Jack Watts 2011 Prediction Thread

[Cudi_420]

Watts will improve.

And anyone that compares Jurrah to Franklin doesn't watch enough football. Their differences as players are obvious.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

That doesn't necessarily make his job any easier you imbecile. Please, just stop pretending like you actually believe Jacqui Watts will eventuate into anything close to a successful long-term KPF. I know even you Melbourne w***ers aren't that mentally deficient.

haha you really have no idea... does it not give him a SHITLOAD more OPPORTUNITY ?????

or is that not important??

according to this flog, you don't need opportunity to score goals...

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Comparing Jurranh to Franklin is madness. Completely different players. Actually the only similarity is that they are both Aboriginals.

I don't think any Dees supporters really expect next year to be Jack Watts breakout/best year. Certainly should improve, if he is going to be as good as they hope it will likely happen 2012-13 (also shoud coincide with Melbourne challenging for flags)

Also please stop comparing Naitanui's development with Watts, not similar in any way.

and they both have a bit of x-factor about them, but i agree completely different styles of player

no one expects a BIG year from him, but i certainly think a 25-35 goal season would be a reasonable expectation, and would be a good stepping stone for a 20 year old KPF, similar to the season nick riewoldt had at the same age (goal wise)

 

[pantskyle]

Yeah would agree both have an X-Factor about them.

25-35 goals for Jack Watts next year would be counted as a great year for him.
I love all the Watts jokes they genuinely make me laugh but i doubt there is much time left for them.

In 1-2 years time Dees v WCE Watts with Jurrah crumbing vs Darling with Lecras crumbing. Two very talented midfields going head to head.
I really feel sorry for the teams filled with old players.

 

[thecotch9]

realise that Watts has more talent in his pinky finger than your entire shithouse list.

HAHA yeah if you believe that comment then you obviously share an equal IQ with that of garden snail. At least post comments that contain an ounce of substance. I pity you.

 

[The Mighty Boosh]

Noticed the smarter trolls are leaving this subject alone now.

They know what's coming.

I feel truly sorry for Jill Watts.
She was a champion basketballer at Sandy and was destined for the WNBA.
I watched many of her games in her junior days. .....?

That doesn't necessarily make his job any easier you imbecile. Please, just stop pretending like you actually believe Jacqui Watts will eventuate into anything close to a successful long-term KPF. I know even you Melbourne w***ers aren't that mentally deficient.

PS: Cake is back bitches

With that the case for the defence rests, your honour.

 

[thecotch9]

haha you really have no idea... does it not give him a SHITLOAD more OPPORTUNITY ?????

or is that not important??

according to this flog, you don't need opportunity to score goals...

You Melbourne supporters aren't too bright. Either that or you just enjoy portraying yourselves to be morons. If you noticed in my comment I used the word 'necessarily'. Thus implying, along with receiving more opportunities, there was also a negative associated with being a team's sole influential KPF. We call that "a double edged sword". You still with me?
As Jack Riewoldt was Richmond's only KPF influencing games in 2010, he was often the subject of double and sometimes triple teaming by the opposition.
Your footballing knowledge is what I would call: below par my friend.

 

[WinmarToLockett]

As Jack Riewoldt was Richmond's only KPF influencing games in 2010, he was often the subject of double and sometimes triple teaming by the opposition.

Strangely enough, this didn't happen in any of the games Richmond actually won. You know, you'd probably be correct in saying Jack was Richmond's only player that influenced games in 2010, regardless of position.

By the way, it wasn't too bad watching Richmond get thrashed by Melbourne at the MCG last season. I'll be looking forward to watching Melbourne thrash Richmond again this year.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

You Melbourne supporters aren't too bright. Either that or you just enjoy portraying yourselves to be morons. If you noticed in my comment I used the word 'necessarily'. Thus implying, along with receiving more opportunities, there was also a negative associated with being a team's sole influential KPF. We call that "a double edged sword". You still with me?
As Jack Riewoldt was Richmond's only KPF influencing games in 2010, he was often the subject of double and sometimes triple teaming by the opposition.
Your footballing knowledge is what I would call: below par my friend.

ok, sure.... so while you originally disputed the "ease" of his job, saying the fact he was the main f50 target didn't make it easier... now you are trying to add receiving opportunities as a factor which increases the ease of his role????

COOL STORY BRO

plus im not your friend, buddy.

 

[KeilorUnder9s]

Strangely enough, this didn't happen in any of the games Richmond actually won. You know, you'd probably be correct in saying Jack was Richmond's only player that influenced games in 2010, regardless of position.

By the way, it wasn't too bad watching Richmond get thrashed by Melbourne at the MCG last season. I'll be looking forward to watching Melbourne thrash Richmond again this year.

Yep you guys surely are a great powerhouse of the modern era. Can we talk about how you almost beat Collingwood twice, and how that means you almost won the premiership?

 

[tenacious d]

Yep you guys surely are a great powerhouse of the modern era. Can we talk about how you almost beat Collingwood twice, and how that means you almost won the premiership?

Noone claimed we're a powerhouse of the comp but I'd take our last 20 years of not much over your last 20 years of abject pitiful failure. Shitmond are clearly the biggest laughing stock of the modern era. Even Freo look good good compared to you lot.

 

[Shawt]

Jack Watts will make steady progress this year.

If he does happen to have the odd bad game, his saving grace is that there won't be that many supporters there to see it anyway

 

[KeilorUnder9s]

Noone claimed we're a powerhouse of the comp but I'd take our last 20 years of not much over your last 20 years of abject pitiful failure. Shitmond are clearly the biggest laughing stock of the modern era. Even Freo look good good compared to you lot.

Hold your horses there bud, I was just trying to get into the delsuional headspace of a Melbourne Supporter.. Since we are talking periods of bad performance can you please remind me when your far superior well followed club last won a premiership

 

[WinmarToLockett]

Since we are talking periods of bad performance can you please remind me when your far superior well followed club last won a premiership

We weren't actually talking about this, but I can see why you would like to- Richmond is unrivaled in shit performances so far this century. Shit games, shit draft choices, shit trades, shit coaches, you've had all of it. Hope you've enjoyed it, as there is absolutely no doubt you have a lot more of it to come

 

[PieBeast]

WinmarToLocket, what an interesting name for a Demons supporter.

 

[Bender_]

We weren't actually talking about this, but I can see why you would like to- Richmond is unrivaled in shit performances so far this century. Shit games, shit draft choices, shit trades, shit coaches, you've had all of it. Hope you've enjoyed it, as there is absolutely no doubt you have a lot more of it to come

Why stop at this century?

 

[KeilorUnder9s]

We weren't actually talking about this, but I can see why you would like to- Richmond is unrivaled in shit performances so far this century. Shit games, shit draft choices, shit trades, shit coaches, you've had all of it. Hope you've enjoyed it, as there is absolutely no doubt you have a lot more of it to come

Sorry brah but any thread discussing Ms J Watts is infact a discussion of poor performance

 

[richoatthedisco]

at the same age... Watts averaged 6 more disposals, more marks, more goal assists... but .2 less goals... he also played 7 more games in the corresponding season of age.... (ie. last season for watts and 07 for riewoldt)

even when compared with riewoldt a year older watts averages 2 more diposals, .3 less goals, more goal assists and almost equal marks

You're being a bit mischievous here. Jack Watts in 2010 was seven months older than Jack Riewoldt was in 2007, so a closer (still not ideal) comparison would be between Watts 2010 and Riewoldt 2008. Watts 15 games, 10 goals, average 12.6 disposals, 4.7 marks and 1.0 tackles; Riewoldt 18 games, 18 goals (including one bag of five), average 10.8 disposals, 4.8 marks and 2.1 tackles. That improved in 2009 to 20 games, 32 goals (bag of six against Essendon, his bitches), 12.9 disposals, 6.4 marks and 2.4 tackles, so there's something for Watts to aim at. Our Jack also kicked several bags of five and six goals in the VFL across his first three seasons (pretty sure he kicked at least three in every one of his three or four VFL games in 2008, and 11 in two games in 09), following on from a few bags as a 17-year-old for Tassie's VFL team prior to being drafted. Serious question: what is Watts' best goal haul at VFL level?

Watts has more talent in his pinky finger than your entire shithouse list.

Except for Riewoldt, Deledio, Cotchin, Martin, Morton, Connors, Taylor and Griffiths, who all have as much talent as Watts, or more. Watts has talent, the question marks remain over his heart. Jack Riewoldt has the heart of a champion. We're yet to see whether Watts has, but it's early days.

And anyone that compares Jurrah to Franklin doesn't watch enough football. Their differences as players are obvious.

Yeah, Jurrah can mark overhead, and Buddy is the most dangerous player in the league.

In 1-2 years time Dees v WCE Watts with Jurrah crumbing vs Darling with Lecras crumbing. Two very talented midfields going head to head.
I really feel sorry for the teams filled with old players.

I feel sorry for people who think West Coast has a talented young midfield. Melbourne will wipe the floor with your mob and they won't be the only ones.

As for Watts I don't think he'll ever be a massive goal kicker. He'll be a lead-up type player whose real skill will be in getting the ball to the next bloke in the chain. His kicking to position is very good and playing the lead-up role will allow him to use his pace and mobility. He doesn't 'play quick' at the moment, except maybe on the lead, but surely this will come into play as he grows into himself. But I'm yet to be convinced of his contested marking ability. Or his heart. But as I said, early days. I'm not going to write him off, but in no way do I think his ascension to football god is a fait accompli. Ability only takes you so far; all champions have the heart no matter what their innate talent. I wouldn't be placing huge expectations on Watts this year, just hope he improves and that you see glimpses of the future. As others have said, from 2012-13 onwards is when we will see if he has what it takes. Either Riewoldt would be a good role model for him.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

. Serious question: what is Watts' best goal haul at VFL level?

Except for Riewoldt, Deledio, Cotchin, Martin, Morton, Connors, Taylor and Griffiths, who all have as much talent as Watts, or more. Watts has talent, the question marks remain over his heart. Jack Riewoldt has the heart of a champion. We're yet to see whether Watts has, but it's early days.
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i don't understand how that is mischevious? watts was 19 that year, jack riewoldt was 19 that year they both had very similar weight and build.... watts outperformed him, fairly significantly

if you have the audacity to think that morton, connors, taylor and griffiths possess anywhere near the amount of talent that Watts has... you are delusional. plain and simple. deledio and riewoldt have already shown their talent... cotchin is largely unproven (due mainly to injury set backs), martin while having a good start is unproven... watts is unproven and we have yet to see his real talent

i'd still argue that watts has a higher ceiling than any player i bolded, including martin

 

[KeilorUnder9s]

i don't understand how that is mischevious? watts was 19 that year, jack riewoldt was 19 that year they both had very similar weight and build.... watts outperformed him, fairly significantly

if you have the audacity to think that morton, connors, taylor and griffiths possess anywhere near the amount of talent that Watts has... you are delusional. plain and simple. deledio and riewoldt have already shown their talent... cotchin is largely unproven (due mainly to injury set backs), martin while having a good start is unproven... watts is unproven and we have yet to see his real talent

i'd still argue that watts has a higher ceiling than any player i bolded, including martin

Did you ever consider even just for one fleeting moment that it is you who is delusional? Serious question I'm not sledging.

 

[richoatthedisco]

i don't understand how that is mischevious? watts was 19 that year, jack riewoldt was 19 that year they both had very similar weight and build.... watts outperformed him, fairly significantly

I just told you how it was mischievous: Watts turned 19 in March 2010, Riewoldt not until October 2007. So Watts played the entire year as a 19-year-old, and Riewoldt as an 18-year-old. More precisely, as I already stated, Watts was seven months older in 2010 than Riewoldt was in any equivalent round in 2007. In 2008, Riewoldt was five months older than Watts was at the same stage of 2010. Not that difficult to understand I would have thought.

Now, what's Watts' biggest bag in the VFL?

if you have the audacity to think that morton, connors, taylor and griffiths possess anywhere near the amount of talent that Watts has... you are delusional. plain and simple. deledio and riewoldt have already shown their talent... cotchin is largely unproven (due mainly to injury set backs), martin while having a good start is unproven... watts is unproven and we have yet to see his real talent

i'd still argue that watts has a higher ceiling than any player i bolded, including martin

Hilarious. Sorry, I thought we were having a serious football discussion, but it turns out you just want a fap session. All the players I mentioned have talent I would consider in the top 10-20% in the AFL. Whether they will all reach their potential is another matter, as it is for Watts. Martin and Cotchin are not unproven - they have proved they can take an AFL match by the scruff of the neck, they have proved they can take on and beat the best. I'd argue that if Watts gets anywhere near what Jack Riewoldt has already produced you should be very happy.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Did you ever consider even just for one fleeting moment that it is you who is delusional? Serious question I'm not sledging.

to the polls board

 

[pantskyle]

It will be a cold day in hell when a Richmond supporter will be taken seriously. The biggest hackjob team in the league. Come back when you play some finals footy.

At the moment you are the doorstop.

 

[The Bomb]

I am so glad Essendon got Hurley.

regarding Watts I still think he could average more pos then what he will get in goals for the season in 2011, just think he is not the real dangerous type of forward, he will run and so often get cheap pos around half forward and wing, and leave the hard work for Green and Jurrah.
that is what I think with what I have seen of him.

question to you melbourne supporters, How many poss around Half forward / wing are worth 5 marks 30m out?

 

[Dennis]

So with Jack getting another season under his belt he must be ready to explode like all the Melbourne flogs keep telling us he will.

I predict he will average 7 disposals a game and will probably end the season on 10-15 goals, I really can't see a spud like him doing much more than that

He will probably play the first 6-7 rounds then get dropped due to bad form and get some games later in the season.

I am not expecting much from him at all, I expect to see Naitanui make the Melbourne drafting people look even more foolish next year as well.

So how do you think he will go?