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INXS - How far will they go ????

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oxx said:
The point is,
To the purist and true lover of INXS as a part of historical Australian artistry,
it's both depressing and infuriating to see the remnants of a living legend not only acknowledge but accept the current state of the music industry by whoring alongside names like Clay Aitken.
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lmao how did i miss this..oxx u truly are an idiot
 
bRiTtAnY said:
lmao how did i miss this..oxx u truly are an idiot
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You can put the album next to your kelly clarkson lunch box.
 

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oxx said:
You can put the album next to your kelly clarkson lunch box.
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umm i hate kelly clarkson and i hate most of the music today.. thats why i only listen to older music you d1ck..but im going to by switch coz i love inxs..
 
Poptart said:
Music made by real musicians, not computers!

Can't make any more clearer than that!
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So these computers you speak of just manage to turn themselves on, and they write a song all by themselves do they?

Being a guitarist for over 16 years, I feel my opinion is valid in this area.

To me there is no difference between a writer using a computer program to synthesize a score, melody, whatever...

It's just another tool the musician uses to get the sounds he/she wants.


Take the guitar for example. Until the 20th century, amplified instruments were basically non existent. The guitar itself was revolutionised in the middle of the century, when amps and all sorts of effects units came into play.

The people of earlier generations said 'That aint real music', but they were wrong.. of course.

How do you think most bands get their guitar, base, synth sounds these day?

Yep using computers.. Amazing isnt it?


You can break it down even further by comparing the ingredients used to make an acoustic guitar. An acoustic guitar is not natural, it is not found in nature as a guitar. Sure all the parts that make up a guitar may be natural, but it is simply a man-made tool used to make sounds that we consider to be music.

A computer is exactly the same.
 
The Dice Man said:
So these computers you speak of just manage to turn themselves on, and they write a song all by themselves do they?

Being a guitarist for over 16 years, I feel my opinion is valid in this area.

To me there is no difference between a writer using a computer program to synthesize a score, melody, whatever...

It's just another tool the musician uses to get the sounds he/she wants.


Take the guitar for example. Until the 20th century, amplified instruments were basically non existent. The guitar itself was revolutionised in the middle of the century, when amps and all sorts of effects units came into play.

The people of earlier generations said 'That aint real music', but they were wrong.. of course.

How do you think most bands get their guitar, base, synth sounds these day?

Yep using computers.. Amazing isnt it?


You can break it down even further by comparing the ingredients used to make an acoustic guitar. An acoustic guitar is not natural, it is not found in nature as a guitar. Sure all the parts that make up a guitar may be natural, but it is simply a man-made tool used to make sounds that we consider to be music.

A computer is exactly the same.
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Fair points you make their, but your still using guitars whilst using computers to enhance the sounds.

How about the people who turn the computers on, turn on a sequencer, loop a bass line, sample and cut other people original music and place it over the top, would you consider that as real music? It is music, but is it real music?
 
oxx said:
The point is,
To the purist and true lover of INXS as a part of historical Australian artistry,
it's both depressing and infuriating to see the remnants of a living legend not only acknowledge but accept the current state of the music industry by whoring alongside names like Clay Aitken.
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The money shot

The third ever album i bought was "Shabooh Shabah" on vynil and i have a hell of a lot sentiment attached to that album .

To see what they have reduced themselves to for no other reason than financial betterment simply sickens me .

It is one thing to see the Anthony Callea`s of this world milkin` it for all it`s worth but to see one of Australia`s truly great icons stooping to such sad levels is truly tragic .

Lets get Midnight Oil up there and se if we can`t get them a new front man :rolleyes:
 
IDGAF said:
The money shot

The third ever album i bought was "Shabooh Shabah" on vynil and i have a hell of a lot sentiment attached to that album .

To see what they have reduced themselves to for no other reason than financial betterment simply sickens me .

It is one thing to see the Anthony Callea`s of this world milkin` it for all it`s worth but to see one of Australia`s truly great icons stooping to such sad levels is truly tragic .

Lets get Midnight Oil up there and se if we can`t get them a new front man :rolleyes:
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I bought INXS, Underneath The Colours, Inxsive as well as the 7" & 12" singles from around the same time and have a lot of sentiment attached to those releases.

I also had tickets to the Elegantly Waisted tour which was to commence exactly 1 week after Michaels death. :(

The difference between INXS and the Idols / Popstars in my eyes are that the Idols are disposable, have all their material already written and probably produced and ready for their vocals as they leave the winning stage, 5 minutes later they are not heard of again.

Inxs for that matter are still going to be wriiten & produced by Andrew Farris, Jon Farris etc, the way they have been chopping and changing singers over the years suggests to me that the main reason for their continuation is the fact that they just want to play!

Did New Order make you feel tragic after they continued after the death of Ian Curtis & Joy Division and the fact that New Order continue to play Joy Division songs live?
 
IDGAF said:
The money shot

The third ever album i bought was "Shabooh Shabah" on vynil and i have a hell of a lot sentiment attached to that album .

To see what they have reduced themselves to for no other reason than financial betterment simply sickens me .

It is one thing to see the Anthony Callea`s of this world milkin` it for all it`s worth but to see one of Australia`s truly great icons stooping to such sad levels is truly tragic .

Lets get Midnight Oil up there and se if we can`t get them a new front man :rolleyes:
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"The Swing" has some great teenage memories for mine.
but as far as singles go,
"Just keep walking" is still my Fave:thumbsu:
 
Poptart said:
The difference between INXS and the Idols / Popstars in my eyes are that the Idols are disposable, have all their material already written and probably produced and ready for their vocals as they leave the winning stage, 5 minutes later they are not heard of again.
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So did INXS for the most part of this "project"
 

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Excuse me INXS wrote all the songs on switch!!! the only one they didnt write the lyrics to was "pretty vegas".
 
correct.The material was already written for the dude to walk off the stage and into the studio to record a bunch of songs that inx$ have written,just like a record company does with idol.
 
ooh i get you now..sorry i thought u meant they hadn't wrote their songs.
 
oxx said:
correct.The material was already written for the dude to walk off the stage and into the studio to record a bunch of songs that inx$ have written,just like a record company does with idol.
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I would imagine that since the death of Michael, the Farris brothers, Beers, Pengilly would have probably written and layed down many songs over the 8 year period just as any band would do.

Why would they completly disregard those songs and completly write a whole new batch just for the program? Doesn't make sense! :eek:

U2 for instance have hundreds of songs waiting in the wings for their time to appear on record such as tracks recorded and demo'd years earlier, i remember watching a story on u2 on 60 minutes quite a few years ago, during the interview, Bono was driving his car whilst singing to a demo, that song just happened to be "Original Of The Species" which years later surfaced on their latest release "HTDAAB"!
 
Poptart said:
Did New Order make you feel tragic after they continued after the death of Ian Curtis & Joy Division and the fact that New Order continue to play Joy Division songs live?
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You make some good points MW but that is not a good analogy .

I totally respect the Farris Bros right to continue to write and play music , all power to the boys and good luck to them , but why don`t they do what "Joy Division" did and re-invent themselves .

They did not pen "odes to Ian" , they did not embark on a very public recruitment campaign to replace him brokered by the highest common denominator marketing strategy of the time

What they did was sit down and figured out what they wanted to do and re-invented the wheel and did it magnificently . They realised that Ian Curtis was the heart and soul of what they were doing at the time and out of respect they chose not to continue on in thier former vein , and more importantly , they chose not to try and replace him either .

They are actually the template for what INXS should have done . Just write and play the songs and let that do the talking .

.... lets face it , it`s not like they really needed the money . At least the "Idol" nobodies have that on thier side
 
Yes but u2 have the same singer they have had for 25 years
and share a chemistry that defines the band and the sound therin.

Its the very lack of this substance that makes this album stink.

They've already had commitment concerns from the US label.
 

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IDGAF said:
You make some good points MW but that is not a good analogy .

I totally respect the Farris Bros right to continue to write and play music , all power to the boys and good luck to them , but why don`t they do what "Joy Division" did and re-invent themselves .

They did not pen "odes to Ian" , they did not embark on a very public recruitment campaign to replace him brokered by the highest common denominator marketing strategy of the time

What they did was sit down and figured out what they wanted to do and re-invented the wheel and did it magnificently . They realised that Ian Curtis was the heart and soul of what they were doing at the time and out of respect they chose not to continue on in thier former vein , and more importantly , they chose not to try and replace him either .

They are actually the template for what INXS should have done . Just write and play the songs and let that do the talking .

.... lets face it , it`s not like they really needed the money . At least the "Idol" nobodies have that on thier side
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One of the problems in my opinion was INXS trying to replace Hutch with first Terrence Trent Darby and then Jon Stevens, didn't sit well with me what so ever. How they got their new lead singer in which way they did is open for critisism, but in my opinion, i never watched Rock Star, well except for the final program [i guess i just wanted to see who was going to front the band for the next phase of their career], i couldn't care less how they chose him.

For me, as long as the new lead singer fits into INXS, is all that really matters to me, and hey, i quite like the new record "Pretty Vegas", it's actually quite cool and very much looking forward to the new album.

Yeah comparing it to JD & NO wasn't quite right, but you could compare it to AC/DC, and hey, many rate "You Shook Me" as one of the best Aussie tracks of all time!

Plus i wouldn't want INXS to change their name, but hey, thats just me!
 
Poptart said:
Yeah comparing it to JD & NO wasn't quite right, but you could compare it to AC/DC, and hey, many rate "You Shook Me" as one of the best Aussie tracks of all time!

Plus i wouldn't want INXS to change their name, but hey, thats just me!
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Fair enough Poppy

We will agree to disagree .

But i have already said on this thread in regard to the comparison to AC DC . unless you really knew the band through that era of Bon and then Brian , what i think a lot of people don`t truly understand was that whole ideal and driving force of that band was the Young brothers .

Bon Scott to a certain extent was only really a hired gun .

He was 10 years older than the rest of them . He had already cut his teeth fronting other bands in and from Adelaide ( pretty sure will stand corrected ) where he hailed from .

The rest of ACCA were all kids who grew up together , formed themselves a band and hired Bon . Whilst Bon`s legacy grew larger than life as did his profile within the band ... he was "not" the band .

That is why they were able to re-load with a new singer and make arguably the greatest hard rock album ever made . And i say that being a die-hard Bon man but if you do not acknowledge that album as such just because Bon was not on it then you are kidding yourself for mine .

....... INXS`s legacy is friggin huge , like them or not . A few of us have said here how important that band was when we were growing up . Oxx mentioned the Swing and i just think of year 11 PE camp up at Eildon and we listened to that album ( LMAO , along with Twisted Sister ) the whole time we were up there . Johnsons Aeroplane ... i would not have listened to that tune for 10 years but i tell you what , throw it on now and would still be word perfect on it .. sacred memories .. but you will not sway me on the fact that Michael Hutchence "WAS" INXS and it is almost a little sacriligeous what they have gone and done
 
I too have been a fan since I remember seeing 'Don't change' on Sounds on Ch 7 in the early 80's and thought unreal, here IS a band!

I was pretty good at picking their hit albums as well...thought 'Kick' would be the end of their careers after first listen and thought 'welcome to whereever you are' would relaunch their careers.

Anyway, if this album works out good luck to them.

A worthy read is the book on Hutchence written by his mum & stepsister called 'Just a Man'...complicated man ol' Mick was, and still sorely missed by most INXS fans.

Gaso

ps INXS2 Remixes rocks!
 
8 years today people.. R.I.P Michael Hutchence i love you and i always will xox

p.s it was his half sister not his step sister
 
IDGAF said:
Lets get Midnight Oil up there and se if we can`t get them a new front man :rolleyes:
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So you want to compare the band who "sells out" in INXS verses the frontman who uses his band to push his political agenda?

Interesting choice for comparison.
 

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