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itsintheblood said:
Well after some long hard thinking and after having read in detail the annual report i got in the mail yesterday, and also after all the great debates on these boards, I've come to the conlusion that we MUST re-elect Casey for a number of reasons.

1. We CANNOT afford to put in a team of unknown quantities in Macek and his band of know-nothing clonies. Brendan Schwab especially. They have given me NOTHING to go on in terms of how they plan to lift this once great club. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

2. Stability. We MUST follow this path, even on the back of a disasterous financial result which I attribute directly to the destruction of our football list by Frawley and his sidekicks. No-one can convince me that failure on the field doesn't lead to disaster off it. Proof is in the pudding. Who would want to go and watch the 3 legged horses we were putting on the track each week?

3. Terry Wallace must have 100% support of those who employed him.

4. The groundwork appears to have been done in terms of cost reduction and realistic revenue forecasts for next year under the supervision of the AFL.

5. Greg Miller is important in the makeup at this point in time. We need him more than we don't. He's just eliminated Ty Zantuck who obviously had a negative impact on the group due to his behaviour. He's someone elses problem now.

6. There is no guarantee that we won't end up with a mixed selection on the board after the election which will cause more bloodletting and friction.
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Anything else you want us to do Mr Kuchma?
 
londontiger said:
I have decided I will be voting for Casey and his ticket.

Reasons,

1. We have a financial plan that the AFL has endorsed (regardless of who put it together)
2. We are moving the right way to secure more memberships in 2005. I firmly this is not the right time for the alternative ticket.
3. Miller is guaranteed to be around by voting the Casey ticket
4. Miller has been given the green light by Wright and Wallace, two men I would suggest would speak out if there was trouble brewing in the future.
5. Casey will be accountable. His past dealings have been poor, but he is not alone. Welsh, Schwab and Macek have all sat on recent Richmond boards, and are accountable.
6. The Big 4 vision lost me at the very beginning when they discussed how in 1999 we were on the verge of better things and Casey had destroyed all this good work. I remember in 1999, we had just signed 4 players on $$$$, upto our 4th coach in the previous 5 year period, NO one wanted to coach us and we ended up with Frawley, traded away draft picks for duds. Surely 5 years on we have made POSITIVE CHANGES under this board???
7. This board election has ended up splitting the supporter base, and as such RFC will be an unsettled place regardless of the outcome. Whatever can be done to settle the club is what is required. Voting the incumbants with Miller and O'Shannassy I see as the best course of action
8. I feel much more comfortable with the current structure and positive steps to ensure our footy club takes the relevent measures to survive. It is a case of better the devil you know. This statement includes Miller.
9. There is no new blood for me to get excited about with the alternative ticket, and I have previously stated my concerns about Macek not having time to run for the board 5 or so months ago, and only running when presidency was beckoning.
10. I feel this whole situation will make sure that whoever sits on any RFC board in the future is accountable to all its members. This I can only say is a good thing.
11. Change was the outcome wanted by the alternative supporters, and I believe change has occured and will continue to occur, under the current board.
12. I want the team to concentrate on football and football alone. I believe that stability of voting in the existing board will deliver this.

I expect to be shot down on this, but I am aware of many voters coming to this conclusion as well.

At the end of the day, I have stated that whoever gets in will get my full support, and I hope other supporters feel the same way.


Just picked up on the interpretation of this post.

5. Casey will be accountable. His past dealings have been poor, but he is not alone. Welsh, Schwab and Macek have all sat on recent Richmond boards, and are accountable.

To Clarify:

Charles Macek was not a board member during the well documented last two poor trading performances. 2003 and 2004.

Macek was on the board in 1999, when decisions documented above were made. RE: Danny Frawley being the best available coach we could sign, and the bloodless coup which saw Casey step onto the board by Daphne standing down.
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Hey LT dont agree with everything you say, but at least you have presented a logical and plausible arguement to support your views unlike others on this board who at their best can resort to personal attacks.

At least you argue your case in logical and a sensible fashion.

At the end of the day, probably like you I wont even get to vote as I also live overseas, but hey what the hell with presenting your views. I respect the majority of views unlike some others

Well done LT.
 
londontiger said:
I have decided I will be voting for Casey and his ticket.

Reasons,

1. We have a financial plan that the AFL has endorsed (regardless of who put it together)
2. We are moving the right way to secure more memberships in 2005. I firmly this is not the right time for the alternative ticket.
3. Miller is guaranteed to be around by voting the Casey ticket
4. Miller has been given the green light by Wright and Wallace, two men I would suggest would speak out if there was trouble brewing in the future.
5. Casey will be accountable. His past dealings have been poor, but he is not alone. Welsh, Schwab and Macek have all sat on recent Richmond boards, and are accountable.
6. The Big 4 vision lost me at the very beginning when they discussed how in 1999 we were on the verge of better things and Casey had destroyed all this good work. I remember in 1999, we had just signed 4 players on $$$$, upto our 4th coach in the previous 5 year period, NO one wanted to coach us and we ended up with Frawley, traded away draft picks for duds. Surely 5 years on we have made POSITIVE CHANGES under this board???
7. This board election has ended up splitting the supporter base, and as such RFC will be an unsettled place regardless of the outcome. Whatever can be done to settle the club is what is required. Voting the incumbants with Miller and O'Shannassy I see as the best course of action
8. I feel much more comfortable with the current structure and positive steps to ensure our footy club takes the relevent measures to survive. It is a case of better the devil you know. This statement includes Miller.
9. There is no new blood for me to get excited about with the alternative ticket, and I have previously stated my concerns about Macek not having time to run for the board 5 or so months ago, and only running when presidency was beckoning.
10. I feel this whole situation will make sure that whoever sits on any RFC board in the future is accountable to all its members. This I can only say is a good thing.
11. Change was the outcome wanted by the alternative supporters, and I believe change has occured and will continue to occur, under the current board.
12. I want the team to concentrate on football and football alone. I believe that stability of voting in the existing board will deliver this.

I expect to be shot down on this, but I am aware of many voters coming to this conclusion as well.

At the end of the day, I have stated that whoever gets in will get my full support, and I hope other supporters feel the same way.


Just picked up on the interpretation of this post.

5. Casey will be accountable. His past dealings have been poor, but he is not alone. Welsh, Schwab and Macek have all sat on recent Richmond boards, and are accountable.

To Clarify:

Charles Macek was not a board member during the well documented last two poor trading performances. 2003 and 2004.

Macek was on the board in 1999, when decisions documented above were made. RE: Danny Frawley being the best available coach we could sign, and the bloodless coup which saw Casey step onto the board by Daphne standing down.
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Hey LT dont agree with everything you say, but at least you have presented a logical and plausible arguement to support your views unlike others on this board who at their best can resort to personal attacks.

At least you argue your case in logical and a sensible fashion.

At the end of the day, probably like you I wont even get to vote as I also live overseas, but hey what the hell with presenting your views. I respect the majority of views unlike some others

Well done LT. :D
 

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Gustiger I totally agree with your comments. Like you, I want what's best for the club. I'm also tired of the old line that only Richmond people should control the club.

Our club has been divided by internal factions since I started supporting them in the early 70's. A year doesn't pass, without some internal issue splitting the club in half. Well I'm sick and tired of it.

In a lot of cases, these are the same people who turned the knife into Bartlett, who forced Northey out, who sent us broke in the 80's, who have delivered pretty much nothing over the last 20 years. I mean nothing.

The Wilson family, the Schwab family, the Bourke family, who pretty much think they own the club. In respect to Caroline Wilson, I think 1/3 of her articles in the Age this year have been about getting stuck into the Tigers. She needs to get a life and stop having pot shots at the RFC!!!

I'm not totally convinced that Casey is a bloke who I would want sit down and have a beer with. But I do think at long last he has got his head around what needs to be done, and there is a plan in place to achieve some kind of success.
 
gustiger12 said:
Hey LT dont agree with everything you say, but at least you have presented a logical and plausible arguement to support your views unlike others on this board who at their best can resort to personal attacks.

At least you argue your case in logical and a sensible fashion.

At the end of the day, probably like you I wont even get to vote as I also live overseas, but hey what the hell with presenting your views. I respect the majority of views unlike some others

Well done LT. :D
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Gustiger.

Thanks for the post.

I, like yourself, are one of those Tigers that will come back one day and probably end up on a board. (not necessarily RFC ;))

I renew my membership each year (bar one), for every year I have been away - close to Eight now.

I have one vote (and a reserve seat I never use), and I have discussed the whole election with the other 9 members of the extended family all back in OZ.

10 votes are going to CC, for reasons addressed above.
 
os guys if you want to vote get onto a bird called angela at the club she will then direct you to the auditing team.

I take what london says but i just cannot vote for casey. He ran our car into the ground without any care. He nearly caused us finacial ruin and his marketing plan was ridiculous. Miller has sided with him, poor move greggie but you make your bed and lay in it. I just wished he stayed nuetral that way the tigerscoulod have been presentede with the facts and gone fwd adminstration wise and left mad do miller to run the footy which he does well.

anyway here is the contact, like you blokes i have kept up my membership after stints here , singapore and Taiwan...

ASturzaker@richmondfc.com.au
 

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