very healthy.


Wow, I think you have just missed the point!!!!


The list is healthy because of the lack of tall options.

No Angus Graham, no Hampson, no Elton equals mobile bliss!!!!


Thanks you Ty Vickery!!!!

Makes us wonder how well we would have gone if Richo was played on the wing at the start!!!
 
Wow, I think you have just missed the point!!!!


The list is healthy because of the lack of tall options.

No Angus Graham, no Hampson, no Elton equals mobile bliss!!!!


Thanks you Ty Vickery!!!!

What so our list wouldn't look better if you added someone like Ben Brown or Rory Lobb?

Also - Elton and Hampson are both still on the list Magic.
 

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Thats right .

Lobb and Brown would be to RFC's detriment!!!!

Don't tell me you are only getting it now???

You're funnier when you talk about getting Deledio back in our premiership window.
 
Sorry but Butler and co is better than Ty Vickery, the facts just don't lie!!!!!

I love the way you act like this is something I don't believe?

Stop trolling me Magic.
 
I love the way you act like this is something I don't believe?

Stop trolling me Magic.


I don't know what you believe but you, by making presumptions of me through posting the above, are, in effect, trolling me IMO.

Do you think RFC is a bigger chance of getting beat by Geelong since Hawkins has been suspended??

The MRP just did Geelong a great favour!!!!
 

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I don't know what you believe but you, by making presumptions of me through posting the above, are, in effect, trolling me IMO.

Do you think RFC is a bigger chance of getting beat by Geelong since Hawkins has been suspended??

The MRP just did Geelong a great favour!!!!
The mrp did them a favor suspending a bloke averaging 2.5 goals and 6 marks a game? What
 
The mrp did them a favor suspending a bloke averaging 2.5 goals and 6 marks a game? What


Poor efforts IMO and there is more to an effective forward line than that.

Hawkins would not get in RFC's forward line even with Riewoldt not playing in it like last weekend thats for sure!!!!

I have little doubt what Hawkins does not do makes him a big liability and would be a fish out of water in RFC's forward line!!!
 
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Poor efforts IMO and there is more to an effective forward line than that.

Hawkins would not get in RFC's forward line even with Riewoldt paling in it like last weekend thats for sure!!!!

I have little doubt what Hawkins does not do makes him a big liability and would be a fish out of water in RFC's forward line!!!
So you wouldn't want Hawkins but your keen on hansen.... right
 
So you wouldn't want Hawkins but your keen on hansen.... right


Thats correct because Hansen can play back as well as forward, is better in the clutch decision making area, has better endurance so would have better synergy with our ball movement and can play more roles with more mobility and superior positioning.

The fact is Hansen helps us get Bontempelli and or Bontempelli/Fyfe types even if through the draft which we need and Hawkins does not end of story!!!


So Hansen makes us a better contender like a Pike for the Lions!!!


Hansen simply is better suited to our rapid ball movement while Hawkins is a slow coach.

The fastest movement is between the ears!!!

Our number one target going forward is a Bontempelli type and Hansen helps us achieve that!!
 
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Hansen can play back as well as forward, is better in the clutch decision making area, has better endurance so would have better synergy with our ball movement and can play more roles with more mobility and superior positioning.

No, no, no. Hansen makes terrible decisions. FFS, he can't get a game at his current club.

He can't stay on the park. The only thing I can agree with is he can play back or fwd. Hansen NO.

Jesus, we just got rid of a Vickery type and HAnsen? I'll just go and take my cocktail of pills now shall i?
 

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I 100% backed Hardwick in with those comments when he made them. We have strengthened our team every year. Look at where our list was when Dimma took over. Anyone who didn't believe it was the best list Dimma had were deluded.

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This was the list we had in 2010. Dimma's first year. Absolutely horrid.
 
Focus on Footy leading to the coming of Balme and Caracella.
Peggy told to shut up and concentrate on getting us a Women's team and never to use the word stability again.
The rest is history.

Who told Peggy to shut up TI?

Haere Ra
 
I 100% backed Hardwick in with those comments when he made them. We have strengthened our team every year. Look at where our list was when Dimma took over. Anyone who didn't believe it was the best list Dimma had were deluded.

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This was the list we had in 2010. Dimma's first year. Absolutely horrid.
Number 36 goes alright
 

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