Hows Egan

[Bentleigh]

Traveling?

 

[FIGJAM]

Didn't play in either the Willi game (which I went and saw and was disappointed that he wasn't playing) or the seniors game against the Swans.

He's impressed everyone with his skills, although he drifts in and out of games (which we knew anyway), and managed to kick 5 goals in the last quarter of his last game for the Towners to win the game.

We need this sort of freak. Someone who has ability over workhorse!

 

[bucksisbest]

Copped a corky so he didn't play against Box Hill last week.
As FIGJAM said he won Williamstown the game against the Bullants.

 

[MarkT]

I would already play him ahead of Leon.

 

[hotpie]

Mark, you're always saying this young kid and that young kid should be played immediately yet when Fraser goes down you bag the club for exposing him to too much senior footy too soon.

Make up your mind.

 

[FIGJAM]

I think hp's right.

I also think that the assumption that the rigours on the body at AFL and VFL would have been significantly different, is a weird one!

Josh still trains and runs hard five or six days per week, plus he copped a knock aginst Freo a couple of years back (whilst playing forward) an has sort of had issues with it since. There's no real pin pointing what has caused this injury.

That said, freaky or flashy players like Egan and Rowe are obviously less subject to rigours of AFL than a senna square ruckman, so MrT's not being entirely without reason.

I wouldn't play the Eggman ahead of Leon yet, but that's no vote of confidence for Leon!

 

[hotpie]

Gotta admit, five goals in a quarter sounds pretty encouraging!!!

 

[Bentleigh]

Mark, you're always saying this young kid and that young kid should be played immediately yet when Fraser goes down you bag the club for exposing him to too much senior footy too soon.

Make up your mind.

Ruckman, and to a lesser extent kPP are differnt.

Richmond are rebuilding and as Wallace has said long term its best to get 50 games out the kids as fast as possible.

Wouldny you think that largly applys to many of Collingwoods kids and espcially Egan?

 

[hotpie]

Egan needs more than one quarter of footy before he plays seniors. He's only played a few games and been injured twice already.

Happy to see him kept in cotton wool most of 2005, unless he forces his way in through outstanding form in the VFL. Hope to see a few games out of him late this season.

 

[jefffff34]

Hope to see a few games out of him late this season.

Like Richard Hadley in 2003? Semi, prelim and granny?

 

[hotpie]

Like Richard Hadley in 2003? Semi, prelim and granny?

sounds good to me!!!

 

[browny4PM]

Egan was out on the track at training today but did nothing more than have a chin wag with Tommy D and a trainer.

His body is nowhere near ready for senior footy, he looks like one contest and he'd snap.

Having said that his skills are pretty good, so lets just get the boy on whatever Taz's eating (or taking).

 

[Lonie_from_50]

My Thoughts On Egan.

From what I have seen, he is too quick for his own good and his skills are terrible. Maybe picked at number 10 more for athletic ability than Football Skills, we have seen that happen before.

I caught the second half of the Williamstown curtainraiser game v Bullants before the Pies v Power game at Optus Oval, and he played in the goalsquare and managed 2 or 3 goals in the final quarter.

An ugly fella also.

 

[Bentleigh]

Is Egans body too small for round 1? Although Tambling is quite smallish atm he is fairly solid and goes hard in for the ball. I see him never being a monster but developing a Wells like build in a couple years.

Tambling looks like playing on a flank/pocket/wing but will move into the guts when about Wells current age, in his 3rd season of football. Do you reckon Egan will have this capacity?

In hindsite are you happy with Egan at pick 10? Could have had another Fraser in Wood, some good KPP's on offer in Dunn & Pattison. Personally I reckon you should have gone for Danny Meyer (Richmond, pick 12). He isnt ready for seniors but a very skillful, consisant kid. Looks the goods.

 

[hotpie]

In hindsite are you happy with Egan at pick 10?

Drafting a player is a five-ten year decision, and the kid hasnt played a senior game yet. In fact the season hasn't started. Whether he's ready to play seniors in March 2005 has no bearing on whether he's going to play 20, 100, 200 or 300 games.

What hindsight could we possibly have?

 

[derro]

hes aboriginal so its a big lucky dip not worth pick 10 IMO

 

[Bentleigh]

hes aboriginal so its a big lucky dip not worth pick 10 IMO

Was Tambling worth a top 10?

Ditto Wells?

btw - I agree Egan wasnt a top 10 pick.

 

[bradrowe#32]

We need this sort of freak. Someone who has ability over workhorse!

I agree. We have enough grunt players, but we really need someone will skills. Time will tell I guess. He sounds pretty inconsistent. I'm trying to think of a player that was very inconsistent in his younger days and then became a solid contributor every week. Anthony Rocca perhaps was one?

 

[FIGJAM]

Is Egans body too small for round 1? Although Tambling is quite smallish atm he is fairly solid and goes hard in for the ball. I see him never being a monster but developing a Wells like build in a couple years.

Tambling looks like playing on a flank/pocket/wing but will move into the guts when about Wells current age, in his 3rd season of football. Do you reckon Egan will have this capacity?

In hindsite are you happy with Egan at pick 10? Could have had another Fraser in Wood, some good KPP's on offer in Dunn & Pattison. Personally I reckon you should have gone for Danny Meyer (Richmond, pick 12). He isnt ready for seniors but a very skillful, consisant kid. Looks the goods.

I think it's a bit early to be making judgements.

Tambling's body is wiry and strong for his age. Egan still has a boy's body.

Don't listen to Lonie from 50, cause he's full of ********. I haven't heard anything other than the fact that Egan has sublime skills, especially with his feet. And if he really did see him against the Bullants, then he'd have seen him kick four in the last quarter. Dunno what more you'd ask for from a boy!

As for Meyer, we has the chance to pick him up and said no, he's an inferior player to the Eggman.

 

[Bentleigh]

Tambling's body is wiry and strong for his age. Egan still has a boy's body.

Tambling does indeed have a strong body which should mature into a Wells build and frame of the current.

Ready for Round 1. 50 games under the kids belt asap.

As for Meyer, we has the chance to pick him up and said no, he's an inferior player to the Eggman.

Meyer is an inferior player to Egan due to Collingwood not picking him up at 10?

Thus:

Hodge > Judd,
Fraser > Palvich etc?

 

[FIGJAM]

Meyer is an inferior player to Egan due to Collingwood not picking him up at 10?

Thus:

Hodge > Judd,
Fraser > Palvich etc?

At the time of drafting, yes, that is the opinion of the recruiting staff.

I'm merely responding to your nonsensical claim that we should have drafted Meyer.

You've barely seen any of Meyer yourself and you've seen none of Egan, so I think it's best to shut up and let nature take its course, especially when it isn't even Round 1 yet!!

 

[Bentleigh]

At the time of drafting, yes, that is the opinion of the recruiting staff.

I'm merely responding to your nonsensical claim that we should have drafted Meyer.

You've barely seen any of Meyer yourself and you've seen none of Egan, so I think it's best to shut up and let nature take its course, especially when it isn't even Round 1 yet!!

At the time of drafting in the opion of COLLINGWOOD recruting staff. Not the footbal world.

Most experts had Meyer top 10, Egan out of the top 30.

 

[FIGJAM]

At the time of drafting in the opion of COLLINGWOOD recruting staff. Not the footbal world.

Most experts had Meyer top 10, Egan out of the top 30.

Now you're talking out of your arse!

Melbourne were reportedly very keen to pick Egan at 14. Pretty much all "experts" had Egan as definite top ten talent, but question marks over his consistency. Pick ten is hardly over the odds for a matchwinning midfielder/forward.

Let it rest FFS. Like I said, neither of us know jack shyte at this stage.

I think you'd be better off arguing the relative value of players you've barely seen with Dawks supporters!

 

[Bentleigh]

Now you're talking out of your arse!

Melbourne were reportedly very keen to pick Egan at 14. Pretty much all "experts" had Egan as definite top ten talent, but question marks over his consistency. Pick ten is hardly over the odds for a matchwinning midfielder/forward.

Let it rest FFS. Like I said, neither of us know jack shyte at this stage.

I think you'd be better off arguing the relative value of players you've barely seen with Dawks supporters!

Footydraft had him at 25ish
Colin Wisbey further back.

Good luck to the lad.

 

[FIGJAM]

Footydraft had him at 25ish
Colin Wisbey further back.

Good luck to the lad.

Footydraft (GOALden Hawk) said that on talent alone, Egan was probably top ten material.

Colin ranked Egan as 11th best in the draft. Ranked Meyer at 16.

But why let facts get in the way of a pointless argument?!