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A poster has been on Demonland claiming to have inside knowledge about the Powell situation, and I for one believe his claims. The following is his post which is a must read. I sure hope Powelly stays..... (keep in mind he's talking about members from Demonland in this post and not members from BF)

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I have never before engaged in this sort of practice , but feel I must speak up about some of the gross untruths that have been appearing on this site in reference to Stephen Powell.

At the moment , I am thoroughly disgusted to be a MFC member , I am angry at the club and I am appalled that this site and by most of it's contributors . Some of you appear to be nasty ,ill -informed , unintelligent buffoons , who think nothing of ruthlessly attacking someone without knowing all the facts , and without them having the opportunity to refute your claims.

I have been a friend of the Powell family for over 14 years , a MFC supporter for 23 years and a member for at least most of that time. Stephen is an intelligent , easygoing , well presented young man who comes from a well respected and regarded family.

When Stephen joined Melbourne in late '99 , he was thrilled as were his family , he had high hopes of playing 100 + games for the club and finishing his career there, he was tote as "the new Todd Viney " , tough , hard and oncompromising , a tag he has well and truly lived up to . Like Todd he has become much lovedand respected by the players and thinks of the MFC as his home.

What upsets me , and I know his family , partner and fellow friends are the gross untruths circulating , on sites such as this , and without Stephen's , his families or partners knowledge I feel I must set the record straight. , as he is being wrongly portryaed and persecuted.

Stephen had a stellar 2000 , a year in which for the most part he played with a broken bone in his hand and OP , the later being so bad by 3/4 through the year , that he required a needle every day just to walk around and was restricted to light to training . In the final series , as well as the the Grand Final , Stephen was undoubtably our best player -- he played under extreme circumstances as the club were desperate to have him on the field , such was his influence.

At the end of the season , Stephen underwent a massive operation , which left for 5 months unable to walk more than 10 metres , things were so bad , that his patrner and his family were forced to scale back their work commitments to care for him . Then in April 2001 , his partner was horrifically injured in a car accident , forcing of work for 12 months with severe neck and spinal injures , she was bedridden as was Stephen , who struggled to care for them both , as well as tending to his own recovery

During this period , NOT ONCE did a MFC official visit their home , enquire with the family if they could assist , nor did the club Player Welfare Manager offer any assistance. When it became clear he would not play that year , he offered to take a paycut to assist the club , which I believe they took him up on

On the long road to recovery , Stephen sought out many specialist and alternative treatments , at HIS OWN COST , i believe Danny Corcoran himself has ackowledged publicly that Stephen "cured himself " , this is totally accurate and he has been totally free from OP for the past 12 months.

I find it amusing to have read on your site that stephen's late season fade out is due to the OP re-occuring ----- what rubbish !!!!! Stephen was not fit ALL year due to not doing a pre-seaon , the club felt it important to have him on the field , even if it was for only 15 minutes per quatrer, regardless of his fitness . Stephen would have been just as happy to play 12 games this year , but the club wanted him out there. The club , on review of his year , are also very pleased with his contribution , they know once fit he will be back to year 2000 form.

Another absurb post I have read is that the club were "angered" by his suspensions , if this were the case don't you think they would have fined or dropped him ? He also was never asked to apologize to the playing group , nor was he reprimanded for these indecretions , again another bit of unsubstantiated innuendo that has been levelled at his character !!!!!!

The current situation , as it stands , is that Stephen is not attending training because as an uncontracted player he is also uninsured --- doesn't take a genuis to work out why he is reluctant to risk training . The club totally understand and are fine with it.

In regards to his leaving the club, yes , it is a big possibility ., and NO it is not entirely to do with money.

At the end of the season , Stephen and his mangement were told by Danny Corcoran that the club were focued on YZE and TJ , and that he wasn't a priority at that point . Stephen understood this , their signings were paramount and he realized that they are needed for us to win a flag . So he sat back and waited ........ and waited , until Trade Week was upon him and the club had not contacted him or his manager . He was told that the club very much wanted him to stay , that he wasn't part of their trade plans , and that even if he wanted to , they wouldn't trade him . Trade week went Woey went for salry cap relief and so the club could re- sign the 7 uncontracted player . But with that also came Heffernen , on over $250k per year , and still no sign of a contract for Stephen , that hadn't even asked him what he was wanting , 6 weeks had now passed and other than 2 phone calls , he had had no other contact with the club.

The day before pre-season training he was presented with a contract via a fax , a one year NON NEGIOTABLE contract , that was basically 40% less than his current one , which was , despite reports to the contary on your site , a very modest salary ............ divide Woey's contract by a third and you may have some perspectative .

What the issue is here , is that Stephen feels that the club have deliberately stalled negoiations , and have backed him into a corner and now think they can stand over him They waited until tade week was over , they have compromised and decieved him, and have created a situation where he distrusts them and feels they have dealt with .unfairly , when all along he was fair and considerate to them.

Although the players have chosen to take a paycut , Stephen nor the other uncontracted players will see a cent of that money , due to severe mismangement and buggling , this maony will be instead used to offset cap problems, and in 12 months time when the club has 15 senoirs players out of contract , do you think Stephen is going to feel safe or secure that the club will act honourably after this ? At the momnet they can offer him no stability , security or show him any respect . The club are banking on the fact that all the clubs have finalized their lists and negoiations , and that Stephen will just cop it . Sadly , the reality is that Stephen will probably end up elsewhere, on a little less money , but with someone who will secure him for two years.

I ask you all , would you accept that sort of behavoiur from your employer , or would you also have serious thoughts of leaving ?

So , please think about what you write , check your facts , don't just shoot off at the mouth , because Stephen is the victim of a badly managed club , he is the one who is being compromised and bullyed ------ just get off his back !!!!
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i couldn't be bothered reading the whole article thingy, but i got the jist. i spoke to a good friend of powelly's brother yesterday who said he's had a look up in sydney (partner living up there or something) and said he could handle living up there.... but also wanted to stay at melbourne if he was treated right or sumthing....
it's prolly just rumours, but just letting you'se know wat i heard....
 
Originally posted by Dee
yeah he is the 3rd person on there to say that they know Powell personally, but he is only the first one to actually say stuff like this. i really dont know what to believe.
I'm always sceptical if someone claims to know someone else, because most of the time it's crap. The amount of detail this person went into convinved me that he/she may in fact know Powell, or at least know more about the situation than we do.
 

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He will stay.

Sounds as though we have treated him pretty poorly, which is a damn shame, as I thought we were better than that.
 
If that's true (which it sounds like it is to me) then that is quite sad. However there are always two sides to a story and I'm sure that the MFC wouldn't have been that harsh on a player like Powell.

MFC should sign him up for 2 years on a performance based contract. i.e give him 200k or whatever a year if he plays, but if he's injured, cut that back a little to ease the stress on the club.
Some of you may not like the sound of that but it is reasonable, given his state of fitness.

Let's hope he stays, for everyones sake.

P.S. That bloke said "take woewodins salary, divide it by a third and you get some perspective on powells salary"

Do that sum on a calculator. 450,000/.33333 = $1.3million.

Do you think he meant powell is getting 1/3 of what woey got??
:D
Sorry for being picky :p
 
Originally posted by Ms.Storm
This sounds like a very genuine and authentic person who actually knows the facts about Powelly and the MFC....if this is the case, the football club should be ashamed of themselves.

We need Joe back.......no more said:(

Joe? The President doesn't do everything at a club! Sure, they will know about it, but there are Chariman of Selectors, and Trade 'experts' who handle such matters.

On the Powelly matter, yes it is saddening the way the club has handled the situation, but when do you draw the line and let the player look after themselves>? Did Powell explain his situation to the club? (Not necessarily asking for assistance, but just letting them know the circumstances). (Remember when we looked after a certain player called Far***?)

There are a lot of things that are unexplained, and when one person (who himself only knows one side fo the story) gets on his soapbox, people shouldn't be too quick to judge.

I have never been on the Demonland baords, but if what this guy is saying they must have really got stuck into Powell! I'm glad we haven't.

Let's hope it gets reolved quickly and fairly.
 
Originally posted by Ms.Storm
This sounds like a very genuine and authentic person who actually knows the facts about Powelly and the MFC....if this is the case, the football club should be ashamed of themselves.

We need Joe back.......no more said:(

Sorry Ms. Storm, but Joe Gutnik has absolutely nothing to do with that side of football. I know you want to get that point across all the time, but here it has no reference what so ever.
 
Originally posted by CowboyFromHell


Sorry Ms. Storm, but Joe Gutnik has absolutely nothing to do with that side of football. I know you want to get that point across all the time, but here it has no reference what so ever.

Joe has nothing to do with the football club anymore. dont know why there r so many people out there who think he should come back and if he did everything will be ok. cos it wont be.
 
Originally posted by Dee


Joe has nothing to do with the football club anymore. dont know why there r so many people out there who think he should come back and if he did everything will be ok. cos it wont be.

Exactly. We might be a tad better off in the money department as he would always help us out a bit, but it had nothing to do with players staying or leaving.

I reckon Szondy is doing a good job anyway, we have to give the guy some credit!
 
Originally posted by Dee
yeah he is the 3rd person on there to say that they know Powell personally, but he is only the first one to actually say stuff like this. i really dont know what to believe.

yep, i agree... ive decided to not listen to any thing, and wait to see what happeneds.
 
In todays Sun, it said that we are standing firm with our offer to Powell, and that if he doesn't like it, he can leave, and we will look to the pre-season draft.

I like the fact we are standing firm this time around instead of just dishing out more money, but I'd also like to see Powell there in 2003!
 

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Originally posted by Dee


Joe has nothing to do with the football club anymore. dont know why there r so many people out there who think he should come back and if he did everything will be ok. cos it wont be.

By saying "I want Joe back" it was meant as a terminology to get things right and if he was there, perhaps this stuff up had not happened.

Having said the above, I would still love him back at the club......

AND I don't think Szondy is doing a great job at all....my opinion.....I just don;t like him at all.....sorry, but he is a solemn boring person with no personality and he actually said that he would show that the club would be posting profits when he was President......now didn't we make losses the last 2 years?.
 
Originally posted by Ms.Storm


By saying "I want Joe back" it was meant as a terminology to get things right and if he was there, perhaps this stuff up had not happened.

Having said the above, I would still love him back at the club......

AND I don't think Szondy is doing a great job at all....my opinion.....I just don;t like him at all.....sorry, but he is a solemn boring person with no personality and he actually said that he would show that the club would be posting profits when he was President......now didn't we make losses the last 2 years?.

In all fairness to Szondy, last year wasn't his fault at all. Even though you love Joe, you should be able to see that.

On the contrary, I believe Szondy is doing a good job. Whilst figures were down this year (more so due to a bad fixture and losses in business ventures from the PAST!), he has been able to get us a great fixture next year, and with some of the material I have seen, the club is really looking forward to the future, and I can't help but be excited.

You just don't like him cos he ousted Joe.
 
Powell didn't train yesterday and his name was also missing from the magnetic board the club had set up for player groups at pre-season training.

I get the feeling we will lose Stephen Powell. IMO, his pace seemed to disappear and I reckon he even struggled to get penetration on his kicks late in the season.

He is a risk, and I wouldn't be shattered if the club lost him. A player is only worth what the club is prepared to pay, and if another club is prepared to pay more then good luck to them, him and his manager.
 
Originally posted by footyman
Powell didn't train yesterday and his name was also missing from the magnetic board the club had set up for player groups at pre-season training.

I get the feeling we will lose Stephen Powell. IMO, his pace seemed to disappear and I reckon he even struggled to get penetration on his kicks late in the season.

He is a risk, and I wouldn't be shattered if the club lost him. A player is only worth what the club is prepared to pay, and if another club is prepared to pay more then good luck to them, him and his manager.

I agree with the penetration, but my feeling is that he is more important than what Woewodin was. He is a hard nut, and we don't have many of them to be honest. I believe we really do need to keep him on our list.

Heck, we concentrated more on signing bloody Robbo more than we did Powell, and that's a mistake.
 

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