It's looking bleak[er] for the Dees

[Hardas]

Unlikely to be concluded before this National Draft, I guess. But they must be in some trouble here, you would think.

'THE AFL has uncovered a secret meeting involving at least 10 members of the Melbourne football department in which coaches were reminded of the importance of forfeiting matches in order to gain early draft picks.
Former Melbourne football boss Chris Connolly addressed the 2009 meeting which The Age understands was code-named 'the vault'.
The club is now receiving legal advice after at least four witnesses have been recalled by the AFL and admitted the club planned to deliberately lose games of football. Among those to have confessed the meeting took place upon being re-interviewed are former coach Dean Bailey, his then assistant Josh Mahoney and the Demons' former recruiting manager Barry Prendergast, now at Carlton.'

Full article:​

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...e-lid-on-melbournes-vault-20121030-28h3c.html
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[RuFiO]

Andy "Tanking doesn't exist" D won't do jack. It'll dent his ego/pride/image whatever else if he admits to it.

 

[blaze036]

Take away pick 4 plz

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Andy "Tanking doesn't exist" D won't do jack. It'll dent his ego/pride/image whatever else if he admits to it.

He did add "if anyone has proof to the contrary I'm open to changing my mind"

 

[blaze036]

Andy "Tanking doesn't exist" D won't do jack. It'll dent his ego/pride/image whatever else if he admits to it.

It isnt Andy D's department, there is a separate body charged with protecting the integrity of the game.

 

[loki04]

MMM CAN ANYONE SAY 16,17,18 AND 37!!

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Andrew Demetriou has arbitrarily but not inconveniently chosen to define tanking as "players taking the field and playing with the intention of losing the game", which of course never happens.

In reality, players simply don't try very hard to do anything much at all. Terry Wallace echoed this sentiment when he said, while tanking, he just sat up in the coaches' box and did nothing.

So Demetriou has assumed a position that almost can't be falsified. Of course he can then say "tanking doesn't exist", until someone in red and blue runs down the wing taking six bounces and dobs a goal from 60m for the opposition.

 

[Number 10]

MMM CAN ANYONE SAY 16,17,18 AND 37!!

No.

I can, however say 16,17,18 and 36!

 

[RuFiO]

Andrew Demetriou has arbitrarily but not inconveniently chosen to define tanking as "players taking the field and playing with the intention of losing the game", which of course never happens.

In reality, players simply don't try very hard to do anything much at all. Terry Wallace echoed this sentiment when he said, while tanking, he just sat up in the coaches' box and did nothing.

So Demetriou has assumed a position that almost can't be falsified. Of course he can then say "tanking doesn't exist", until someone in red and blue runs down the wing taking six bounces and dobs a goal from 60m for the opposition.

So are you saying we were tanking every time we played Cameron Wood?

 

[Zahki]

Demetriou has absolutely no interest in punishing any club for tanking. Thats why he has that stupidly specific definition. Everyone knows if Melbourne weren't deliberately trying to fall as low as possible on the ladder, they sure as hell weren't putting any serious effort into trying to climb back up it. The current AFL administration clearly has no interest in uncovering anything that might embarrass them, they're far more comfortable putting their heads in the sand and ignoring the issue than having a potentially messy confrontation with it.

Melbourne are reaping the rewards of their plan on the field anyway. Their players have had 3 years of essentially no coaching because they were deliberately trying to underachieve, it's set their players back further than anyone could've imagined.

 

[golazo]

Hope they crash and burn.

 

[RuFiO]

I don't believe they should be penalised for tanking.
I reckon they should be penalised for burning nearly every god damn pick they got for tanking.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Demetriou has absolutely no interest in punishing any club for tanking.

Correct. It's like the UCI and Lance Armstrong.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Of course they were tanking.

What other explanation could there possibly be for holding onto Bailey for as long as they did?

Melbourne will conduct a full investigation, conclude that none of the current administration were involved. If the AFL punish them, it will be a fine (Melbourne are flush, aren't they?)

 

[Hardas]

No.

I can, however say 16,17,18 and 36!

Many may be right in saying they'll get off lightly, but I'm in this boat, hoping that it goes our way...it'd be very nice, thank you...

 

[The Royal Sampler]

So are you saying we were tanking every time we played Cameron Wood?

No, Wood wasn't trying to help the opposition to win. He just wasn't trying to help us win either. Hence by Demetriou's definition; no tanking occurred.

 

[muzzy2]

Which club did Bleak play for and why would he go to the Dees?

 

[Alexander323bc]

In all the excitement everyone seems to have missed Libba's comments that it also happened at Carlton. Just sayin!

 

[Daicosssssssssss]

In all the excitement everyone seems to have missed Libba's comments that it also happened at Carlton. Just sayin!

You beat me to it.

People are forgetting the Kruezer Cup?
Brook Mclean left Melbourne because of tanking and then ends up at Carltank.

Figure that out?

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I don't think anyone's forgotten it. It's merely that Carltank pay well enough that no-one's going to come out and volunteer a statement to corroborate what Libba said.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

You beat me to it.

People are forgetting the Kruezer Cup?
Brook Mclean left Melbourne because of tanking and then ends up at Carltank.

Figure that out?

It always amused me when Mclean said he left Melb because of tanking & went to Carlton.

I'm guessing he didn't care but had a parting shot as he walked out the door.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

So whats the worst case if they find them guilty tomorrow? Loss of pick 4, Hogan (will go into 2013 draft), unable to pick up Viney (Goddard style)?? Would that just about do it? Maybe some other picks?? 1 million dollar + fine?

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I doubt it. Melbourne are a basket case and the AFL needs them to be competitive. They're not as robust as Adelaide.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Demetriou has absolutely no interest in punishing any club for tanking. Thats why he has that stupidly specific definition.

I can't imagine the betting agencies would be happy with that attitude.

 

[DaicosianMarvels]

Demetriou will still find a way and say it doesnt exist. He is a goose, everyone can bloody see it's going on except him. They should be stripped off all their picks.

That would work out just fine for us.