"Innapropriate"

[Richmondfan#1]

You forgot a pretty important word. 'Can'.

Drugs CAN have detrimental effects.

Would also disagree about the no benefits thing.

You know, up until I was 16/17, I had pretty much the same opinion as you. But then I got off my arse and learned more about drugs instead of just accepting the "drugs are bad, mmmkay" attitude that high school teachers try to force down your throat. Yes, I know, kids need to be educated about drugs, and yes, they need to know that drugs are dangerous. But wouldn't it be a ****ing revolution if a school would actually teach REAL stuff about drugs, rather than just the standard "don't touch drugs, all drugs WILL kill you" sort of line which so many people then carry through life in complete ignorance.

Amen sistah.

 

[Saint Ludacris]

You forgot a pretty important word. 'Can'.

Drugs CAN have detrimental effects.

Would also disagree about the no benefits thing.

You know, up until I was 16/17, I had pretty much the same opinion as you. But then I got off my arse and learned more about drugs instead of just accepting the "drugs are bad, mmmkay" attitude that high school teachers try to force down your throat. Yes, I know, kids need to be educated about drugs, and yes, they need to know that drugs are dangerous. But wouldn't it be a ****ing revolution if a school would actually teach REAL stuff about drugs, rather than just the standard "don't touch drugs, all drugs WILL kill you" sort of line which so many people then carry through life in complete ignorance.

Number one reason why my kid isn't going to school or will be going to a Rudolf Steiner. To be taught the real meaning of life.

 

[PAFC2004]

You forgot a pretty important word. 'Can'.

Drugs CAN have detrimental effects.

Would also disagree about the no benefits thing.

You know, up until I was 16/17, I had pretty much the same opinion as you. But then I got off my arse and learned more about drugs instead of just accepting the "drugs are bad, mmmkay" attitude that high school teachers try to force down your throat. Yes, I know, kids need to be educated about drugs, and yes, they need to know that drugs are dangerous. But wouldn't it be a ****ing revolution if a school would actually teach REAL stuff about drugs, rather than just the standard "don't touch drugs, all drugs WILL kill you" sort of line which so many people then carry through life in complete ignorance.

I have learnt a fair bit also. Most drugs CAN have a detrimental effect... there is always that risk, so why take that risk? If someone can't lead a happy life without substance abuse, they should see someone.

Learning more about drugs has not lead me to believe they are in any way acceptable however. I still have a strong belief against them, as recreational drugs are pointless.

 

[Saint Ludacris]

You are missing the point again. My christian beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with my view on drugs.
You still haven't come up with any reason as to why drugs are in any way a good thing. Put simply, they screw you up. Why the hell bother with them?

Medical Treatment.

Theres one. ******** off.

 

[Portmanteau]

I wouldn't think 'inappropriate' as much as 'not necessary'.

Get over it.

 

[PAFC2004]

Recreational drugs... and if you can't aruge without telling someone where to go, don't bother posting.
Recreational drugs pose too many risks. There are some "drugs" that are used in medical treatment, but many years of research goes in to ensure these have more of a positive effect than a negative one.

 

[Saint Ludacris]

I wouldn't think 'inappropriate' as much as 'not necessary'.

Get over it.

Oh I am now, found something much more entertaining I don't give a hoot now.

 

[Saint Ludacris]

Recreational drugs... and if you can't aruge without telling someone where to go, don't bother posting.
Recreational drugs pose too many risks. There are some "drugs" that are used in medical treatment, but many years of research goes in to ensure these have more of a positive effect than a negative one.

Recerational drugs are more safe then drinking and getting smashed. The reason why the risk is so high is cause this government doesn't want to do an easy fix and come up with a pill database.

There is no harm in any rec pills or drugs when you know what your taking... It is the same as drinking.

 

[Captain Sensible]

Can the moderator who deleted the topic please explain how those posts were 'innapropriate'?

Thanks
St Louie

It was me. The threads were reported, I thought they wre inappropriate because they breached the terms of use, so they went. Simple really.

 

[PAFC2004]

Recerational drugs are more safe then drinking and getting smashed. The reason why the risk is so high is cause this government doesn't want to do an easy fix and come up with a pill database.

There is no harm in any rec pills or drugs when you know what your taking... It is the same as drinking.

That is the biggest load of tripe I have heard. You could take "good stuff", be it pure MDMA, or other type of rec drug, but the pure stuff is just as bad as the stuff they lace it with.
It causes you to "overheat" in some cases, and your liver doesn't cope too well either.
You are very naive to say there is no harm in it if you know what you are taking. By that logic, you could take rat poison, but because you know what you are taking, it's all good...
Famous last words...

 

[Saint Ludacris]

It was me. The threads were reported, I thought they wre inappropriate because they breached the terms of use, so they went. Simple really.

Ok Localyokel... Thank You.

Understandable. Back to the other subject now....

 

[BomberGal]

I have learnt a fair bit also. Most drugs CAN have a detrimental effect... there is always that risk, so why take that risk? If someone can't lead a happy life without substance abuse, they should see someone.

Learning more about drugs has not lead me to believe they are in any way acceptable however. I still have a strong belief against them, as recreational drugs are pointless.

OK. So are you aware that, say, it's just about impossible to overdose on LSD - the amount required is so huge that doctors etc really don't bother checking for it? (IIRC, the amount required is about 200 times more than what's taken. Will have to look it up.) Do you know that ecstasy deaths are more often due to over-hydration problems than because of an overdose (not saying that ODs on E don't happen)? Do you know that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes and alcohol? There is such a thing as responsible use.

What's this about 'risk'? I know it's a cliche argument, but every time you drive a car, or fly in a plane, or hell, even take prescription medicine, you are taking a risk with your life. How boring would it be if we all sat around wrapped in cotton wool? I've never tried anything (illegal) other than pot, but there are a couple of things I'm interested in trying. It doesn't make me a bad or irresponsible person.

The difference between illegal and legal drugs is sometimes just that - the law. I know usage may need to be moderated, but who's to decide what goes into an individual's body? Some recreational drugs would have less effect on the human body than medicinal drugs. And remember - legal drugs are drugs too, it's a distinction by law.

 

[dave_4813]

Ok Localyokel... Thank You.

Understandable. Back to the other subject now....

So who is shooting up tonight? (Just joking)

 

[Captain Sensible]

Ok Localyokel... Thank You.

Understandable. Back to the other subject now....

Not a problem. Normal sevice has now been resumed.

 

[Saint Ludacris]

That is the biggest load of tripe I have heard. You could take "good stuff", be it pure MDMA, or other type of rec drug, but the pure stuff is just as bad as the stuff they lace it with.
It causes you to "overheat" in some cases, and your liver doesn't cope too well either.
You are very naive to say there is no harm in it if you know what you are taking. By that logic, you could take rat poison, but because you know what you are taking, it's all good...
Famous last words...

Get real. Your pretty ignorant if you think Im going to go and take rat poison. Go here Pafc2004 you post what you just posted then. http://www.bluelight.nu/ In the Australian Discussion Board. If you really believe what in what your saying. I dare to you to have a look if you seriously believe it.

I keep up on what drugs are going around... What to take not what to take.

 

[PAFC2004]

OK. So are you aware that, say, it's near impossible to overdose on LSD - the amount required is so huge that doctors etc really don't bother checking for it? Do you know that ecstasy deaths are more often due to over-hydration problems than because of an overdose (not saying that ODs on E don't happen)? Do you know that marijuana is less dangerous than cigarettes and alcohol? There is such a thing as responsible use.

What's this about 'risk'? I know it's a cliche argument, but every time you drive a car, or fly in a plane, or hell, even take prescription medicine, you are taking a risk with your life. How boring would it be if we all sat around wrapped in cotton wool? I've never tried anything (illegal) other than pot, but there are a couple of things I'm interested in trying.

The difference between illegal and legal drugs is sometimes just that - the law. I know usage may need to be moderated, but who's to decide what goes into an individual's body? Some recreational drugs would have less effect on the human body than medicinal drugs. And remember - legal drugs are drugs too, it's a distinction by law.

As far as driving a car of flying, these are things that are necessary, and have a benficial outcome. What benefit do you gain from taking drugs? Marijuana is not less dangerous. It contains 4 times the tar of than tobacco in the same quantity.
There is no need to do these things. Why alter your mind when it is perfectly fine the way it is? There are these risks, and even if you don't die from taking such things, many drugs do have a cummulative detrimental effect on the body.

I just don't see the point.

 

[PAFC2004]

Get real. Your pretty ignorant if you think Im going to go and take rat poison. Go here Pafc2004 you post what you just posted then. http://www.bluelight.nu/ In the Australian Discussion Board. If you really believe what in what your saying. I dare to you to have a look if you seriously believe it.

I keep up on what drugs are going around... What to take not what to take.

I never said you were going to take rat poison, I was making a point.
You can keep up on these things, but no matter how "good" the product is, chances are it will still have a detrimental effect on your body, however minor it is. There is no such thing as a good quality rec drug.

 

[Swarbs]

aah old bluelight.....funny site with all the tweakers

 

[Saint Ludacris]

As far as driving a car of flying, these are things that are necessary, and have a benficial outcome. What benefit do you gain from taking drugs? Marijuana is not less dangerous. It contains 4 times the tar of than tobacco in the same quantity.
There is no need to do these things. Why alter your mind when it is perfectly fine the way it is? There are these risks, and even if you don't die from taking such things, many drugs to have a cummulative detrimental effect on the body.

I just don't see the point.

How about you present some facts instead of "Oh I believe" stuff? Like the rest of us have.

Why don't we rephrase the question What benefits do you get from drinking Liquor?

 

[Richmondfan#1]

The difference between illegal and legal drugs is sometimes just that - the law.

Uhm it's always that .

But anyway, who cares really. It's each individual's choice.

 

[PAFC2004]

How about you present some facts instead of "Oh I believe" stuff? Like the rest of us have.

Why don't we rephrase the question What benefits do you get from drinking Liquor?

What facts have you put forward?!
Liquor has nothing to do with this whatsoever. You take a pill... what enjoyment do you get out of that? I like the taste of beer etc, and because of that, I do drink. I don't drink because I want it to alter my mind or anything.
I agree alcohol can be extemely harmful, but unlike most rec drugs, it is fine in moderation.

 

[Saint Ludacris]

I never said you were going to take rat poison, I was making a point.
You can keep up on these things, but no matter how "good" the product is, chances are it will still have a detrimental effect on your body, however minor it is. There is no such thing as a good quality rec drug.

You know what... Im going to post this exactly on Bluelight and see what they say seeing you won't Ill post it on here. I would be interested in the replies you would get from them and that you would get back.

Cause I reckon they would ******** on you.

 

[Saint Ludacris]

What facts have you put forward?!
Liquor has nothing to do with this whatsoever. You take a pill... what enjoyment do you get out of that? I like the taste of beer etc, and because of that, I do drink. I don't drink because I want it to alter my mind or anything.
I agree alcohol can be extemely harmful, but unlike most rec drugs, it is fine in moderation.

Well I like the taste of speed whats the difference?

 

[PAFC2004]

Who the hell cares what they think?
What do they have to do with this discussion?

 

[PAFC2004]

Well I like the taste of speed whats the difference?

Grow up.
Speed screws with your mind.. look what it does to people.
If you think that is a good thing, I suggest you cut your usage.