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oxx said:
What did Casey do to alienate those members and sponsors Weaver ?

As has been reported he cut their entitlements and didn;t attend their functions which is traditionally seen as part of the President's entitlements. He alienated others by cancelling family day and outsourcing activities which were formally allowed volunteers to feel part of the club. Also the administration he was supervising didn't have adequate structures in place to ensure that sponsor leads were effectively followed up.
 
mighty tiges said:
Who knows what the trade week deal was in monetary terms. The bombers rocked up with only 2 minutes to go to the cut-off offering pick 30 for Zantuck and pick 36. Sheeds was up to his old tricks. Get a player for virtually nothing and keep his PSD pick. No other club traded with the Dons either.

It was reported that the Zantuck deal would have gotten us pick 9. Presumably we would have traded Zantuck and a pick(s), but I think it was better than the proposal you are reporting.
 
I just want to ask silence of the robert- who obviously wants miller out


what has the macek group done to make you vote for them

I will reiterate once again TW-He will not last long under macek and the group. I know for a fact that i will not disclose

I f you dont want wallace to see out the 5 years then by all means kick miller out with your vote
 

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Nbrown7 said:
I just want to ask silence of the robert- who obviously wants miller out


what has the macek group done to make you vote for them

I will reiterate once again TW-He will not last long under macek and the group. I know for a fact that i will not disclose

I f you dont want wallace to see out the 5 years then by all means kick miller out with your vote

I am ambivalent about Miller. Happy if he stays. Wont slash my wrists if he goes.

I dont know if I will be voting for the 'Macek group' but I wont vote for Casey or Miller as they both have records as failed administrators. On their records Macek has clearly more credibility to run the board and formulate and implement policy.

Finally I doubt Wallace will hang around too long if we are allowed only a salary cap of 92.5% which is the danger if Casey stays. However if you have evidence that Wallace will get the boot if Macek gets in that is clearly relevant and should be shared with members.

Gee pity for Danny he didn't have the same PR machine that Casey has.

"Well Danny has stuffed up the team these last few years and we have gone backwards, but you snipers are just concerned about the past, the future is important and Danny will have the boys sticking fat and cherry ripe for the finals. Promise!! Hes even outsourced the footy planning to an AFL consultant and Demetriou reckons its "yeah no - good". And what about that Wallace - he hasn't even won a game for the tiges - Whats he proved? what sort of alternative is that?

If you applied some consistency about how you treated the coach and the president you would realise how ludicrous the pro Casey arguments are!!
 
mighty tiges said:
Ty himself knocked that trade on the head. Refused to go to North.

It was not reported that way in the article I read. The deal to get pick 9 was the one that fell through because it was 30 seconds too late, not because Ty did not want to go to North.

You may be right, but that was not the same report as in the age (the one that said we could have had 5 picks in the first round).

Dan
 
tigerdan said:
It was not reported that way in the article I read. The deal to get pick 9 was the one that fell through because it was 30 seconds too late, not because Ty did not want to go to North.

You may be right, but that was not the same report as in the age (the one that said we could have had 5 picks in the first round).

Dan
The deal that was 30 seconds too late was Zantuck & pick 36 to Essendon for pick 30.

The deal of Zantuck to North for pick 9 was brokered on the Thursday but fell through because Zantuck refused to go there.
 
Fishfinger said:
The deal that was 30 seconds too late was Zantuck & pick 36 to Essendon for pick 30.

The deal of Zantuck to North for pick 9 was brokered on the Thursday but fell through because Zantuck refused to go there.

Correct.
 
tiger of old said:
Sorry i,ve checked out Macek,s CV and i cant see where he has been in charge of a football club

A point people refuse to acknowledge !

How u been Too ?
 

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LMAOO@Too being shocked with me being nice.

LMAOO@Having a catch up on the board.

Good than Too.lol
 
silence ofthe Robert said:
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The 1.5 m in savings were identified and implemented by Crowe Lovett at the AFL's behest. Our board could not identify or fix those problems!!! Casey = Clown!!

That is the one thing that worries me most Bob. You are spot on. Miller has said if you don't give me my Clinton I will take by Bat and Ball and go home and everyone has gone into panic mode.

I have the utmost respect for Miller as a football administrator, but his desire to put all his eggs in one basket and risk his job suggest to me that there is more to this than meets the eye. It suggest to me his loyalty is to Clinton CASEY not the Richmond football club.

He is a paid employee he should be prepared to work for whoever the members elect, it is there (our) choice.
 
Yeah its really suggestive isnt it??

NOT!!

Someone shows loyalty to a friend and employer when they are being attacked by unscrupulous power merchants is suddenly "Taking drug money".

GET REAL.

His loyalty is to the club. The reality is, he knows schwab and co are bad for the club and he is doing his bit to protect the RFC!!!!

Would you let the burglar into your house and then offer him a cup of tea and call that loyalty to the RFC????

Lets not be stupid.

gustiger12 said:
That is the one thing that worries me most Bob. You are spot on. Miller has said if you don't give me my Clinton I will take by Bat and Ball and go home and everyone has gone into panic mode.

I have the utmost respect for Miller as a football administrator, but his desire to put all his eggs in one basket and risk his job suggest to me that there is more to this than meets the eye. It suggest to me his loyalty is to Clinton CASEY not the Richmond football club.

He is a paid employee he should be prepared to work for whoever the members elect, it is there (our) choice.
 

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Punt_Road_Roar said:
The past 3 months have been the most excited I have been about our club in over 10 years.

Casey's Ticket should remain on board and please no more scare tactics about the bleeding obvious last 5 years. I already know whats happened in the past.

I want to be shown some direction not a hole heap of scare mongering doom and gloom garbage and huff and puff slander tactics thanks.

Sorry PRR. You're making an enormous assumption here. In 5 years under Casey, every plan, if there were any developed, failed and were thrown out. What makes you think the latest one will work?

What makes you think this one will either be executed or executed properly?

Casey's track record is what's being voted on. Whatever plan is on the table is wishful thinking because one thing that is for certain and proven over the past 5 years, is that whatever plan Casey has ends up with wooden spoons and $2.3m losses.
 
mighty tiges said:
We are projecting a $200K loss next year but as these budget estimates for 2005 are on the conservative side we could very well break even or score a small profit if we perform better in the various areas of the Club. The difference now is we won't be relying on these better than expected performances to balance the books. Any increases if and only if they occur will be treated as a bonus.

Any financial projections from Casey's board lack credibility. If the RFC was publically traded, we'd be One.Tel and Casey would be Jodee Rich.
 
tigertime said:
Yeah its really suggestive isnt it??

NOT!!

Someone shows loyalty to a friend and employer when they are being attacked by unscrupulous power merchants is suddenly "Taking drug money".

GET REAL.

His loyalty is to the club. The reality is, he knows schwab and co are bad for the club and he is doing his bit to protect the RFC!!!!

Would you let the burglar into your house and then offer him a cup of tea and call that loyalty to the RFC????

Lets not be stupid.

Not many people make me angry but you are obviously beyond stupid. Your inference and referenc to "taking drug Money" is a sign of your mentality. I do not normally attack the person as it is bad form, but you take the cake with such idiotic comments.

Maybe now you understand why I hate politics.
 
gustger you were the one who made the inference that miller's relationship with casey is on the nose

maybe you're idiotic

maybe you don't work in a "workplace"

people in workplaces do sometimes exhibit "loyalty to their bosses - who employed/appointed them" - this is probably foreign to you though - not everyone who does this and takes a stand is "taking their bat and ball and going home" have the balls to stand behind your opinion - miller doesn't need "your respect for his football administrative abilities"

another "fickle member"
 
bluehouse said:
gustger you were the one who made the inference that miller's relationship with casey is on the nose

maybe you're idiotic

maybe you don't work in a "workplace"

people in workplaces do sometimes exhibit "loyalty to their bosses - who employed/appointed them" - this is probably foreign to you though - not everyone who does this and takes a stand is "taking their bat and ball and going home" have the balls to stand behind your opinion - miller doesn't need "your respect for his football administrative abilities"

another "fickle member"

if you only had a clue.

Fickle I am not. What I am objecting to is the reference to "taking drug money." That is seriously taking thing to another level. What I am questioning is Millers desire to get involved in Politics when he is an employee of the club.

I like what MILLER has done and definitely don't want to lose him, but we don't need him on the board to do what he does best.

CASEY has had five years to turn it around and has failed at every corner to do so. What makes you believe him now. He has said the same thing every year.

Contrary to what you might think I don't hate CASEY, but I HATE the fact that he has lost 3 million in 3 years. If its all tied to onfield performance like some say then how the hell did Hawthorn make yet another profit.

Can honestly tell me you think Casey has done a good job over the last five years???????? CASEY was given his chance, but he has been a dismal failure. (IMHO)

By the way I have been a fully paid up financial member for over 10 years despite not living in Australia for 5 of those. And no I am not an on the Bench or Interstate member, I am a full 17 game ticket holder. Two infact.

And yes I do work for a living..........

By the way "more to this than meets the eye" doesn't suggest anything untoward. You have jumped to conclusion. It may be that MILLER is aware of things that we are not aware of about the alternative ticket. If that the case, seeing he has now decided to be a Political canditate, a board member, a representative of the members, doesn't he then have an obligation to tell us, the members, what those concerns are. Maybe you just have an overly suspicious mind. :eek:

I for one will be glad when this ELECTION is over.
 
1980 said:
Any financial projections from Casey's board lack credibility. If the RFC was publically traded, we'd be One.Tel and Casey would be Jodee Rich.

... or we would be Concept Sports. Of course I imagine the Casey supporters will be ticking the box next to Gary March's name. After all his track record inspires such confidence.

Concept Sports - worse to come
 

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