Autopsy I did it - The Round 14 JHF 3 Brownlow Votes Highlights

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Let me start of by clarifying that this is in no way an indictment against JHF, I understand he's just a kid playing footy.

I did this because I had time, someone requested it and I was curious. Watching the count I was baffled many times, games where the losing team had the player getting both the 3 and the 2 votes, even when it wasn't close, games where a player that shouldn't have even gotten a vote, got the 3 votes happened a lot, as is well documented.

But the cherry on the cake was this game. After going through it, there really is only one explanation for how it's possible, corruption.

On paper, the stats show a 13 possession game, sure, not impossible for a player to be best on ground (and fairest) with 13 touches, but if you actually watch the game, you will see not only should it be impossible, it's actually as if it's a joke being rubbed in our faces, as if they are saying "look, here is a player that not only isn't anywhere near the best player, but is clearly the most unfair player of the game, but we are going to give him 3 votes anyway and you will all squabble about it and we will have news for a few days to sell papers and sell clicks lol".

You can watch the game yourselves, my 3, 2, 1 were -

Marshall - 3

Rozee - 2

Butters - 1

Unlucky is Holmes, Alir, Houston and Guthrie, then there is at least 30 other players ahead of JHF for this game, no joke, almost 40 players had a better game than JHF, but JHF polled 3 votes lmao

Now, I don't subscribe to umpires being confused by JHF and Bergman, thinking they are the same player. These umpires are professionals and they all know exactly who JHF and Bergman are. Even if you combined the two of them, they were both equal to about the 30th best player of this game lol.


Every time he went near the ball and touched the ball or impacted is in this 6 odd minutes.
It really is astonishing, the first Q he has 1 kick 1 handball and the last Q he has 1 kick 1 handball, he literally has zero impact on the game. There is a 30 second period where he does a couple of things, everything else was literally meaningless to the game and result.
I highlighted a couple of times where he yells at the umpire, dives into a tackle to draw high contact and gives away the only 50m penalty for Port.
No other player for this game came anywhere near the levels of disrespect or however you want to define 'fair' as people who defend the Brownlow will say "It'S nOt jUSt tHe bEsT bUt ThE fAirEststss".

Anyway, see for yourself and tell me and tell yourself that there is an explanation other than blatant, clear and obvious corruption.
I was surprised the AFL posted a detailed blog about it today, almost as if they're mocking the situation, detailing a round by round blow of games where players polled perfect 10 coaches votes and zero Brownlow votes hahaha -

link to that here - Shock BOGs, perfect 10s but no votes: Brownlow Medal surprises


Link to the full game here - Match Replay: Port Adelaide v Geelong


Bigfooty won't allow me to upload and AFL copyright the video instantly on YouTube, so Vimeo it is, was originally in 4k but Vimeo took it down to 720p, cheers.


Link to JHF impossible 3 vote game 'highlights' -


Cheers.
 

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A lot of perfect people on this website. Humans make mistakes.

Gee it’s hard to defend this one, though.

A rugby league equivalent tomorrow night at the Dally Ms would be a front rower having 6 runs for 40 metres, 12 tackles, 0 tackle breaks, two knock-ons, two penalties conceded and half a dozen missed tackles, no offloads, no line breaks or line break assists, and banking best on ground.

A good game would be 14 runs, 150 metres gained, 8 tackle breaks, 35 tackles, 2 missed, 0 dropped balls and 0 penalties conceded, 3 offloads, a line break.

That’s not a mistake, that’s an out and out attempt to corrupt the process or a sign that umpires shouldn’t be relied on to give an assessment if they are capable of being THAT far off the mark
 
When faced with cause being a conspiracy (corruption in this case) or just unplanned incompetence, I'll always favour the latter


That's why corruption is more often than not, gotten away with, even in the highest of places, Judges, Politicians, Police, because someone who thinks of themselves as level headed and logical, such as yourself, will presume the humans are just silly billy's and didn't mean it.
 
The AFL definitely have to at least look into this. Even if it just ends up being a complete mistake then it still needs to be investigated.
 

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The wildest thing about it to me is the constant whinging and mouthing off to umpires. Players who do that normally can't get a vote even if they have 40 and kick goals.


Exactly, he was the only player, literally, the only player to mouth off at the umpires and show aggression towards the umpires, he gave away Ports only 50m penalty, which cost them a goal, 12 out of his 13 touches were either meaningless or direct turn overs.

Clear and blatant, they didn't even try to hide it, someone who shouldn't have even come close, in fact, should have been the last player apart from the subs to even be considered for a vote, polled the 3.


This was one game, there were many games this year where it was beyond just plain old incompetence.........
 
The AFL definitely have to at least look into this. Even if it just ends up being a complete mistake then it still needs to be investigated.

I think its extremely difficult to put this down to a "mistake" all 4 umpires would of seen he had extremely minimal impact on the game.

Its not like you know a middle of the range game of 20+ disposals so you could say they overreached.
 
Imagine being labelled a lazy turncoat with a bad attitude by North supporters having had no pre season and still topping any North players in the Brownlow.

Thats the real scandal.
This thread is about Jason's performance in Round 14. Are you lost?
 
Why would it be corruption? What did the umpires have to gain from JHF getting the 3 votes?
 
Why would it be corruption? What did the umpires have to gain from JHF getting the 3 votes?


Questions formulated to be rhetorical where the enquirer ironically is asking the right questions.

There seems to be a cage around your mind where you think foul play is somehow not possible.

Michael Pell says hi.

AFL says nothing to see here, move along, the structure and system is fine the way it is.
 
Why would it be corruption? What did the umpires have to gain from JHF getting the 3 votes?
There’s only one answer to that …betting.

Senior umpire convinces the younger ones to be in agreement that JHF gets 3

Senior umpire gets mate to put a bet on that Jase gets more than 10 votes all up.

Either that or all the idiot umpires got confused with Bergman
 
Questions formulated to be rhetorical where the enquirer ironically is asking the right questions.

There seems to be a cage around your mind where you think foul play is somehow not possible.

Michael Pell says hi.

AFL says nothing to see here, move along, the structure and system is fine the way it is.
He didn't rig the votes, he allegedly told his buddies who was getting the votes.
 

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