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celtic_pride said:
It seems to me (listening to talkback radio the last few days) that a lot of people will be voting for Casey's tix because Miller has sided with his board, and will leave the club if the opposing tix gets elected ?
That seems strange that so many people will vote for the incumbent just because he's swayed Greg Miller to run for his board ?
It is an big conflict of interest to have an football ceo on an board, I mean where would the accountability be if that happens ?
Miller don't forget gave Frawley the contract extension, and he traded the early draft pick (which eventually became #2 Daniel Wells) for Kane Johnson, so he is liable to make mistakes along the way.
I think Richmond members should take other matters into consideration (IE the massive that Richmond has incurred since Casey has been president)
Also the contracts under Casey's reign to players have been appalling (IE the massive contract that Darren Gaspar is signed to)
Vote for who you want, but I suspect that Richmond will continue to lose money (in the short and long term) under Clinton's reign as prez.

Miller didnt give frawley the extension.
 
I am amazed at Casey apologists and Miller sycophants. You are alll living in the past - all about a quick fix again isn't it? ' Oh no we are doomed if Miller goes", "If Miller backs Casey thats good enough for me" , "Miller will save us" blah blah blah.

No ticker response if you ask me.

Casey is a joke as president

FACTS

Spent 380K in a marketing campaign to collect 160K in extra membership revenue - Clown!

Corporate income fell from 4.6m in 2003 to 3.9M in 2004 (budget projection was 5.5M) - I thought Casey and GM were movers and shakers in attracting corporate revenue - Clown!

While Casey was acting CEO, and Campbell CEO (appointed without an interview), our cash reserves went from plus $473,984 to minus 2,4M - clown!

As Weaver said our playing crap had nothing to do with it as our actual matchday income went up by 400K in 2004. Hawthorn who have played as crap as us have 6M in cash reserves - We have a 3M overdraft - Casey = Clown!

The financial report states that we are "econically dependant on the ongoing assistance of the AFL". We are technically INSOLVENT without the AFL's assistance and losing control of our own destiny. If we are insolvent we cannot trade and its shut up shop fellas and lets follow the amateurs or Brisbane like those sad ex fitzroy fans do! Casey = Clown.

We have budgeted for a loss again next year. Casey = Clown.

The 1.5 m in savings were identified and implemented by Crowe Lovett at the AFL's behest. Our board could not identify or fix those problems!!! Casey = Clown!!

Casey hid financial information from the Board - Clown!

As Weaver has stated, further losses would result in Richmond losing its independance and handling control over to the AFL. If we are forced to access the AFL's competitive balance fund we must meet the AFL's condition with include not using 100% of our salary cap. I think the Bulldogs and North are capped at 92.5%. That means that if our youngsters actually happen to turn out into decent players you can kiss them goodbye as we wont be able to fit them in our salary cap and you can applaud them while they are starring for Essendon, Carlton or Collingwood!! Casey = clown!!!!!

And this furphy about the doom & gloom if Miller goes. Gees grow some ***** fellas.

There are a number of important people at the club.

1. Coach - Wallace - good get - 5 year contract.
2. CEO - Wright - on contract.
3. Players - HELLO!!! will keep them only we dont go broke
4. Football Manager - Miller whose role seems to be a GR role in encouraging good players and good dollars into the club - Is well regarded, has been very active and has plans in place - I hope that those plans bear fruit but at present time we are in the shyte hole in both financial and football terms. I'm happy if he stays. Wont be slashing my wrists if he leaves
5. The Board - HELLO!!!! - Havent you been reading the above - Clowns

A lot of you guys have a Schwab phobia - Easy to solve - Dont vote for him. If you blame Welsh as well dont vote for him - but if you seriously want to follow the tiges after the expiration of the present TV deal you cant risk CASEY - Come on get real - Worst Board and worst team in the history of RFC!! and some of you guys want this sort of stability!!

I have yet to renew my membership. I hate that Casey has pi**ed my hard earned up the wall these last two years - Not to keen to see my membership dollars being used by Casey to buy his ivory backscratchers

Perhaps I should do a Miller and blackmail the club and say if Casey gets in , the club loses 5 memberships - On second thought, thats a bit weak isn't it, ......................Greg!!!.

I think I have had enough of this politics stuff. If the bleeding obvious isn't enough to guide some of you guys , so be it. Anyway we all have a vote - use it wisely - democracy will again show us the way (sob, sob)

Cant wait for the Wizard Cup and seeing some good footy (fingers crossed).

Good luck to All and the tiges. I think we might need plenty!
 
silence ofthe Robert said:
I am amazed at Casey apologists and Miller sycophants. You are alll living in the past - all about a quick fix again isn't it? '

the alternative ticket are the ones living in the past, with their bunch of yesterdays heros and no real direction going forward into the future.

Sorry Robert its 2004 not 1974.

The past 3 months have been the most excited I have been about our club in over 10 years.

Casey's Ticket should remain on board and please no more scare tactics about the bleeding obvious last 5 years. I already know whats happened in the past.

I want to be shown some direction not a hole heap of scare mongering doom and gloom garbage and huff and puff slander tactics thanks.
 

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After reading all of the SOTR, i am now even more likely to vote for Casey. Miller has jumped on board the Casey ticket because he believe Casey would do a better job than the Macek run ticket. If Casey fukced up that bad, can just imagine how much worse Macek would be.
 
spot on silence of the Bob...

if the financial results are merely at the mercy of the on-field performances, then try to convince me that the Pies will suddenly make a $1m loss next year...

No? Well why do you think that might be....huh???

Perhaps becuase they've promoted the value of their brand and people are actually keen to be associated with the club. Not crappy sunglass manufacturers and taxi companies - dead set heavyweights...

at this stage I wouldn't be surprised to see us run out in round 1 with "Joe's Garage" on our shorts.

If blood's call that the on-field performance is the main (I think in 1 post he said the only) reason why our finances are shyte then why not let Stripes Dyer be Prez as clearly when you're running the club you are 100% at the mercy of the team's performance, so why even bother???

Can you see how irrational your arguments are??????

I guess not. Lord help us. :(
 
PRR, the last 3 months have indeed been "exciting".

Amazing what finishing stone motherless last can do for morale. May there be 5 years more like it, then I'll be feeling frigging euphoric...

you are so easily pleased. Some us hope for more.
 
UpTheGuts said:
PRR, the last 3 months have indeed been "exciting".

Amazing what finishing stone motherless last can do for morale. May there be 5 years more like it, then I'll be feeling frigging euphoric...

you are so easily pleased. Some us hope for more.


yeah like continued disunity and more hardship ............ :rolleyes:

all you pro alternative people can talk about is what has happened I havent seen anyone from the alternative side talk about how they are REALLY going to fix this problem they are all jumping around about.

its not much to ask............ perhaps they havent got a clue themselves?
 
Punt_Road_Roar said:
the alternative ticket are the ones living in the past, with their bunch of yesterdays heros and no real direction going forward into the future.

Sorry Robert its 2004 not 1974.

The past 3 months have been the most excited I have been about our club in over 10 years.

Casey's Ticket should remain on board and please no more scare tactics about the bleeding obvious last 5 years. I already know whats happened in the past.

I want to be shown some direction not a hole heap of scare mongering doom and gloom garbage and huff and puff slander tactics thanks.


You refer to scare mongering doom and gloom? Which of my facts listed is not correct and 'garbage'?
 
well it seems there big move is to sack miller and replace him with balme oh btw that seemingly took place last august so for 4 months they being saying miller safe mmmmmmmm honesty seems lacking ,if weaver is pahoff he can comfirm it as he is honest is that not so phantom
 
Yep im voting for casey too. Greg miller is too much of a risk to let go and i still think we are 2 years off recruiting to have a good successfull list. I am willing to let casey stay on now that we have a fresh start with wallace and all teh new draft picks i think we are going to be better off.

My 2 cents.
 

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First of all Weaver is NOT Pahoff.

The gloom and doom comments about our finances are just that. If we again projected and budgeted for significant and unrealistic income increases like we did this time last year then yes I would agree we'd be in trouble but thankfully we are not. Read the projected 2005 figures in the annual report. They are conservative estimates (hooray!). They are also in line with actual 2003 and 2004 returns not figures of fantasy like the 2004 estimates. For example the estimated 2005 membership income is equal to what we actually got this year although we are already 10% ahead of last year's figures even though 2005 membership drive began 3 weeks later than in 2004. If the pro-alternative don't want to give credit to Casey for this then at least give the new CEO Steven Wright his dues for the past 3-4 months.

We are projecting a $200K loss next year but as these budget estimates for 2005 are on the conservative side we could very well break even or score a small profit if we perform better in the various areas of the Club. The difference now is we won't be relying on these better than expected performances to balance the books. Any increases if and only if they occur will be treated as a bonus.
 
Captain_Brown_7 said:
After reading all of the SOTR, i am now even more likely to vote for Casey. Miller has jumped on board the Casey ticket because he believe Casey would do a better job than the Macek run ticket. If Casey fukced up that bad, can just imagine how much worse Macek would be.

Browny, I am rendered speechless by your logic.
 
right at this moment in time - casey - the opposition maybe okay for the future - if they are that committed they'll try again later - wallace and mller must be supported
 
Just bring on the election


I say most people have a strong idea who they want to vote for by now

all we are doing is bringing up the same pro's and cons


getting quite boring now.


lets all return to talking up what our young players are doing at training and the like.
 
mighty tiges said:
First of all Weaver is NOT Pahoff.

The gloom and doom comments about our finances are just that. If we again projected and budgeted for significant and unrealistic income increases like we did this time last year then yes I would agree we'd be in trouble but thankfully we are not. Read the projected 2005 figures in the annual report. They are conservative estimates (hooray!). They are also in line with actual 2003 and 2004 returns not figures of fantasy like the 2004 estimates. For example the estimated 2005 membership income is equal to what we actually got this year although we are already 10% ahead of last year's figures even though 2005 membership drive began 3 weeks later than in 2004. If the pro-alternative don't want to give credit to Casey for this then at least give the new CEO Steven Wright his dues for the past 3-4 months.

We are projecting a $200K loss next year but as these budget estimates for 2005 are on the conservative side we could very well break even or score a small profit if we perform better in the various areas of the Club. The difference now is we won't be relying on these better than expected performances to balance the books. Any increases if and only if they occur will be treated as a bonus.


Budgeting is one thing delivering is another, GM has already cost us money in the Zantuck fiasco. The Zantuck settlement would have been something along the lines of RFC picking up the difference between the minumum wage he is entering the draft on 60K and what he would have got at RFC, say 160 to 250K, even if the parties split the difference RFC are up for between 50 - 90 K. Assuming the bombers were willing to offer something closer to Zanners wage - lets say 130K at trade time together with PICK 30, Miller has already blown about 30 -35K out of the budget because of his ego and petty feud with Sheeds. Gee we are real lucky to have a hero like him around. Good luck if your bloke gets in and BTW start getting your bailing buckets ready!!
 
Punt_Road_Roar said:
Just bring on the election


I say most people have a strong idea who they want to vote for by now

all we are doing is bringing up the same pro's and cons


getting quite boring now.


lets all return to talking up what our young players are doing at training and the like.


Agreed.
 

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starkravenmad2 said:
well it seems there big move is to sack miller and replace him with balme oh btw that seemingly took place last august so for 4 months they being saying miller safe mmmmmmmm honesty seems lacking ,if weaver is pahoff he can comfirm it as he is honest is that not so phantom

First off the Balme stuff related to the football manager position filled by Paul Armstrong in mid-September. Balme was sounded out about that job BY THE CLUB.

No I am not pahoff. Many people know who I am, I have been posting under the same username for more than 10 years afterall.
 
corporal said:
So how exactly is the alternative group going to improve the finances? what are they going to do differently Weaver?

Budget conservatively. Ensure that departments don't overspend their budgets. Bring back the coterie members and sponsors who have been alienated by Casey. Remember $1.9m of the $2.2m loss is in those areas of the budget.
 
What did Casey do to alienate those members and sponsors Weaver ?
 
silence ofthe Robert said:
Budgeting is one thing delivering is another, GM has already cost us money in the Zantuck fiasco. The Zantuck settlement would have been something along the lines of RFC picking up the difference between the minumum wage he is entering the draft on 60K and what he would have got at RFC, say 160 to 250K, even if the parties split the difference RFC are up for between 50 - 90 K. Assuming the bombers were willing to offer something closer to Zanners wage - lets say 130K at trade time together with PICK 30, Miller has already blown about 30 -35K out of the budget because of his ego and petty feud with Sheeds. Gee we are real lucky to have a hero like him around. Good luck if your bloke gets in and BTW start getting your bailing buckets ready!!

Who knows what the trade week deal was in monetary terms. The bombers rocked up with only 2 minutes to go to the cut-off offering pick 30 for Zantuck and pick 36. Sheeds was up to his old tricks. Get a player for virtually nothing and keep his PSD pick. No other club traded with the Dons either.

I'm willing to cop the flack for backing Miller and co if they get up yet fail to deliver. Hope the pro-alternative supporters are willing do likewise if their folk get up yet fail again.
 

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