Autopsy I did it - The Round 14 JHF 3 Brownlow Votes Highlights

[Belnakor]

That has to be in contention for the worst 3 vote game in the history of the sport.

its actually not even close.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

That has to be in contention for the worst 3 vote game in the history of the sport.

Robbert Klomp?

 

[SheezNuts]

Who were the umpires for this game?

And are any of them known port fans or south australians?

 

[Goggin Our Best]

That has to be in contention for the worst 3 vote game in the history of the sport.

Robert Klomps 4 kick game out at Waverly one night in the old Escort Cup - and awarded the colour TV for best player on the ground would give it a run for its money

Poor old Klomp - thats the only thing he is remembered for in his football career !!!

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Robbert Klomp?

Sorry i didnt see your earlier post

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Sorry i didnt see your earlier post

Great minds...

Yep Klomp has 2 premiership medals but it's that dodgy old tv in the man-cave that he's famous for

Lou Richards at his finest that night

 

[sobrave]

Phillips was very good in that game, him and Draper destroyed Grundy. The puzzling part is how Draper missed a vote.

Draper kicked 3 goals to Phillips 2 and had more disposals. I think Philips had 3 more hitouts? How does that make him BOG lol.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Robbert Klomp?

Robert Klomps 4 kick game out at Waverly one night in the old Escort Cup - and awarded the colour TV for best player on the ground would give it a run for its money

Poor old Klomp - thats the only thing he is remembered for in his football career !!!

"3 vote game". As in regular season game for premiership points that counts towards the Brownlow.
Open to other worthy candidates, but Klomp doesn't count.

 

[Belnakor]

"3 vote game". As in regular season game for premiership points that counts towards the Brownlow.
Open to other worthy candidates, but Klomp doesn't count.

There is another thread on this but this one is a cracker:

AFL Tables - Melbourne v Western Bulldogs - Fri, 18-Apr-1997 7:40 PM - Match Stats

Chris Grant gets the chocolates for a 10-disposal effort

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

There is another thread on this but this one is a cracker:

AFL Tables - Melbourne v Western Bulldogs - Fri, 18-Apr-1997 7:40 PM - Match Stats

Chris Grant gets the chocolates for a 10-disposal effort

WOW! That's up there.
They didn't record as many stats back then, but 10 disposals, 1 mark, 1 tackle and 3 hitouts is pretty hard to dress up, especially when at least 13 players looked to contribute significantly more.
Was that they year he topped the votes but was ineligible?

 

[Blackhawk42]

That has to be in contention for the worst 3 vote game in the history of the sport.

Sam Draper round 1 of 2021 is still close as well.

Andrew McGrath had 33 touches, 11 tackles and a goal.
Zach Merrett 31, a goal and 8 inside 50s.

Tom Mitchell had 39 and 5 tackles
Dylan Moore had 19 and 3 goals, but 14 touches and 3 goals came in the third quarter when the Hawks cut the margin from 7 goals to nothing. Massive impact on the result.

Draper had 10 disposals, 2 marks and 24 hitouts and got 3 votes, in a LOSING side.
His two opponents (McEvoy and Cegalr) individually had more disposals, more marks, the same amount of goals (1 each), and both contributed 14 hitouts each, but split their time in the middle more than Draper did (who only rotated occasionally with Peter Wright).

 

[flamethrower]

There is another thread on this but this one is a cracker:

AFL Tables - Melbourne v Western Bulldogs - Fri, 18-Apr-1997 7:40 PM - Match Stats

Chris Grant gets the chocolates for a 10-disposal effort

David Neitz destroyed the Bulldogs in the 1st half so Chris Grant was moved onto him and changed the game from a Melbourne slaughter to comeback win by the Dogs. Back in the day when defenders actually polled Brownlow votes for nullifying forwards, and bloated midfielder stats were treated with the respect they deserve - none.

 

[Jamolad]

Let me start of by clarifying that this is in no way an indictment against JHF, I understand he's just a kid playing footy.

I did this because I had time, someone requested it and I was curious. Watching the count I was baffled many times, games where the losing team had the player getting both the 3 and the 2 votes, even when it wasn't close, games where a player that shouldn't have even gotten a vote, got the 3 votes happened a lot, as is well documented.

But the cherry on the cake was this game. After going through it, there really is only one explanation for how it's possible, corruption.

On paper, the stats show a 13 possession game, sure, not impossible for a player to be best on ground (and fairest) with 13 touches, but if you actually watch the game, you will see not only should it be impossible, it's actually as if it's a joke being rubbed in our faces, as if they are saying "look, here is a player that not only isn't anywhere near the best player, but is clearly the most unfair player of the game, but we are going to give him 3 votes anyway and you will all squabble about it and we will have news for a few days to sell papers and sell clicks lol".

You can watch the game yourselves, my 3, 2, 1 were -

Marshall - 3

Rozee - 2

Butters - 1

Unlucky is Holmes, Alir, Houston and Guthrie, then there is at least 30 other players ahead of JHF for this game, no joke, almost 40 players had a better game than JHF, but JHF polled 3 votes lmao

Now, I don't subscribe to umpires being confused by JHF and Bergman, thinking they are the same player. These umpires are professionals and they all know exactly who JHF and Bergman are. Even if you combined the two of them, they were both equal to about the 30th best player of this game lol.


Every time he went near the ball and touched the ball or impacted is in this 6 odd minutes.
It really is astonishing, the first Q he has 1 kick 1 handball and the last Q he has 1 kick 1 handball, he literally has zero impact on the game. There is a 30 second period where he does a couple of things, everything else was literally meaningless to the game and result.
I highlighted a couple of times where he yells at the umpire, dives into a tackle to draw high contact and gives away the only 50m penalty for Port.
No other player for this game came anywhere near the levels of disrespect or however you want to define 'fair' as people who defend the Brownlow will say "It'S nOt jUSt tHe bEsT bUt ThE fAirEststss".

Anyway, see for yourself and tell me and tell yourself that there is an explanation other than blatant, clear and obvious corruption.
I was surprised the AFL posted a detailed blog about it today, almost as if they're mocking the situation, detailing a round by round blow of games where players polled perfect 10 coaches votes and zero Brownlow votes hahaha -

link to that here - Shock BOGs, perfect 10s but no votes: Brownlow Medal surprises


Link to the full game here - Match Replay: Port Adelaide v Geelong


Bigfooty won't allow me to upload and AFL copyright the video instantly on YouTube, so Vimeo it is, was originally in 4k but Vimeo took it down to 720p, cheers.


Link to JHF impossible 3 vote game 'highlights' -


Cheers.

Got to admit, big part of me was hoping you included a couple of Bergman possessions in there for the lolz

 

[jenny61_99]

There’s only one answer to that …betting.

Senior umpire convinces the younger ones to be in agreement that JHF gets 3

Senior umpire gets mate to put a bet on that Jase gets more than 10 votes all up.

Either that or all the idiot umpires got confused with Bergman

Who only had 6 possessions...

 

[Engimal v3]

Wow, this is that X factor the Port fans were talking about

 

[Shane Heard]

Wow, this is that X factor the Port fans were talking about

More like JHF* …Brownlow 23’

 

[Mags98]

No use that when the umpires mates spread their bets between multiple bookies over many weeks making it very difficult to identify the dodgy shenanigans in place.

bets for 3 votes on particular rounds only open like a week before the count, and are also limited to $250 winnings im pretty sure, so that theory doesnt really fit.

 

[Shane Heard]

bets for 3 votes on particular rounds only open like a week before the count, and are also limited to $250 winnings im pretty sure, so that theory doesnt really fit.

Good point.

But again …either the umpires are completely incapable of voting accurately every week or they are just dumb and/or don’t understand the difference between an outstanding game vs mediocre.

 

[Mags98]

Good point.

But again …either the umpires are completely incapable of voting accurately every week or they are just dumb and don’t understand the difference between an outstanding game vs mediocre.

yep a real boggling one tbh, id hope some journos or someone can dig for some sort of explanation from the umps

 

[Shane Heard]

yep a real boggling one tbh, id hope some journos or someone can dig for some sort of explanation from the umps

Getting a response from the AFL commission anything umpire negative is like asking the Vatican for a response about pedo Catholic priests

 

[dazzler1974]

Police raid referees' HQ amid Barca investigation

Police search the offices of the Spanish refereeing committee as part of an investigation into Barcelona's alleged corrupt payments to an official.

www.bbc.com

There is corruption everywhere in sport. It would be naive to think the AFL hasn't been compromised in some way.

 

[Engimal v3]

Let me start of by clarifying that this is in no way an indictment against JHF, I understand he's just a kid playing footy.

I did this because I had time, someone requested it and I was curious. Watching the count I was baffled many times, games where the losing team had the player getting both the 3 and the 2 votes, even when it wasn't close, games where a player that shouldn't have even gotten a vote, got the 3 votes happened a lot, as is well documented.

But the cherry on the cake was this game. After going through it, there really is only one explanation for how it's possible, corruption.

On paper, the stats show a 13 possession game, sure, not impossible for a player to be best on ground (and fairest) with 13 touches, but if you actually watch the game, you will see not only should it be impossible, it's actually as if it's a joke being rubbed in our faces, as if they are saying "look, here is a player that not only isn't anywhere near the best player, but is clearly the most unfair player of the game, but we are going to give him 3 votes anyway and you will all squabble about it and we will have news for a few days to sell papers and sell clicks lol".

You can watch the game yourselves, my 3, 2, 1 were -

Marshall - 3

Rozee - 2

Butters - 1

Unlucky is Holmes, Alir, Houston and Guthrie, then there is at least 30 other players ahead of JHF for this game, no joke, almost 40 players had a better game than JHF, but JHF polled 3 votes lmao

Now, I don't subscribe to umpires being confused by JHF and Bergman, thinking they are the same player. These umpires are professionals and they all know exactly who JHF and Bergman are. Even if you combined the two of them, they were both equal to about the 30th best player of this game lol.


Every time he went near the ball and touched the ball or impacted is in this 6 odd minutes.
It really is astonishing, the first Q he has 1 kick 1 handball and the last Q he has 1 kick 1 handball, he literally has zero impact on the game. There is a 30 second period where he does a couple of things, everything else was literally meaningless to the game and result.
I highlighted a couple of times where he yells at the umpire, dives into a tackle to draw high contact and gives away the only 50m penalty for Port.
No other player for this game came anywhere near the levels of disrespect or however you want to define 'fair' as people who defend the Brownlow will say "It'S nOt jUSt tHe bEsT bUt ThE fAirEststss".

Anyway, see for yourself and tell me and tell yourself that there is an explanation other than blatant, clear and obvious corruption.
I was surprised the AFL posted a detailed blog about it today, almost as if they're mocking the situation, detailing a round by round blow of games where players polled perfect 10 coaches votes and zero Brownlow votes hahaha -

link to that here - Shock BOGs, perfect 10s but no votes: Brownlow Medal surprises


Link to the full game here - Match Replay: Port Adelaide v Geelong


Bigfooty won't allow me to upload and AFL copyright the video instantly on YouTube, so Vimeo it is, was originally in 4k but Vimeo took it down to 720p, cheers.


Link to JHF impossible 3 vote game 'highlights' -


Cheers.

Can we get the video re-published? Really want to settle down into my evening and watch one of the all time great performances