Discussion International Rules

[Mr Eagle]

I see that this topic got a very brief mention in the New Jumpers thread, but I'd like to complain some more...

Snore.

For a strip that is meant to be worn by the AA side, this is a pretty damn uninspired effort. Certainly not something worthy of going straight to anyone's pool room. It strikes me as very odd that a sport steeped in not dicking around with iconic jumpers is more than happy to send a national team out in Template Du Jour.

I also really wish they would limit themselves to a small sponsor on the right breast. Yeah, I know money talks, but if prohibiting the clubs from doing it can be justified, surely the same logic should be applied here?

Time to get your act together on this, AFL.

/complaint

 

[El_Scorcho]

Agree totally. It looks like a training jumper.

I don't mind a different strip every year but it would be nice if it wasn't so phoned in.

 

[Bryce_Jersey17]

I saw a clip on Facebook and genuinely thought it was a friendly Australia vs junior club type thing. What they're wearing looks like a training jersey

 

[Gibbsy]

The little gradient things on the bottom corner and the shorts are uninspired. It's like ISC decided to put them there just so the kit wouldn't be so terribly plain.

This one is quite clearly my favourite from the 'modern era' of the IRS.

 

[akkaps]

The gradient looked good on the jersey, it was the blocks of yellow that pissed me off.

It was also a good chance to see the new ISC collar for next year. It looks pretty good.

 

[El_Scorcho]

The little gradient things on the bottom corner and the shorts are uninspired. It's like ISC decided to put them there just so the kit wouldn't be so terribly plain.

This one is quite clearly my favourite from the 'modern era' of the IRS.

This basic design could be toyed around with every year. Completely leaving the green out is a huge mistake, because it stops looking like an Australian kit.

IMO we should go gold based with green and navy trim. The contrast would be fine and you'd be able to make it look more Aussie

 

[HTT]

Green and gold all the way - if golds the base there'll be no clash

 

[SJ]

Green and gold all the way - if golds the base there'll be no clash

Considering Ireland also wears green and gold that may be a bit of a stretch.

Navy and gold have a long history of use as Australia's national colours too.

 

[HTT]

Considering Ireland also wears green and gold that may be a bit of a stretch.

Navy and gold have a long history of use as Australia's national colours too.

They have used gold in the past, but the last two years it has been different shades of green. They control the rules so we can at least control the colours, surely.

 

[alzy11]

They have used gold in the past, but the last two years it has been different shades of green. They control the rules so we can at least control the colours, surely.

How exactly do they control the rules?

 

[Fizzler]

How exactly do they control the rules?

International rules is very leaned towards Gaelic. The only difference is that there is a couple more posts and different scoring.

 

[HTT]

How exactly do they control the rules?

This is gonna be controversial, but IMO the rules are severely weighted in their favour. From the ball to the goal keeper to the field shape itself, we at least maintained the physicality, but then 2006 happened. It can be argued that the Irish have to go against their instincts, but so do we, as well as an entirely different skill set.
In short, we do pretty well to even stay in the contest.

Rant complete

 

[akkaps]

International rules is very leaned towards Gaelic. The only difference is that there is a couple more posts and different scoring.

And tackling. You can't tackle in Gaelic.

 

[HTT]

And tackling. You can't tackle in Gaelic.

The tackling is very light in international rules

 

[alzy11]

This is gonna be controversial, but IMO the rules are severely weighted in their favour. From the ball to the goal keeper to the field shape itself, we at least maintained the physicality, but then 2006 happened. It can be argued that the Irish have to go against their instincts, but so do we, as well as an entirely different skill set.
In short, we do pretty well to even stay in the contest.

Rant complete

I'd say it's a fairly even compromise, given tackling is completely foreign to them and a big part of IRS, just as the round ball is to us. I think it's pretty balanced.

Nonetheless, the GAA and the AFL have an equal say in the rules, so I wouldn't say they 'control' the rules.

 

[Silent Alarm]

I don't really see an issue with this. I saw more of an issue with this board not having a thread for the new top!

Really, the International Rules aren't meaningful enough to constitute a singular jumper. It's not like State of Origin where you're playing for something that mattered and had attention, and where the colours and design was easily and obviously tied to a place – and you needed that: the Big V and South Aussie strips are so classic, they're a sense of achievement in finally getting to wear one. Western Australia should be in that sentence too, but they obviously ditched the perfect sash-and-state design for the swan (which is by no means terrible, it's just a little inferior).

I personally always hated the early 2000s design. It just looked cheap. Something about the outline of the Vs (and later the sash) just seemed flat. I don't know, nothing about it really worked for me, but at the same time, it's still the only design that screams 'Australian International Rules' to me. Maybe that's due to its longevity.

And although navy isn't really a sporting colour for us, at least there is some sort of continuity with the colours.

In international soccer, which means far more than the hybrid ever will, you have nations chopping and changing kits a lot more. Even countries as old and successful as Spain, France, and Holland. I mean seriously:

These guys constantly change – every single thing does! Sometimes they have blue shorts with red socks. Sometimes blue socks too. Sometimes it's all red. Then sometimes the red is bright and otherwise it's so dark it resembles Russia. And then the third colour can be obvious yellow or a genuine shimmery gold... or the blue can be a pastel royal or navy. All over the place.

 

[Fizzler]

In international soccer, which means far more than the hybrid ever will, you have nations chopping and changing kits a lot more. Even countries as old and successful as Spain, France, and Holland. I mean seriously:

These guys constantly change – every single thing does! Sometimes they have blue shorts with red socks. Sometimes blue socks too. Sometimes it's all red. Then sometimes the red is bright and otherwise it's so dark it resembles Russia. And then the third colour can be obvious yellow or a genuine shimmery gold... or the blue can be a pastel royal or navy. All over the place.

Yeah but we are a sport where any major jumper changes that are shit attract a lot of controversy. Soccer however embraces jersey changes. This is the major difference.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Yeah but we are a sport where any major jumper changes that are shit attract a lot of controversy. Soccer however embraces jersey changes. This is the major difference.

"We are a sport?"

If you were talking about Aussie Rules, sure, but the undeniable fact is that this is not Aussie Rules. It's International Rules. The game is at most 50% like 'our' game.

As I said, if we were having SoO still and WA were changing jumpers in every series, then yes, there'd be a serious problem. But this is a concept that might be a footnote on a genuinely great players' resume. To most people, it's nothing but a jaunt overseas for the AFL honchos and a bunch of players.

I love how staunch we are about maintaining jumpers. It's important. It's also very rare for a professional, multi-billion-dollar game. But the reality is this is not the same sport. If the Socceroos, Wallabies, and the cricket team can change their strips every few years, the Aussie IR side can.

 

[alzy11]

"We are a sport?"

If you were talking about Aussie Rules, sure, but the undeniable fact is that this is not Aussie Rules. It's International Rules. The game is at most 50% like 'our' game.

As I said, if we were having SoO still and WA were changing jumpers in every series, then yes, there'd be a serious problem. But this is a concept that might be a footnote on a genuinely great players' resume. To most people, it's nothing but a jaunt overseas for the AFL honchos and a bunch of players.

I love how staunch we are about maintaining jumpers. It's important. It's also very rare for a professional, multi-billion-dollar game. But the reality is this is not the same sport. If the Socceroos, Wallabies, and the cricket team can change their strips every few years, the Aussie IR side can.

Yeah I wouldn't really care if we changed our designs around every year, preferably predominantly navy though.

But whatever colour it is, hopefully it's better than this year's in the future

 

[Fizzler]

"We are a sport?"

If you were talking about Aussie Rules, sure, but the undeniable fact is that this is not Aussie Rules. It's International Rules. The game is at most 50% like 'our' game.

As I said, if we were having SoO still and WA were changing jumpers in every series, then yes, there'd be a serious problem. But this is a concept that might be a footnote on a genuinely great players' resume. To most people, it's nothing but a jaunt overseas for the AFL honchos and a bunch of players.

I love how staunch we are about maintaining jumpers. It's important. It's also very rare for a professional, multi-billion-dollar game. But the reality is this is not the same sport. If the Socceroos, Wallabies, and the cricket team can change their strips every few years, the Aussie IR side can.

Our team represents the AFL, Australian football. That's my point.