Is there a rule?

[mansize rooster]

A rule for a country (england) that says you should have X amount of players born from the country you are paying for?

where does it end?
just sayin

 

[mansize rooster]

it should be all 11
but i'll settle for 9 i guess

 

[rickyp]

You didn't want Symonds in the team?

 

[mansize rooster]

Nope
Trader. never a fan

 

[Tyberious Funk]

A rule for a country (england) that says you should have X amount of players born from the country you are paying for?

Nope. As long as the players have served their qualification period, you can have as many as you like. Would you prefer a "quota" system?

where does it end?
just sayin

Ask yourself the question... why does England attract so many overseas players in the first place?

 

[mansize rooster]

Nope. As long as the players have served their qualification period, you can have as many as you like. Would you prefer a "quota" system?

yes


Ask yourself the question... why does England attract so many overseas players in the first place?

cause these south africans dont wanna play with the blacks?
that was K.P

 

[aneale]

Yeah the rule is, serve the 4 year qualification period.

 

[mansize rooster]

Yeah the rule is, serve the 4 year qualification period.

well the rule is plain wrong.
soon to be word XI

 

[aneale]

well the rule is plain wrong.
soon to be word XI

Tell that to Usman Khawaja and Moises Henriques when they play test cricket for Australia one day.

 

[Wallaby]

The first ever Australian test team from 1876-77 that won the first test contained 4 players born in England, one born in Ireland and one born in India.

These included Charles Bannerman (who made 165*), Billy Midwinter (who took 5/78 in England's 1st innings) and Tom Kendall (who took 7/55 in England's 2nd innings).

 

[mansize rooster]

yep sorry son play for pakistan
and henriques..thats a tough one lol

 

[mansize rooster]

The first ever Australian test team from 1876-77 that won the first test contained 4 players born in England, one born in Ireland and one born in India.

These included Charles Bannerman (who made 165*), Billy Midwinter (who took 5/78 in England's 1st innings) and Tom Kendall (who took 7/55 in England's 2nd innings).

****.

 

[Furn]

Tell that to Usman Khawaja and Moises Henriques when they play test cricket for Australia one day.

add O"keefe to that list to.


All of the SA players in the England team were qualified for England by the age of 15. Strauss has lived in ENG since he was 2, Prior since he was 11 and Trott and Pieterson both had English parents so had British passports from birth.

 

[aneale]

add O"keefe to that list to.


All of the SA players in the England team were qualified for England by the age of 15. Strauss has lived in ENG since he was 2, Prior since he was 11 and Trott and Pieterson both had English parents so had British passports from birth.

as had Allan Lamb, Robin Smith, Tony Grieg etc

 

[InCase]

There's a difference between people moving to a country when they are young, playing all their youth cricket in a country, and just taking already established youngsters and having them play for a country because of some small blood line or 4 year rule.

Eoin Morgan is an exception, he should be allowed to play for England as his home country, Ireland, does not have a test team.

Kieswatter Trott and Pietterson should not be allowed to play for England. Prior, Morgan, Strauss are fine. imo.

Symonds moved here when he was 3 months old ffs and Henriques was 1. Not sure on how old Khawaja was when he moved.

 

[ROSEMVP]

didnt khawaja move here when he was two?

i dont mind that however if you moved to say aus from nz you have to represent nz if you move him after 13 years old or something like that.

 

[InCase]

I know its a differnt sport but how about Tim Cahill? Played for a different country and had to have rules changed to play for Australia. He is seen as a great Australian now. Get over it.

Place of birth Sydney, Australia

 

[ROSEMVP]

that cahill one is a strange one. which i still can't figure about how we got him to play for us in the end.

qatar national has alot of brazilans in it i think.

 

[ROSEMVP]

Place of birth Sydney, Australia

he played for samoa at under 17 level i think.

 

[InCase]

he played for samoa at under 17 level i think.

The point would be (as per the idea of this thread); he shouldn't be able to play for Samoa, not that he shouldn't be able to play for Australia.

 

[Ill Chicken]

Sour grapes thread?

 

[skipper kelly]

A mixture of Saffers and Poms. Its beautiful. Double hate.

 

[aneale]

There's a difference between people moving to a country when they are young, playing all their youth cricket in a country, and just taking already established youngsters and having them play for a country because of some small blood line or 4 year rule.

Eoin Morgan is an exception, he should be allowed to play for England as his home country, Ireland, does not have a test team.

Kieswatter Trott and Pietterson should not be allowed to play for England. Prior, Morgan, Strauss are fine. imo.

Symonds moved here when he was 3 months old ffs and Henriques was 1. Not sure on how old Khawaja was when he moved.

Morgan has an International century playing for Ireland and a 4 year career playing for them. If you are going to exclude Trott and Pietersen who never played international cricket (as an adult) for any country you should exclude Morgan who has, irrespective of his likelihood of ever playing test cricket for Ireland.

He represents Ireland in a World Cup qualifier in May 2009 and plays for England in June 2009.

 

[InCase]

Morgan has an International century playing for Ireland and a 4 year career playing for them. If you are going to exclude Trott and Pietersen who never played international cricket for any country you should exclude Morgan who has, irrespective of his likelihood of ever playing test cricket for Ireland.

He represents Ireland in a World Cup qualifier in May 2009 and plays for England in June 2009.

I just feel bad for him, as he wouldn't be able to play cricket at the highest level due to being born in Ireland. The others can play cricket at the highest level due to being born and raised in South Africa however. But you're probably right, he probably shouldn't be able to play either.

 

[TP86]

that cahill one is a strange one. which i still can't figure about how we got him to play for us in the end.

qatar national has alot of brazilans in it i think.

Cahill played for Samoa in a youth tournament. FIFA changed the rules to allow players to declare their nation at senior level even if they'd represented a different country at junior level. This was maybe in 2004 or 2005. Had the rule been changed prior to the 2002 World Cup, Cahill may have been lost to Australia forever. He declared his intent to play for Ireland at senior level in 2001, however there were no rule changes or appeals forthcoming, meaning he was still only eligible for Samoa. A few years down the track when the rule was changed, Australia had well and truly talked him around to being a Socceroo.