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Because a large majority of Western countries have ageing populations.

Older voters disproportionately vote conservative.

I was reading an article the other day and was surprised to learn that Canada is a bit of an outlier in that respect, with under 35's making up their voting majority due to their open door immigration policy. Which in part explains how a lightweight like Trudeau was elected. Interestingly that he is currently the oldest out of their 3 major party leaders at 47 years old. The other 2 both being borderline millennials at only 40 years old. From what I understand Canadian millennials are more upset with Trudeau for an oil pipeline that is in their national interests than they are about his "problematic" racism and general deuchebaggery. Just another reason why I'm glad that we have responsible levels of immigration and refugee intake here, otherwise with a millennial majority we could potentially have every major party pandering to the the far-left climate cult and end up with some watermelon Greens extremist like Sarah Hanson Young as our PM.
 
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I was reading an article the other day and was surprised to learn that Canada is a bit of an outlier in that respect, with under 35's making up their voting majority due to their open door immigration policy. Which in part explains how a lightweight like Trudeau was elected. Interestingly that he is currently the oldest out of their 3 mayor party leaders at 47 years old. The other 2 both being borderline millennials at only 40 years old. From what I understand Canadian millennials are more upset with Trudeau for an oil pipeline that is in their national interests than they are about his "problematic" racism and general deuchebaggery. Just another reason why I'm glad that we have responsible levels of immigration and refugee intake here, otherwise with a millennial majority we could potentially have every major party pandering to the the far-left climate cult and end up with some watermelon Greens extremist like Sarah Hanson Young as our PM.
I'd probably disagree with you there, as much as I agree with the rest of your post.

Our immigration levels are still far too high (with respect to infrastructure and the environment, not to mention social cohesion) and the proportion of our immigration intake that are refugees is too low. We also don't exercise a responsible migration policy: that is that we are basically profiting from the brain drain of developing countries and not enough educated immigrants are returning to their home countries to better them economically (and arguably socially).

That's the problem with having these types of views as a millennial: far right wing type call me a left wing loony and left wing types call me a confused lefty. You don't fit in with either group, but at least conservatives will reason with you. The Far Left just rant and rave and call you a racist. I couldn't care less either way. Just another example of the horseshoe theory at work.
 
I'd probably disagree with you there, as much as I agree with the rest of your post.

Our immigration levels are still far too high (with respect to infrastructure and the environment, not to mention social cohesion) and the proportion of our immigration intake that are refugees is too low. We also don't exercise a responsible migration policy: that is that we are basically profiting from the brain drain of developing countries and not enough educated immigrants are returning to their home countries to better them economically (and arguably socially).

That's the problem with having these types of views as a millennial: far right wing type call me a left wing loony and left wing types call me a confused lefty. You don't fit in with either group, but at least conservatives will reason with you. The Far Left just rant and rave and call you a racist. I couldn't care less either way. Just another example of the horseshoe theory at work.

Educated people with skills are just as worthy of a better life imo. Agree to disagree.

Would you describe yourself as a Libertarian or Classic Liberal by any chance? Nothing wrong with that. It's crazy how often a lefty journalist like Joe Hildebrand for instance gets attacked and called a nazi, racist, fascist online by other Aussie leftists for daring to sometimes call out the really crazy stuff from the far-left when they go too far. Which ironically usually helps make his point.
 
Educated people with skills are just as worthy of a better life. Agree to disagree.

Would you describe yourself as a Libertarian or Classic Liberal by any chance? Nothing wrong with that. It's crazy how often a lefty journalist like Joe Hildebrand for instance gets attacked and called a nazi, racist, fascist online by other Aussie leftists for daring to sometimes call out the really crazy stuff from the far-left when they go too far. Which ironically usually helps make his point.
Educated people are just as worthy of a better life. But it's basic selflessness. I'm a major opponent of economic migration- I believe the only way for the world to truly move forward is for the elites of all countries to make some sacrifices. Not just the white ones.

I've tried to find a political definition that fits me for years and have never found one. I consider myself to be basically a political mongrel.

I quite like Hildebrand. I don't always agree with him, but he usually makes a pretty good point.

But I think it shows how far the pendulum has swung that he can be abused like that. But we are not dealing with rational people. The rational Left was dispersed in the early 2000s. These people actively seek violence and disorder. For many of them, it's the only way to bring a sense of meaning into their lives, through an injection of righteous adrenaline, because they lack the perspective or compassion to truly empathise with others while furiously trying to manufacture victimhood/virtuehood from whatever pieces of their lives they can cobble together.
 
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Educated people are just as worthy of a better life. But it's basic selflessness. I'm a major opponent of economic migration- I believe the only way for the world to truly move forward is for the elites of all countries to make some sacrifices. Not just the white ones.

I've tried to find a political definition that fits me for years and have never found one. I consider myself to be basically a political mongrel.

I quite like Hildebrand. I don't always agree with him, but he usually makes a pretty good point.

But I think it shows how far the pendulum has swung that he can be abused like that. But we are not dealing with rational people. The rational Left was dispersed in the early 2000s. These people actively seek violence and disorder. For many of them, it's the only way to bring a sense of meaning into their lives, through an injection of righteous adrenaline, because they lack the perspective or compassion to truly empathise with others while furiously trying to manufacture victimhood/virtuehood from whatever pieces of their lives they can cobble together.

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. :)
 
I was reading an article the other day and was surprised to learn that Canada is a bit of an outlier in that respect, with under 35's making up their voting majority due to their open door immigration policy. Which in part explains how a lightweight like Trudeau was elected. Interestingly that he is currently the oldest out of their 3 mayor party leaders at 47 years old. The other 2 both being borderline millennials at only 40 years old. From what I understand Canadian millennials are more upset with Trudeau for an oil pipeline that is in their national interests than they are about his "problematic" racism and general deuchebaggery. Just another reason why I'm glad that we have responsible levels of immigration and refugee intake here, otherwise with a millennial majority we could potentially have every major party pandering to the the far-left climate cult and end up with some watermelon Greens extremist like Sarah Hanson Young as our PM.
Lol

This reminds me of stock standard anti-immigration fear mongering from Republican voters

"The Dems will let in all the illegal immigrants, then the illegal immigrants will all vote for The Dems." Yeah um, how can illegal immigrants vote when they shouldn't even be in the country? Surely they'll expose themselves and be deported if they try registering themselves...

Imo not having a Murdochracy in that country would be of significant influence in regards to how that country votes too imo.

NZ, no Murdochracy either, different government
I'd probably disagree with you there, as much as I agree with the rest of your post.

Our immigration levels are still far too high (with respect to infrastructure and the environment, not to mention social cohesion) and the proportion of our immigration intake that are refugees is too low. We also don't exercise a responsible migration policy: that is that we are basically profiting from the brain drain of developing countries and not enough educated immigrants are returning to their home countries to better them economically (and arguably socially).
This is a good post

Immigrants come here, study or get jobs and they all seem to settle down in the outskirts of either Sydney or Melbourne, it's not really spread around for mine and just leaves more weight on the shoulders of those cities to carry.

Also many of the jobs they take, many Australians could be doing instead. Imo there's a massive lack of willingness from employers/big business to train up locals, leading to an unemployment rate that never really drops below 5%

That's the problem with having these types of views as a millennial: far right wing type call me a left wing loony and left wing types call me a confused lefty. You don't fit in with either group, but at least conservatives will reason with you. The Far Left just rant and rave and call you a racist. I couldn't care less either way. Just another example of the horseshoe theory at work.
You seem fairly rational and in the middle from what I've seen
Educated people with skills are just as worthy of a better life imo. Agree to disagree.

Would you describe yourself as a Libertarian or Classic Liberal by any chance? Nothing wrong with that. It's crazy how often a lefty journalist like Joe Hildebrand for instance gets attacked and called a nazi, racist, fascist online by other Aussie leftists for daring to sometimes call out the really crazy stuff from the far-left when they go too far. Which ironically usually helps make his point.
I haven't seen Hildebrand make a pro-left stance in god knows when, he seems to be centre-right these days.

I've agreed with Andrew Bolt on more things than him recently and Bolt is horrendous most of the time.
Educated people are just as worthy of a better life. But it's basic selflessness. I'm a major opponent of economic migration- I believe the only way for the world to truly move forward is for the elites of all countries to make some sacrifices. Not just the white ones.
Agree, but in this capitalist world we live in, it won't happen
 
That moment when the self proclaimed "anti-fascists" revealed themselves as the ACTUAL Fascists.

Blocking the path of and screaming NAZI SCUM! at a 90 year old lady with a zimmer frame is peak millennial far-left protest culture. What's really disturbing is that sporting organizations like the AFL are actually endorsing the same violent, militant, anarchist behavior -as seen during the GF entertainment by glorifying hoodie clad, far-left antifa style, youth led terrorism.

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Really? I thought they were protesting fat-shaming. :)
 
Immigrants come here, study or get jobs and they all seem to settle down in the outskirts of either Sydney or Melbourne, it's not really spread around for mine and just leaves more weight on the shoulders of those cities to carry.

Also many of the jobs they take, many Australians could be doing instead. Imo there's a massive lack of willingness from employers/big business to train up locals, leading to an unemployment rate that never really drops below 5%
Agreed. If we are going to have globalism, the effects should go both ways.

I think that global population growth needs to be the number one concern and is the main barrier between developing countries becoming developed. You simply can't be a developed country with 100+ people per sq km.

 
Agreed. If we are going to have globalism, the effects should go both ways.

I think that global population growth needs to be the number one concern and is the main barrier between developing countries becoming developed. You simply can't be a developed country with 100+ people per sq km.


As much as I'm not a fan over the way they control their citizens lives these days, China at least got it right with their 1 child policy.

Something others could do too, having a family is a lifelong commitment, financially as much as the emotional/social side
 
As much as I'm not a fan over the way they control their citizens lives these days, China at least got it right with their 1 child policy.

Something others could do too, having a family is a lifelong commitment, financially as much as the emotional/social side

With so much readily available information, you came to that conclusion? :drunk:

 
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As much as I'm not a fan over the way they control their citizens lives these days, China at least got it right with their 1 child policy.

Something others could do too, having a family is a lifelong commitment, financially as much as the emotional/social side
I hope for a world in which everyone could have children as a part of their life cycle.

Not going to happen with the left wing extremists out there.
 

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As much as I'm not a fan over the way they control their citizens lives these days, China at least got it right with their 1 child policy.

Something others could do too, having a family is a lifelong commitment, financially as much as the emotional/social side


Something that Western Culture could have a long hard look at.

We treat our elderly like utter shit and could learn a lot from other cultures.
 
I hope for a world in which everyone could have children as a part of their life cycle.
My POV is I wouldn't want to have kids born into relative poverty and see them struggle themselves

But yes, you would like to see people have children and bring them up in the right way, in the right stable family environment
Not going to happen with the left wing extremists out there.
Are we talking about the idiot leftie millennials who say they won't have kids cos of climate change and all this other ideological shit?

I wouldn't worry about that deluded lot
 

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