Inside Football - Drafting in July

[Jordie_tackles]

Seems to me that the draft works like:

Whitfield - number 1 pick - GWS (finishing 18th).

Then there are about 7-9 players that could really fall in any order. For example, there doesn't seem much 'in it' between Viney and Toumpas, etc. All will depend on what Gold Coast feel they need more, there is no way they will bid on Viney, just to make Melbourne use their F/S pick. If they bid on Viney, it will be because they rate him the best inside mid in the draft, and want him on their list for that reason.

FWIW, I think they will nominate Viney. As far as I can see, GC lack a true inside mid to compliment their nice selection of outside ball users in their draft age bracket. Ablett, Swallow, Prestia and O'Meara (whilst being elite talents) are not inside mids, the only true IM they have is Rischitelli, who is currently 26.

The only other player I see Gold Coast taking instead of Viney is Toumpas.

Interesting to read everyone's views though - hell if I was a Melb fan and we finished 16th, I would be hoping that GWS take Grundy, then GC nominate Viney!!!

They are all capable of getting there own contested ball imo, i thought Prestia was more an inside type rather than outside if anything? and Ablett Swallow and O'Meara are just super elite players who can play anywhere in the midfield. Selling them all short by saying Rischa is GC only true inside player

 

[manny100]

Seems to me that the draft works like:

Whitfield - number 1 pick - GWS (finishing 18th).

Then there are about 7-9 players that could really fall in any order. For example, there doesn't seem much 'in it' between Viney and Toumpas, etc. All will depend on what Gold Coast feel they need more, there is no way they will bid on Viney, just to make Melbourne use their F/S pick. If they bid on Viney, it will be because they rate him the best inside mid in the draft, and want him on their list for that reason.

FWIW, I think they will nominate Viney. As far as I can see, GC lack a true inside mid to compliment their nice selection of outside ball users in their draft age bracket. Ablett, Swallow, Prestia and O'Meara (whilst being elite talents) are not inside mids, the only true IM they have is Rischitelli, who is currently 26.

The only other player I see Gold Coast taking instead of Viney is Toumpas.

Interesting to read everyone's views though - hell if I was a Melb fan and we finished 16th, I would be hoping that GWS take Grundy, then GC nominate Viney!!!

Its a big call for either GWS or GC to nominate JV. He would need to be clear no.1 or 2. Mathews said earlier this year that the Lions had bad luck in the Murphy draft as he was a very clear no.1 that draft and Carlton had no problems committing to him at NO1.Mathews said that if there had been 2 or 3 players roughly equal then Carlton would not have been willing to committ and he would have landed at the Lions.
The point here is that if JV is nominated its because he is a clear no1 or 2 then at 3 the Dees get a bargain.
The other issue is that it is a real risk for GWS, GC and the Dees to burn/use a top 3 pick before trade month and the mini draft. Cannot take advantage of any opportunities that arise or circumstances change.
If GC nominate JV and he is not a clear top 3 then the Dees will see this as a great opportunity to let him pass and effectively get picks 2 and 3.What a win! GWS will be desperate to get one of the Dees picks through the mini draft so i would expect that Martin or Hogan would be on the table with some loose change back for the Dees - mid/late first round depending on how desperate GWS are.
Last year GC had nothing to lose giving away pick 4 - there were no immediate performance demands by supporters like there are with the established clubs. Adelaide had a good list that just had a bad year under coach who probably had been there to long.
I know that Martin and Hogan are 'potential'guns but so are a number of kids at the pointy end of this years draft. The point i make here is that GWS might not do as well with the mini this year.
If GC use their first pick on JV then that will be also good for the WB's as they have that extra pick as well. Can't see Port using their first pick for the mini as they will be hoping Toumpas or Grundy slip though.

 

[Omega Blue]

just curious, lets say that gcs bid on viney at the f/s bidding, do melbourne have to counter bid on the spot or can they wait to see how the draft pans out first?
reasons because if they knew that gws would take grundy then they wouldn't bid but if gws takes whitfield then they would bid.

 

[Toadvine]

just curious, lets say that gcs bid on viney at the f/s bidding, do melbourne have to counter bid on the spot or can they wait to see how the draft pans out first?
reasons because if they knew that gws would take grundy then they wouldn't bid but if gws takes whitfield then they would bid.

They have to counter bid on the spot. Which is the first day of the trading period.

 

[Omega Blue]

They have to counter bid on the spot. Which is the first day of the trading period.

then melbourne would need to proceed as tho whitfield wasn't on the table

 

[THE_GUN]

Seeing as how melbourne have had Viney at their club for 12 months and have an agreement in place they should be forced to take him with their 1st pick - as thats where he was when they commited to the agreement.

Makes a mockery of the system if they commit then go back on their agreement !

 

[Omega Blue]

Seeing as how melbourne have had Viney at their club for 12 months and have an agreement in place they should be forced to take him with their 1st pick - as thats where he was when they commited to the agreement.

Makes a mockery of the system if they commit then go back on their agreement !

agreed i just can't see melbourne not honoring that agreement, its not about getting the best player to melbourne its about melbourne maintaining integrity.

 

[UpTheGuts]

Link to the list no longer works. Anyone able to list them here?

 

[Delediodamage]

Does anyone know when the '2012 draft' issue comes out? The one last year was a great read

 

[superfreak]

1. Gold Coast
Lachie Whitfield
(Dandenong Stingrays)
Ht: 184cm. Wt: 74kg. Position: midfield/forward.
Class act. Does it all well and with minimal fuss.

2. GWS GIANTS
Brodie Grundy (Sturt)
Ht: 202cm. Wt: 100kg. Position: ruck.
The best ruck prospect since Nic Naitanui. Athletic and has a bit of “mongrel” about him.

3. Melbourne
JimmyToumpas
(Woodville-West Torrens)
Ht: 183cm. Wt: 77kg. Position: midfield.
A Rolls-Royce in the SA midfield. Oozes class and leadership.

4. Melbourne ^
Lachlan Plowman
(Calder Cannons)
Ht: 193cm. Wt: 86kg. Position: defender.
Missed the championships through injury but is the best rebounding key defender.

5. Port Adelaide
Troy Menzel (Central District)
Ht: 186cm. Wt: 77kg. Position: midfield/forward.
Brother of Dan. Smart midfielder who knows where the goals are. Coming off LARS surgery.

6. Western Bulldogs
Josh Simpson (East Fremantle)
Ht: 183cm. Wt: 72kg. Position: midfield.
Silky skilled midfielder rated as a top three pick by some recruiters. Good inside and out.

7. Western Bulldogs ^^
Jake Stringer
(Bendigo Pioneers)
Ht: 191cm. Wt: 91kg. Position: midfield/forward.
Broke his leg last season and still working back to fitness. Super talent though.

8. Brisbane Lions
Dayle Garlett
(Swan Districts)
Ht: 181cm. Wt: 75kg. Position: midfield.
Smooth, left-footed outside midfielder who can play up forward.


9. Fremantle
Mason Shaw
(South Fremantle)
Ht: 198cm. Wt: 92kg. Position: forward/ruck.
Only a fair carnival but has kicked plenty of goals in the WAFL colts.

10. North Melbourne
Jonathan O’Rourke
(Calder Cannons)
Ht: 183cm. Wt: 75kg. Position: midfield.
Inside ball winner who is tough and a smart finisher. Missed most of 2011 with injury.

11. Richmond
Ben Kennedy (Glenelg)
Ht: 174cm. Wt: 76kg. Position: midfield.
Only small but a booming left footer with great pace.

12. Carlton
Oliver Wines
(Bendigo Pioneers)
Ht: 185cm. Wt: 83kg. Position: midfield.
Big bodied midfielder who had a great carnival. A perfect fit for an undersized Blues midfield.
13. Melbourne ^^^
SamMayes
(North Adelaide)
Ht: 187cm. Wt: 78kg. Position: midfield/forward.
Moved into the midfield this year and has flourished. Great athlete.

14. St Kilda
Tanner Smith
(North Ballarat Rebels)
Ht: 194cm. Wt: 83kg. Position: defender.
Lock-down key defender with good closing speed. Another good fit.

15. Geelong Cats
Matthew Haynes
(Northern Knights)
Ht: 189cm. Wt: 76kg. Position: midfield.
Line-breaker with blinding pace. Adds run to a slowing midfield.

16. Essendon
Joe Daniher
(Calder Cannons) – father/son
Ht: 201cm. Wt: 89kg. Position: forward/ruck.
Top three talent. Great mark and long left foot kick.

17. Hawthorn
Nick Vlastuin
(Northern Knights)
Ht: 187cm. Wt: 83kg. Position: midfield.
Good both inside and out and a smart ball user – qualities the Hawks love.

18. Collingwood
Laine Wilkins (Peel Thunder)
Ht: 189cm. Wt: 78kg. Position: midfield/forward.
Athletic type who has a burst of speed and nice left boot.

19. Adelaide
Tom Clurey
(Murray Bushrangers)
Ht: 193cm. Wt: 86kg. Position: defender.
Elite kick on both sides; ran a 15 beep test, can play tall and small.

20. GWS GIANTS #
Jackson MacRae (Oakleigh Chargers)
Ht: 188cm. Wt: 75kg. Position: midfield/forward.
Smart left footer who can play midfield and forward. Has a knack of kicking goals.

21. West Coast
SamLOWRIE(South Fremantle)
Ht: 187cm. Wt: 80kg. Position: midfield.
Prototypical size for a modern midfielder. Can win own ball and is a good runner.

22. Sydney Swans
Kristian Jaksch
(Oakleigh Chargers)
Ht: 194cm. Wt: 85kg. Position: forward.
Can play at both ends but looks at home up forward.

23. Brisbane Lions ##
Liam McBEAN (Calder Cannons)
Ht: 201cm. Wt: 83kg. Position: defender/forward.
Great kick on both sides, and extremely athletic. Transitioned to defence recently to good effect.

Compensation Picks
^ Round 1 selection (compensation for the loss of Tom Scully).
^^ Round 1 selection (compensation for the loss of Callan Ward).
^^^ Mid Round 1 selection (compensation for the loss of Tom Scully).
# Round 1 selection (received from Adelaide in a trade, after compensation for the loss of Phil Davis).
## End Round 1 selection (compensation for the loss of Michael Rischitelli).


Draft issue comes out on October 31st

 

[Igloo]

Our picks are before Port Adelaide's and no Mayes in the first round?

 

[blueiris]

Our picks are before Port Adelaide's and no Mayes in the first round?

this is the draft from AFL Insders point of view and was after the Under 18 Championships mate so things would have changed since then