Jacqui Lambie Watch

[Johnny Bananas]

Feels a bit One Nation goes south.

Lambie used to engage in Islamophobia and refugee bashing, but seems to have walked it back since then and stopped all that rhetoric. She did manage to get Scummo to agree to NZs offer to resettle some of the refugees on Manus Island a few years ago. I think she's not perfect, but nowhere near as bad as One Nation.

I kinda hope she goes to state politics. She'd be better there, where it's closer to local concerns, and has nothing to do with foreign policy or refugees.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Lambie used to engage in Islamophobia and refugee bashing, but seems to have walked it back since then and stopped all that rhetoric. She did manage to get Scummo to agree to NZs offer to resettle some of the refugees on Manus Island a few years ago. I think she's not perfect, but nowhere near as bad as One Nation.

I kinda hope she goes to state politics. She'd be better there, where it's closer to local concerns, and has nothing to do with foreign policy or refugees.

Weighed against Hanson, Roberts, Bernardi, Christensen, Palmer, she's miles ahead. She's a bit rough around the edges, but has empathy, negotiating skills and some sort of moral compass. Not perfect by a long shot, but as close to a genuine representative of our society as virtually anyone else in federal politics.

Would I vote for her party directly if they ran in my regional Vic seat? Not likely, but would preference them ahead of many other fringe and even some mainstream groups.

 

[Chief]

Weighed against Hanson, Roberts, Bernardi, Christensen, Palmer, she's miles ahead.

Oh yeah absolutely.

 

[Dirty_banchez]

But she already has one. It's called the Jacqui Lambie Network.

Well there you go. I just hope the party is vetting candidates.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Oh yeah absolutely.

Low bar, I know. ☹

 

[Chief]

I thought it would be mean of me to add that.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Well there you go. I just hope the party is vetting candidates.

She should vet them all herself - if there's one thing I reckon she's good at is identifying self-aggrandising w4nkers.

 

[Number37]

Jacqui's a different kettle of fish to Clive Palmer, I think. PUP were definitely 'fringe' and happier to go the negative attack advertising than any other political party I've seen in Australia. And so the popularity just wasn't there when it counted. I don't know if Ms Lambie would stoop to that kind of nonsense.

Damn, I need to pay more attention!

Campaigns I am fighting for | Jacqui Lambie Network

There is no 'she'll be right' going on here. I aim to get things done on issues that matter. Let's be real. For most people, politics doesn't matter. Results do.

lambienetwork.com.au

As Jacqui is former military I expected a bit of advocacy for ex-service members. Especially PTSD and veteran suicide. It's there and it needs to be.

I like the 'Make Australia make again' bit to get manufacturing back on line here. I thought Covid exposed BIG TIME just how dependent we are on supply chains we have no control over. Something need to be done about that.

While I like transparency on political donations there's a bit too much 'Yellow Peril' in the way that 'Fight Foreign Interference' section is written up.

Health care IS more important than stadiums.

There's nothing about the Jacqui Lambie Network's campaigns I would object to. I suspect she'd strike a chord with a lot of people sick of the ol' two-step we all dance come election time. Right now Jacqui's just focussed on Tasmania with one other candidate under the banner but she definitely has scope to expand operations to the other states and territories.

She is just another LNP-er cosplaying as an indpendent.

 

[Carringbush2010]

There's nothing about the Jacqui Lambie Network's campaigns I would object to

Reckon there might be more than a few on here who'll take issue with standing up for veterans though.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Reckon there might be more than a few on here who'll take issue with standing up for veterans though.

I thought she was more focused on veteran health/ wellbeing during and after service, pay rates and ptsd issues which are less controversial.

It’s interesting to see how far she has come from reading this thread from the start.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I thought she was more focused on veteran health/ wellbeing during and after service, pay rates and ptsd issues which are less controversial.

It’s interesting to see how far she has come from reading this thread from the start.

Agreed, none the less there'll be some in here who are anti veterans.

 

[Chief]

Agreed, none the less there'll be some in here who are anti veterans.

Who? And why would they?

 

[Carringbush2010]

Who? And why would they?

I'm not gonna name and shame Chief.

However if you don't believe there is a sentiment of anti veterans on these boards then you're being naive.

 

[Chief]

I've never seen this. What form has it taken? Without naming names, of course.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I've never seen this. What form has it taken? Without naming names, of course.

Without going back and digging them up, I've seen the word veterans (like wwII and vietnam) used in negative lights.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Reckon there might be more than a few on here who'll take issue with standing up for veterans though.

We as a nation have always been either clinging to the skirts of Empire or the trouser cuffs of Uncle Sam so as a result I've been anti every war Australia's been in except WW2 (the soldiers who served in Timor did a great job but that campaign is unfortunately sullied by the resource theft that went on in tandem).

However I think everyone who's fought or been mobilised for the nation should get looked after by the government who sends them. It's not a validation of war itself, more a recognition that these aren't toy soldiers to be played with then cast aside but real, breakable human beings no different to the suits who placed them in harm's way in the first place.

 

[Number37]

We as a nation have always been either clinging to the skirts of Empire or the trouser cuffs of Uncle Sam so as a result I've been anti every war Australia's been in except WW2 (the soldiers who served in Timor did a great job but that campaign is unfortunately sullied by the resource theft that went on in tandem).

However I think everyone who's fought or been mobilised for the nation should get looked after by the government who sends them. It's not a validation of war itself, more a recognition that these aren't toy soldiers to be played with then cast aside but real, breakable human beings no different to the suits who placed them in harm's way in the first place.

I've never heard anyone blame soldiers for them being sent to war.
100% of people understand that it is not their choice to go to war and that they are mere pawns.

 

[Crankyhawk]

I've never heard anyone blame soldiers for them being sent to war.
100% of people understand that it is not their choice to go to war and that they are mere pawns.

well in a not australian example, I do engage in the practice of calling Russian soldiers orcs in Ukraine. Part of that is due to reported war crime behaviours.
I am derogatory towards most invading soldiers absent a UN mandate for intervention

 

[Number37]

well in a not australian example, I do engage in the practice of calling Russian soldiers orcs in Ukraine. Part of that is due to reported war crime behaviours.
I am derogatory towards most invading soldiers absent a UN mandate for intervention

The idea of killing people appeals to some, so naturally those types would gravitate towards the defence forces.
The defence forces provide an opportunity for them to live out their fantasy, but it is still not their choice to go to war.

 

[Crankyhawk]

The idea of killing people appeals to some, so naturally those types would gravitate towards the defence forces.
The defence forces provide an opportunity for them to live out their fantasy, but it is still not their choice to go to war.

It’s the associated behaviours that I condemn. Shooting enemy combatants fair. Rape, pillage arson no.

 

[Number37]

It’s the associated behaviours that I condemn. Shooting enemy combatants fair. Rape, pillage arson no.

The claim was a general animosity towards some soldiers just because they were soldiers??

 

[Gough]

Being "anti veteran" sounds like one of those barely existing things that right wingers like to jump onto to virtue signal.

 

[Crankyhawk]

The claim was a general animosity towards some soldiers just because they were soldiers??

I think the claim was potential animosity towards Australian soldiers, then your response seemed to me to be "no one blames soldiers" which lost the Australian specific focus, so I gave my example of orcs
also people on BF have (rightfully and reasonably) turned on individual australian soldiers when conduct is unbecoming/ excessive.

 

[Number37]

I think the claim was potential animosity towards Australian soldiers, then your response seemed to me to be "no one blames soldiers" which lost the Australian specific focus, so I gave my example of orcs
also people on BF have (rightfully and reasonably) turned on individual australian soldiers when conduct is unbecoming/ excessive

'No one blames soldiers' for soldiers going to war.
Which is separate to soldiers doing sh!tty things in war and people turning on individual soldiers for doing sh!tty things.